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the fall

  1. TedT

    PCE: How can anyone reject Him?!?

    This question forces me to conclude that no one who had experienced or was living/basking in the GLORY of GOD could/would ever rebel against HIM...forcing the first step in the fall to being a rebellion against HIS CLAIMS to be our Creator GOD and our only Saviour from sin. Not until we all saw...
  2. TedT

    The difference between our creation and our conception.

    Nope; they are both sinless and sinful before redemption at different times. I believe that sin can only be adjudicated for the free will decision to sin, NOT by putting anyone into Adam's sin. That's not hard to grasp, eh? I don't say infants are not sinners like some; I say they do not get...
  3. S

    Dawkins Evolution vs God - (Both Win)

    In early 1970's, I attended Richard Dawkins presentation on Darwin's Evolution in England. Dawkins was using his famous computer simulation of the progression of Natural selection that build the "bat" shape. To do this, he had a 3x3 grid with the progressing shape in the middle and he chose an...
  4. Bible Highlighter

    Where was Adam, & or what was he doing while Eve was tempted?

    Where was Adam, & or what was he doing while Eve was tempted? Behold the scene: Genesis 3: (King James 2000) v. 1 "Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And... he [the Serpent] said unto the woman, "Yea, has God said, 'you shall not eat...
  5. Not David

    The Fall (questions)

    I have been thinking ( I do that a lot ), and I have questions: Would Adam had another opportunity to fall if he hadn't eaten from the Tree? I heard if Adam and Eve had repented, God would had restituted them, why would that be the case of they acquired a fallen nature? I read that the...
  6. S

    Only evolutionist Lutherans

    I'm posting here instead of posting on the forum "Creation and Theistic Evolution" because I want to hear an opinion from Lutherans who accept TOE.I don't know if this discussion will yield any answer, because it seems that there aren't many active Lutherans here in the CF who are Evolutionist...
  7. Not David

    Did God predestine the Fall?

    For those who believe in God predestine events, was the Fall one of them?
  8. A

    Question about the fall of man

    hey I've been thinking about this for awhile I need some input. When God created the universe he said everything was good. After Adam and Eve sinned then death and sin entered the world. So I'm wondering, before that did lions have to hunt? We're there mosquitoes who fed off of them? We're...
  9. J

    Calvinist Meaning of Corruption of Human Nature

    I understand the reformed doctrine of total depravity to be that the human nature is such that it is utterly unable to choose to follow God. Another way I've heard it put is that men are by nature inclined to reject God. Further, I've heard it said that the way human nature became like this was...
  10. createdtoworship

    you will be judged even if decieved

    For a long time I believed God will never judge those who don't know about him. but given the law of nature* innate in our mental instincts. Even if we are deceived it appears God will still judge* us. source: (adam and eve being deceived still rejected from the garden). so this motive that...
  11. Radrook

    The Fall From Grace involved just the Eating Fruit?

    That is a statement that was recently made in a discussion concerning the importance of accepting the Genesis account as actual historical fact. I think that the following reply is very important in furthering a Christian understanding of the issues that emerged in during that Edenic event...
  12. Radrook

    Why Acceptance of the Genesis Account is Extremely Important For Christians

    Rejection of the Genesis account as mere myth strikes at the very heart of Christianity for the following reasons. 1. Jesus himself is described as lending it historical credence 2. Peter. Paul, Jude, Luke, Mathew, John, specifically lend it historical credence 3. It removes the basis for the...