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I should have said that that verse is misapplied - apologies.
Simply go back and edit your post #245. Then you can delete your post #246.

I hardly ever make a post that I don't have to edit right after posting it - because of typo's, incorrect grammar, leaving out words, etc.
 
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Genesis 12:1 A righteous man called Abram was called out by God, to move into the Land, now called Israel. God promised great blessings to him.
Genesis 15:5 The Lord showed Abram the night sky, and said, “Your descendants will be as many as the stars in the sky.”
Genesis 15:18 “I give to your descendants this Land - from the Nile to the Euphrates river.”

Genesis 16:1-16 Abram and his wife Sarai were childless, so he lay with Hagar, Sarai’s servant, and she bore a son called Ishmael. The prophesy about Ishmael is: He will be like a wild ass, his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand will be against him, even his own kin.

Genesis 17:1-24 When Abram was 99, the Lord appeared to him and said, “I am the Lord Almighty, live in My presence and be blameless. This is My covenant with you; I shall make you the father of many nations. I shall be your God and the God of your descendants. As a sign of this covenant, all males must be circumcised in every generation. You will have another son, to be called Isaac; he will be your heir. Ishmael, too, I will bless and a great nation will come from him.” [The Arab peoples]

Genesis 18:17-18 The Lord said, “Your new name is Abraham and a great and powerful nation will come from you. All the other nations will wish to be blessed as they are.”
Genesis 18:19 “For I have chosen you that you may instruct your family and posterity in the ways of the Lord, by doing what is right and just, so that I will fulfil for My people all that I have promised.” Reference: Revised English Bible, some verses abridged.

Now it is every faithful Christian who are Abraham’s offspring. Galatians 3:26-29
WE are the inheritors of all of the Holy Land. WE will live there and be Gods witnesses and His Light to the nations.
 
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The Lord will return and raise Israel from the dead and place them in their land, that is what the Bible prophecies. Jeremiah 30:9, Psalm 16:10 David will be resurrected, Isaiah 26:19 Isaiah will be resurrected, Job 19:26 Job will be resurrected, all righteous Israel will be resurrected and brought into their land.
Ezekiel 37:10-12 has not happened yet.
 
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The Lord will return and raise Israel from the dead and place them in their land, that is what the Bible prophecies. Jeremiah 30:9, Psalm 16:10 David will be resurrected, Isaiah 26:19 Isaiah will be resurrected, Job 19:26 Job will be resurrected, all righteous Israel will be resurrected and brought into their land.
Ezekiel 37:10-12 has not happened yet.
You have made some fairly wild guesswork. -
The only dead people Jesus will raise when He Returns, will be the GT martyrs. Rev 20:4
The proper inheritors of the Holy Land are the faithful Christian peoples. John sees them there in Rev 7:9 In the nation of Beulah; Isaiah 62:1-5
ONLY after the Millennium, will everyone who has ever lived be raised - to stand in Judgment before God, Rev 20:11-15

Ezekiel 37:10-12, is a Spiritual regeneration, which has happened to the millions who have accepted the Salvation of Jesus. Proved by verse 11, where it is the whole peoples of Israel, that is ALL of the twelve tribes, AND after Jesus came: every faithful Christian.
 
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take a year off this forum. Read "Apocalypse Now and Then" by Dr Paul Barnett. Watch everything by "The Bible Project." Have a forum holiday. Because this whole vision business of yours? It's REALLY not a good look mate!
Mate; I aren't going to do any of what you say.
My job is to point out the unfulfilled Prophesies to all who accept them. Those who don't; simply remain in the dark about Gods plans for our future.
As a fallible human, I make mistakes and I correct them as I continue to learn. That you keep dragging up my mistakes, shows the paucity of your rebuttals and your unpleasant attitude.

We can see today how the Lord will take action to cleanse all the Holy Land. There is no other way to resolve the chronic situation in the Middle East. Over 100 Prophesies describe that Day, it will happen and Bible believers should know all about it.
THEN - all of the Holy Land will be repopulated by the Christian peoples. The OP describes it. Read it and believe the Christians destiny.
 
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When you've read Paul Barnett's "Apocalypse now and then" we'll have a conversation.

But right now - I think you should drop this pretence that you know anything about eschatology. Like, anything.

Where's the AOD Keras?
It's 22 Jan 2026.

You predicted:
1. 2012,
2. The United Muslim Jihad,
3. December 14th,
4. The AOD in the temple RIGHT NOW!

That's 4 strikes you're out!
(I mean, the OT only gives you ONE strike for false prophecy!)
If this were about a matter of interpretation, it would be less serious.
But humbly submitting a matter of opinion on interpretation was never your "thang" - as they say - was it?

Nope.

You needed more. More power and authority to smite those who disagreed with your 'vision'.

You said your views came from God himself - from your 'vision' of 2010!

