What if I am not strong enough????

[KatrinaC]

I have been reading the threads the last few days about being left behind or taken, there is no rapture, we'll be raptured in the spring, etc. and one thing keeps sticking out to me:

What if there is no rapture, we're all left behind to make it through the tribulation, and I am not strong enough to battle the forces of evil in God's army????

I had such un-shakable faith as a child and a teenager and it wasn't until here recently that I have begun a walk again with Jesus, but I am still so unsure of many things

What if my faith never becomes strong enough? I feel so lost right now - like I said before, everything I came to know and am still being taught today may or may not be true.

How do I go against what I have thought was of God? What if I fail during the tribulation and am not brave enough when faced with true evil?

I know...it sounds like a rant of a crazy woman - I am not though, just a little freaked out and still trying to find myself.

Kat

 

[Charles Spurgeon]

If you're truly saved, you'll be fine... if you aren't truly saved though...

 

[LovedofHim]

I have been reading the threads the last few days about being left behind or taken, there is no rapture, we'll be raptured in the spring, etc. and one thing keeps sticking out to me:

What if there is no rapture, we're all left behind to make it through the tribulation, and I am not strong enough to battle the forces of evil in God's army????

I had such un-shakable faith as a child and a teenager and it wasn't until here recently that I have begun a walk again with Jesus, but I am still so unsure of many things

What if my faith never becomes strong enough? I feel so lost right now - like I said before, everything I came to know and am still being taught today may or may not be true.

How do I go against what I have thought was of God? What if I fail during the tribulation and am not brave enough when faced with true evil?

I know...it sounds like a rant of a crazy woman - I am not though, just a little freaked out and still trying to find myself.

Kat

Every Christian has endured tribulation. It is the wrath that we are not appointed to suffer (which includes the antichrist).

Act 14:22Confirming the souls of the disciples, [and] exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

1Th 5:9For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1Pe 1:5who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.


Hbr 9:28so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.


The antichrist is not empowered until the devil is cast down. The devil is cast down when the church is caught up. This is written in Revelation 12 and 13.

Aside from that, in order to enter the Kingdom of God, you must be born again of the Spirit of God.

Jhn 3:3In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.

Since you are unsure of your salvation, the one thing you need to do more than anything else right now is seek the Lord and ask Him for the Holy Spirit.

Luk 11:13If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"

The Holy Spirit inside of us is the deposit GUARANTEEING what is to come. It is our "engagement ring" of sorts. It is the one thing you can have/feel and KNOW beyond doubt where you stand with God.

2Cr 5:5Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.


Eph 1:13And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
Eph 1:14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession—to the praise of his glory.


There is no doubt of salvation in those with the Spirit of God. Ask Him for it.

 

[KatrinaC]

Oh I've ask for salvation....how can I be sure I have it though?

 

[Choose Wisely]

I have been reading the threads the last few days about being left behind or taken, there is no rapture, we'll be raptured in the spring, etc. and one thing keeps sticking out to me:

What if there is no rapture, we're all left behind to make it through the tribulation, and I am not strong enough to battle the forces of evil in God's army????

I had such un-shakable faith as a child and a teenager and it wasn't until here recently that I have begun a walk again with Jesus, but I am still so unsure of many things

What if my faith never becomes strong enough? I feel so lost right now - like I said before, everything I came to know and am still being taught today may or may not be true.

How do I go against what I have thought was of God? What if I fail during the tribulation and am not brave enough when faced with true evil?

I know...it sounds like a rant of a crazy woman - I am not though, just a little freaked out and still trying to find myself.

Kat

"It is Finished"

You don't need to find yourself. All you need to do is spend time with God. By spending time with Him and reading His Word your faith will grow strong.

There is no doubt that He is, look at the prophecies. And there will be a Rapture.

 

[Super Kal]

its not about finding yourself, Kat... it's about finding who you are in Christ, & building a relationship with Him, a relationship of holiness and obedience, but founded in grace & love.

dont fear what lies ahead. Know that God loves you, & whatever He has in store for you, He will prepare you, & transform you into the woman of God He wants you to be.

