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    GOD CREATED EVIL, Period!

    Peace to you...:hug: You say "GOD CREATED EVIL, Period!" as if you are absolutely sure of such a statement being fact...your "facts" and "evidence" provided leave much to be desired as proof of what you say... Confusion comes with not having a good understanding of the Word of God which...
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    What if I am not strong enough????

    Oh yeah...:thumbsup: Missed this post somehow... Exactly what I meant...but you said it in a much simpler and clearer way for all to see... Ha, "gracechick" fits you quite well...I would say!!! Let's all PAY ATTENTION to what the lady has said here... OK?...OK!:clap: thank you for the...
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    What if I am not strong enough????

    Hey guys...I just realized what we are doing with this discussion... That I'm afraid I started...with my little tirade... I am sorry to all but especially to Katrina... We are putting Katrina through the same thing that upset her in the first place...the first post I read of hers was...
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    What if I am not strong enough????

    Good bye bad post...
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    What if I am not strong enough????

    Peace to you sister Katrina...:wave: In the few days, I think, since you began to focus on your doubts and fears brought out by hearing that what you have believed for so long... and have been taught to you for so long even up to this day...about the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine...is maybe...
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    Pray for this Forum. (2)

    Peace to you sister Helen, :groupray: We pray dear Lord in your will that Helen receives through your love and grace the results needed to initiate immediate action by her doctors to give to her the hip replacement operation she so desires...and that you touch her with a quick and easy time...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Peace to you sister Katrina...:hug: Our love of God usually wavers because of not having a good understanding of the Word and the influence of evil pouncing when any weakness in our faith is seen! It is understandable that through the flesh we have our own desires to contend with...but, what...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    ORIGINALLY POSTED BY YEDIDA... Peace to you my friend... To RC and Manesseh: don't forget June 6-7, 1967, when Jerusalem was placed back into Jewish hands!!! Glad you mentioned that...first time on the thread I believe... This fact is also "A VERY IMPORTANT" sign of the end times...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Peace to you brother Manasseh...:hug: I stand corrected...being a westerner it is easy for me to make a mistake like this in my wording and understanding of the different tribes involved... Jeremiah 30:9; *But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Peace to you again my friend, Understood! :cool: It is well and good for you to say "I'm happy to leave it all at the "we'll see" stage because it is impossible for you to be deceived by this man. We don't have anything to worry about when it comes to the a/c... Me, because I recognize...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Peace to you friend mine...:) I did not mean to be arguing with you...per se...I think you have misunderstood what I was getting at...I do not believe what pre-tribbers believe at all...so I am surely not forcing their belief that defies all scripture to be scriptural in any way...the whole...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Deleted everything...fonts...structure...everthing was a mess!
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Peace to you... :wave:Hello my dear friend...:hug: I'm gonna take the bait and see where the line pulls me... The pre-tribbers never have believed he was ever here in the past and don't look for him to come now or anytime before they are raptured. First sign of the biblical end times: Jews...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Peace to you brother Choose Wisely... I reckon we will just continue to agree to disagree...huh... Ha, I did think...watch out, everybody duck...what was in my post was "pretty straight forward stuff" too... Well, as we see, it seems to be standard procedure for any of us to not be swayed by...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Peace to you... I will continue this debate so we all may, hopefully, come to understand this truth...even though it is not a salvation issue...as is the "OP" of this thread! ...1 Thessalonians 4:16; "and the trump (G4536; a trumpet) of God"... This is speaking of a trumpet given to a angel...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Peace to you... No Choose Wisely, #1...Your example verses all speak of "VOICE OF" the trumpet, a "GREAT VOICE", as of a trumpet and "THE FIRST VOICE" which I heard was as it were a trumpet talking with me; You are right..these verses are of God the Father or His Son Jesus Christ speaking...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Originally posted by B1inHim... We KNOW that it is Lord Jesus here. BUT we don’t know that it is the Lord for sure here…??? COME ON. Peace to you... Who are you talking about that doesn't know it is the Lord in Rev.1:13? If it is supposedly me...please read what I said...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Peace to you... I edited this post because of my not paying enough attention to the last comment above...and I was rattling on about unnecessay things... I have considered what you have presented...I just do not agree...because of, for example, what is to follow... You are right about the...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    Peace to you... EXCELLENT OBSERVATION...:clap: CAN NOT DENY that this is what has been said in both verses as translated... WE KNOW, as you said, that Revelation 1 is talking about Jesus!... "LIKE", is also used without the "unto" in Daniel 7:13 Believe it or not...about an hour before...
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    Do we want to 'be taken' or 'left behind'?

    OOPS...sure don't know what I did to post this... Was not ready yet by any means... Good-bye post...