"I am just a humble servant of the Most High God. He gave me a task: to promote what His prophets wrote so long ago, because what they wrote then, is about to happen soon. I know this, because in 2010, when I was in the Holy Land; I received a vision from the Lord and inspiration to do this."​

LA DE DA! How fancy!

Such fancy visions!

I would be concerned that I would be puffed up with pride - but you remained the Lord's "Humble servant!" :oldthumbsup:

“I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel and change the world, ready for the lead up to His glorious Return. I doesn't take great Biblical qualifications to know what God has planned, in fact such learning is a hindrance to finding the truth..." The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations


Your "vision" made YOU the expert.
All that theological stuff I quoted?
Wisdom of the world.
Mumbo-jumbo.
The stuff of pigs!

But because you were so "perfectly confident", I asked you anyway! And you just couldn't resist giving us your answer could you? Because your end times table is so unique, so clear, so special, that anyone that disagrees is as unclean as a swine!

"And don't ask me when, as you would do what Jesus said will happen in: Matthew 7:6

You worked out when the Lord would return, in 2029.5, and if we take off 3.5 years for the AOD to happen that means we should be watching the AOD take the temple right now. This month. January, 2026.
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

Where is the temple Keras?
Where is the AOD?
There isn't even a temple in Israel?

You made false claims about what God told you.
Fake visions.
That makes you a false prophet in my books!

You really should take a long hard look at yourself. That's Aussie vernacular for REPENT!
Take your blog down.
Stop hassling Christians about end-times-tables born of a fevered imagination over-reacting to Jerusalem Syndrome.
Start praying for forgiveness for misrepresenting the Holy Spirit with this whole 'vision' debacle.
Learn some humility.
And start reading how to do hermeneutics, how to read the bible, how to understand what the prophets were ACTUALLY saying about ACTUAL events in ACTUAL history. Historical events predicted SO clearly that Josephus says he thinks the Persian ruler Cyrus MUST have been shown passages from Isaiah to fulfil them so clearly and literally.

Then also read about how to tell when the prophets are dropping symbolic hints about the future New Heavens and New Earth - paradise itself - and how their Jewish understanding of things might have shaped their unique symbols and understanding in depicting these things.

Basically, if I were you, I'd take a year off this forum. Read "Apocalypse Now and Then" by Dr Paul Barnett. Watch everything by "The Bible Project." Have a forum holiday. Because this whole vision business of yours? It's REALLY not a good look mate!
Just curious, along with keras 's failed prediction you cited, did part of that prediction include his prediction that a solar event will depopulate the middle east, and the current nation of Israel replaced by Christians migrating there in the after math to create a new nation called Beulah ?
 
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My job is to point out the unfulfilled Prophesies to all who accept them.
You point out your interpretation of the prophecies.
And I doubt it's a job.
Those who don't; simply remain in the dark about Gods plans for our future.
It appears that God might have changed his mind a few times.
As a fallible human, I make mistakes and I correct them as I continue to learn.
If they are God's words and God's prophecies, all would happen as you said - there would be no mistakes.
That you keep dragging up my mistakes, shows the paucity of your rebuttals and your unpleasant attitude.
Either that, or he is confused about how God can possibly make so many mistakes and is trying to get you to understand that it's you who may be mistaken.
You don't seem to be prepared to admit to that - in your view, everyone is wrong, except you.
The OP describes it.
The OP describes your view of it.
If you're off to the Holy Land in a few years time to help build a temple; good luck.
 
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The OP describes your view of it.
The OP is Gods Word: Isaiah 49:1-26 Listen to Me you peoples far distant,...... But Zion [the Holy Land] said: The Lord has forsaken me, and my Lord has forgotten me…. The children which you will have, after you have lost the former ones, shall say to you: This place is too small for us, give us more space to dwell . Then you will say to yourself: Who has begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children, and am alone and desolate, and where have they come from? Thus says the Lord GOD, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders, for they shall not be ashamed that have faith in Me.
Zion, the Holy Land is going to be desolated and then re-populated by the Lords peoples. Those who John sees in Revelation 7:9/
If you're off to the Holy Land in a few years time to help build a temple; good luck.
I will and I do not need luck.
If they are God's words and God's prophecies, all would happen as you said - there would be no mistakes.
Any mistakes are mine. Regrettable errors of timing, for which I have apologised.
Anyone who thinks the world will continue on more or less as it is now, is deluded.
 
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@Douggg -
a solar event Isaiah 30:26a will depopulate the middle east, Hosea 4:3, Zephaniah 1:18 and the current nation of Israel Isaiah 22:14 replaced by Christians Ezekiel 34:11-16, migrating there Isaiah 66:18b-21, Psalms 107 in the after math to create a new nation called Beulah ? Isaiah 62:1-8
 
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@Douggg -
a solar event Isaiah 30:26a will depopulate the middle east, Hosea 4:3, Zephaniah 1:18 and the current nation of Israel Isaiah 22:14 replaced by Christians Ezekiel 34:11-16, migrating there Isaiah 66:18b-21, Psalms 107 in the after math to create a new nation called Beulah ? Isaiah 62:1-8
And when did you first come up with that theory ?
 