He has plans for you.
love Him, seek Him, acknowledge Him, and He will direct your path

 

[HarryCovert]

My God, I thought Catholic guilt was bad enough, but this? Feelings of guilt over literally nothing! For God's sake, focus your time and your talent on serving Him. Love with all the love in your heart. You do that, and you won't care one bit whether your "raptured" or not. If anything, you'll welcome tribulation.

 

[supersoldier71]

Review some of the prophets, and take a quick look at Jesus' twelve. These were ordinary men, called by God, but also empowered by Him to do His will, for His glory. Remember, that He WILL get His glory, and the fact that you're concerned with pleasing Him is a strong indicator that you are His.

If you are His, He will manifest His power and glory through you:

"When you are brought before synagogues, rulers and authorities, do not worry about how you will defend yourselves or what you will say,</SPAN> for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that time what you should say.&#8221;</SPAN>

 

[KatrinaC]

My God, I thought Catholic guilt was bad enough, but this? Feelings of guilt over literally nothing! For God's sake, focus your time and your talent on serving Him. Love with all the love in your heart. You do that, and you won't care one bit whether your "raptured" or not. If anything, you'll welcome tribulation.

It's not guilt, it's concern that while there will be so many strong, loving Christians around me in the trib, duking it out with the forces of evil, I'll be the scared little sheep in the corner with nothing to offer.......

 

[NightHawkeye]

It's not guilt, it's concern that while there will be so many strong, loving Christians around me in the trib, duking it out with the forces of evil, I'll be the scared little sheep in the corner with nothing to offer.......

Matthew 5:1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: 2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
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Matthew 5 is great reading in its entirety. Here's some more.

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
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[gracechick]

It's not guilt, it's concern that while there will be so many strong, loving Christians around me in the trib, duking it out with the forces of evil, I'll be the scared little sheep in the corner with nothing to offer.......

Did you see how you worded this post? You used the word "I'll" when it is only by the hand of the Lord and His power that any of the Church will survive the chaos and full press of evil

I do believe in the rapture myself, but no I have no definite answers about the how and the when. Perhaps we will see some more prophecy fufilled and then in a twinkling of an eye we are Home safe with the Lord. But I believe it is also possible the Church may see the start of the tribulation and is asked to endure till Christ comes for us.

Irregardless if the Lord has put that desire in your heart to stand up to the assault of evil that is about to be unleashed on the earth you will be able and prepared. Keep praying and spending time with Him just as the others have posted in this thread.

 

[zeke37]

It's not guilt, it's concern that while there will be so many strong, loving Christians around me in the trib, duking it out with the forces of evil, I'll be the scared little sheep in the corner with nothing to offer.......

Revelation 8

1And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
2And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
3And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
4And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
5And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
6And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.


seems what ever your role is, it'll be mighty important! Pray...and stay faithful

 

[NJBeliever]

Don't worry. You won't be here for it.

Look at the flood. Sodom and Gomorrah. The destruction of Jehrico. The Passover. God's people are always removed before the judgment starts. There is no judgment sent directly to the world from God in the Bible that His believers ever had to suffer through. The Great Tribulation will be no different.

 

[cf4rc]

I have been reading the threads the last few days about being left behind or taken, there is no rapture, we'll be raptured in the spring, etc. and one thing keeps sticking out to me:

What if there is no rapture, we're all left behind to make it through the tribulation, and I am not strong enough to battle the forces of evil in God's army????

I had such un-shakable faith as a child and a teenager and it wasn't until here recently that I have begun a walk again with Jesus, but I am still so unsure of many things

What if my faith never becomes strong enough? I feel so lost right now - like I said before, everything I came to know and am still being taught today may or may not be true.

How do I go against what I have thought was of God? What if I fail during the tribulation and am not brave enough when faced with true evil?

I know...it sounds like a rant of a crazy woman - I am not though, just a little freaked out and still trying to find myself.

Kat

Peace to you sister Katrina...

In the few days, I think, since you began to focus on your doubts and fears brought out by hearing that what you have believed for so long...
and have been taught to you for so long even up to this day...about the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine...is maybe not supported by the Word or by as many Christians as you may have presumed...with good reason...
and therefore is possibly wrong...

