schism

  1. The Liturgist

    UMC Conference Fires Pastor of Congregation Seeking to Disaffiliate

    https://juicyecumenism.com/2023/03/31/new-town-churchs-open-letter-to-united-methodists/ The one upshot of this is that the former parish has no longer had to pay the nearly $600,000 fee the liberal bishops demanded as the price of departure, despite the fact that they are the ones in violation...
  2. The Liturgist

    Liturgical Reform and Alienation, and Other Interesting Things

    Your post made me reflect on the interesting fact that in the history of the Christian church, in the past four centuries, the forcible implementation of a new liturgy substantially, or in some cases, only slightly, different from the old one, has produced some fairly spectacular schisms. The...
  3. The Liturgist

    Should the UMC Schism Happen?

    For those of you who don’t know, leaders in the UMC have been planning a schism as a way around the traditionalist coalition of nearly all African, and a plurality American parishes that adhere to Biblical Christian doctrine on human sexuality, and which at every General Conference since 1972...
  4. mindlight

    Dogmatism, Heretics and Schism

    I am trying to understand the theological controversies that led to the Church of the East and Oriental Orthodox churches splitting from the Roman church. These schisms seem enormously important in the history of the church and indeed the world. From the Nestorian controversy ultimately came the...
  5. dzheremi

    OO/EO discussion (not debate): Is it a good thing that we show up in each others' churches?

    Note: Even though I already put it in the thread title, I want to reiterate that I'm posting this in St. Basil the Great's Hall, not St. Justin's, because I don't see any need that this turn into a debate. I don't want one. (This is also why I didn't put it in the general forum.) It's a pretty...
  6. Not David

    Ukrainian Schismatics Ask To Serve New Calendar Nativity To Separate From “Aggressor Russia”

    *You are in the Orthodox Forum* *Not intended for aggressive debate, if your argument is "Russia bad", I will just ignore you* “Metropolitan” Mikhail Zinkevich of Lutsk and Volyn of the schismatic “Orthodox Church of Ukraine” has expressed his support for a group of Lutsk activists who asked a...
  7. Pavel Mosko

    Legacy of Ben Lomond Crisis

    I was curious about what lasting legacy the Ben Lomond Crisis has had. I have some personal interest in that because that church was in my parents backyard so to speak. It was the first Orthodox (or Eastern Church of any kind) that I ever attended. I actually thought seriously about...
  8. Not David

    What's worse: heresy or schism?

    James McCord said: "If you must make a choice between heresy and schism, always choose heresy. As a schismatic, you have torn and divided the body of Christ. Choose heresy every time."
  9. Varangian Christian

    What should a new convert know about the potential schism?

    I have been trying to make myself familiar with all things Orthodox, not just theological but modern issues as well, and in doing so I came across the problem brewing in the Church over Ukraine and the Patriarch of Constantinople which seems to paint certain branches of the Church as...
  10. JasonV

    UAOC, UOC-KP - The fist fighting has begun.

    Former UAOC parish switches to UOC-KP, UAOC hierarch shows up and condemns priest, and a fight ensues. Fight breaks out in church after Ukrainian parish moves from one Constantinople jurisdiction to the other (+ VIDEOS)
  11. joinfree

    Please prove, that Eastern Orthodox Christians are schismatics

    - Please prove, that Eastern Orthodox Christians are schismatics. - Is this the first time that there is a discussion between Catholics and Orthodox? - I asked not for discussion, but for Scientific Theological PROOF. Is there one? - Yeah, and there is going to be people who are not going to...
  12. Nick Moser

    Unification: Updated

    +Sample version of the Shorter Catechism+ ~ Introduction Q . WHAT should be the chief concern of man? A. Man's chief concern should be to seek after the Kingdom of God and his righteousness. Matt. 6:33, Matt. 16:26. Q. How do we obtain righteousness? A. We obtain righteousness through faith in...
  13. Nick Moser

    Unification

    If possible, what would a unified Christian church look like? Would be the polity of the church be based on a council of bishops? Will one bishop have primacy over the other bishops? What would be the theology of that church? Lastly what Christian liturgy would follow(perhaps theByzantine Rite)...
  14. Fish and Bread

    Burke Casts Himself as Saintly and Francis as a Heretic in a Sermon to SSPX Members

    Link: Cardinal Burke extols saint who condemned heretic bishop Cardinal Burke is out of control. Never before has the phrase "Pride goeth before the fall" seemed so aptly applied to a Cardinal. How long do you think it's going to be before this guy becomes an out and out Anti-Pope or...
  15. Martinius

    Heretics now welcome!

    A change was made in December to the rules of both the TLT and SOTE forums to allow for threads that disagree with the teachings or positions of the Church. Here is how it reads in the Statement of Purpose: "This area allows for what would normally be considered by Rome dissent from the...
  16. Sophia89

    Seems like UOC-KP has "exarchates" around the world...

    Yesterday I came across an article from which I've learned of existence of the "Orthodox Diocese of Paris and All France" in the so-called Ukrainian Orthodox Church – Kievan Patriarchate (UOC-KP). And it seems like UOC-KP appeared to have much more unknown things for me in behind. For example...
  17. Daniel Bodnar

    Montenegrin schismatics intensified their activity after the Djukanovic's party victory

    Contrary to the Serbian Orthodox Church Metropolitan of Montenegro and the Littoral Amfilohije, whom we all remember as stressing the unacceptability of state interference in church affairs, disgowned "Archbishop" Michael (secular Miras Dedeic) is once again trying to put religion in the service...