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And when did you first come up with that theory ?
When I read what the Bible actually says.
The difficulty most have in seeing the truths of the Prophetic Word, is they have chosen to believe false theories and unscriptural doctrines.
This results in the Lord locking them into those wrong theories and only by renouncing those false teachings, can they understand.
For most; it will only be after the Lords Day of wrath, that their eyes will be opened and ears unstopped.

Isaiah 35:1-10 says this will happen then and how Zion will be beautiful, as the Lords peoples travel there, with songs and great joyfulness.
Those who fought against Bible truths and promoted false teachings, may have a hard time of it all.
 
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This results in the Lord locking them into those wrong theories and only by renouncing those false teachings, can they understand.
What evidence do you have that the Lord "locks people into wrong theories"?
We have God's Holy Spirit - the Spirit of truth and the Spirit who is making us more like Jesus, 2 Corinthians 3:18 - in us. Why would the Lord not teach us his truth if we ask him and are truly open?
Why is someone who has this Spirit of truth, but who disagrees with you, somehow at a disadvantage, or at fault, because they don't place as much emphasis on the OT prophets as you do?
 
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What evidence do you have that the Lord "locks people into wrong theories"?
Isaiah 29:9-12 If you confuse yourself, you will stay confused.....for the Lord has poured on you a spirit of deep stupor. The Prophetic vision of it all has become for you like the words in a sealed book. ......
Isaiah 42:19-20 Who is so blind but My servant? ....the one who has My trust... so deaf as the servant of the Lord. You have seen much, but perceived little, your ears are open, but you hear nothing. REBible

It is perfectly evident from the proliferation of theories, ideas and plain guesswork, that there is much confusion among Christians as to what God has planned for our future.
In ancient times, the Lord led his chosen people into the Promised Land. They failed to occupy all of it and allowed the idolatrous inhabitants to remain, which caused the Israelites to sin, so God had them exiled. But for a set period; Ezekiel 4:4-6.

Now: there is coming a great Second Exodus, Isaiah 11:11, and God will have what He always wanted,- a faithful people in all of His Holy Land, being His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10, John 15:27, and His Light to the nations; Isaiah 42:6, Matthew 5:14-16
 
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I am asking what year you came up with the solar flare depopulation - replacement theory.
2010 - 2012, when I lived in Jordan.
That was when I set up the www.logostelos.info website and began posting on Christian eschatology Forums.
I have never changed my beliefs about what the Lord will use on His Day of wrath and of our Christian destiny.

Interestingly, it was in the 1980's when I first became interested in Bible Prophecy. I wrote them all out and correlated them into a logical sequence, but I had a strong direction from the Lord to leave it; then 30 years later. to take Prophecy seriously again.

Explain how you can call a 'theory' - plainly stated Prophetic Words?
 
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Explain how you can call a 'theory' - plainly stated Prophetic Words?
It's a (invalid) theory because Ezekiel 38-39 is not talking about a solar event/replacement Christian nation. Israel in those chapters is about the Jews returning to Israel from the nations.
 
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It's a (invalid) theory because Ezekiel 38-39 is not talking about a solar event/replacement Christian nation. Israel in those chapters is about the Jews returning to Israel from the nations.
The clearly Prophesied CME sun explosion and the great Second Exodus of Gods peoples, will take place some time before Ezekiel 38 to 39 happens.

The peoples who Gog/Magog attack, are not and cannot be the present Jewish State of Israel. They are not defenceless and their 'walls of protection' - Iron Dome, etc, are physical.
The protection for the new peoples in all of the Holy Land, is their faith in the Lord and He does not fail them. Joel 2:20

Any ideas and opinions about the Jewish people being redeemed before Jesus Returns, are false and totally contradictory to scriptural truth.
 
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The clearly Prophesied CME sun explosion and the great Second Exodus of Gods peoples, will take place some time before Ezekiel 38 to 39 happens.

The peoples who Gog/Magog attack, are not and cannot be the present Jewish State of Israel. They are not defenceless and their 'walls of protection' - Iron Dome, etc, are physical.
The protection for the new peoples in all of the Holy Land, is their faith in the Lord and He does not fail them. Joel 2:20

Any ideas and opinions about the Jewish people being redeemed before Jesus Returns, are false and totally contradictory to scriptural truth.
Ezekiel 38-39 is not talking about an attack on a Christian nation. It is talking about the Jews and Israel.

Do theses verses in Ezekiel 39 sound like it is talking about Christians ?

22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.

23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

Also, these verses ?

25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;

26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
 
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