These questions you have will not get any better answers than what you have already heard from all of us with our personal opinions or...more importantly...straight from the Word of God...on this thread and others...

Even if there are 1,002 posts that reply to your questions...the answers are going to be approximately the same...it is not rather pre-trib is true or false...that discussion can go on forever...

It is rather you keep coming up with one question after another...still looking for answers...when the answers have already been given to you a dozen times...or more...saying basically...HAVE FAITH IN GOD...DO NOT FEAR...HE LOVES YOU...HE WILL BE YOUR STRENGTH...etc..etc..etc

The questions now are what are you going to do with the answers you have been given?...

What are you going to do about your love and faith in God...no matter how weak or strong they are at this time?...

It is really out of our hands...you can tug at our heart strings now and even hundreds later all you want but if you keep on playing your sad song on the violin of fear and doubt...in God and in yourself...all will be for naught...

peace and love...God Bless...

 

[cf4rc]

Good bye bad post...

 

[zeke37]

i was thinking the same thing, and was about to say as much, but i see you already did.
i (many of us) can very easily prove post trib correct (to anyone open minded enough to see truth)
and that God WILL protect His faithful in that time

that's the whole point!


we do not escape the temptation hour by leaving the planet and not being here for it at all....
but rather by simply not being tempted to worship the false Christ in the hour of temptation.

if you are filled with the truth of His Word,
then you cannot be tempted in that time.

being filled with / sealed with the truth, will keep you faithful to Christ
because in your patience posses ye your soul!

the false Christ comes first to tempt you (us)....

 

[zeke37]

Don't worry. You won't be here for it.

Look at the flood. Sodom and Gomorrah. The destruction of Jehrico. The Passover. God's people are always removed before the judgment starts. There is no judgment sent directly to the world from God in the Bible that His believers ever had to suffer through. The Great Tribulation will be no different.

how'd ya miss this one?

1And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
2And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.
3And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.
4And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
5And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD.
6And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.
7And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
8They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
9And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:
10Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.
11And Moses besought the LORD his God, and said, LORD, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand?
12Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, and say, For mischief did he bring them out, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people.
13Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.
14And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
15And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
16And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables.
17And when Joshua heard the noise of the people as they shouted, he said unto Moses, There is a noise of war in the camp.
18And he said, It is not the voice of them that shout for mastery, neither is it the voice of them that cry for being overcome: but the noise of them that sing do I hear.
19And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount.
20And he took the calf which they had made, and burnt it in the fire, and ground it to powder, and strawed it upon the water, and made the children of Israel drink of it.
21And Moses said unto Aaron, What did this people unto thee, that thou hast brought so great a sin upon them?
22And Aaron said, Let not the anger of my lord wax hot: thou knowest the people, that they are set on mischief.
23For they said unto me, Make us gods, which shall go before us: for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
24And I said unto them, Whosoever hath any gold, let them break it off. So they gave it me: then I cast it into the fire, and there came out this calf.
25And when Moses saw that the people were naked; (for Aaron had made them naked unto their shame among their enemies
26Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD's side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.
27And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
28And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.
29For Moses had said, Consecrate yourselves today to the LORD, even every man upon his son, and upon his brother; that he may bestow upon you a blessing this day.
30And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the LORD; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin.
31And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold.
32Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.
33And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
34Therefore now go, lead the people unto the place of which I have spoken unto thee: behold, mine Angel shall go before thee: nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them.
35And the LORD plagued the people, because they made the calf, which Aaron made.

 

[zeke37]

ps. who is left and who is taken?

36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Rev12:15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Don't worry. You won't be here for it.

Look at the flood. Sodom and Gomorrah. The destruction of Jehrico. The Passover. God's people are always removed before the judgment starts. There is no judgment sent directly to the world from God in the Bible that His believers ever had to suffer through. The Great Tribulation will be no different.

Look at what scripture says:

Isaiah 26:17 Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD.
18 We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.
19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
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But I'm sure there's an explanation for why scripture says "shut thy doors ... until the indignation be overpast". There's always an explanation ...


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[gracechick]

Can everyone be supportive, keep their opinions to themselves and get back to the OP please.