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The origin of Quantum Fields??

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Nothing would exist without the quantum fields. Not life, not math, not even reality! Absolutely nothing.

A scientist would argue, mathematics forbid the absence of quantum fields or Zero point energy......

But without the quantum fields, even math and physics would not exist!!

We argue about life but nothing would exist in the first place without the quantum field / zero point energy

And nobody knows how the quantum field came to be. Even religion have no answer. Nothing says that God created the quantum field. It is already there when God started working!!

The importance of the quantum field is such it makes everything else a distraction.
 

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Nothing would exist without the quantum fields. Not life, not math, not even reality! Absolutely nothing.

A scientist would argue, mathematics forbid the absence of quantum fields or Zero point energy......

But without the quantum fields, even math and physics would not exist!!

We argue about life but nothing would exist in the first place without the quantum field / zero point energy

And nobody knows how the quantum field came to be. Even religion have no answer. Nothing says that God created the quantum field. It is already there when God started working!!

The importance of the quantum field is such it makes everything else a distraction.
How about -- they always existed.

If we have no evidence for their creation, nor a mechanism, that is the logical conclusion.
 
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How about -- they always existed.

If we have no evidence for their creation, nor a mechanism, that is the logical conclusion.

No beginning, no end, all powerful in a sense, omnipresent, omniscient in terms of information.

Sometimes I wonder if it's God

or the "Kingdom of Heaven" - "It is within you" within all of us and "men take it by force" at least in the modern context through nuclear and quantum tech.

This is even much more fundamental than the creation of the VISIBLE portion of the Universe, yet nobody seems to care.
 
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No beginning, no end, all powerful in a sense, omnipresent, omniscient in terms of information.
No reason to call it "omniscient" (no evidence of consciousness in the fundamental quantum fields) or "omnipotence". Just no beginning or end.
Sometimes I wonder if it's God

or the "Kingdom of Heaven" - "It is within you" within all of us and "men take it by force" at least in the modern context through nuclear and quantum tech.
That seems an unnecessary addition.
This is even much more fundamental than the creation of the VISIBLE portion of the Universe, yet nobody seems to care.
Like many of your statements, I don't have a clue what you are trying to get on about here.
 
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No reason to call it "omniscient" (no evidence of consciousness in the fundamental quantum fields) or "omnipotence". Just no beginning or end.

That seems an unnecessary addition.

Like many of your statements, I don't have a clue what you are trying to get on about here.
This thread is proof that nobody wants to talk about things that is even more fundamental than creation itself.

Yet it reveals that most gods are just impostors. The universe already had substance when creation took place. That our visible universe came from nothing is not true. It came from the invisible. But nobody wants to talk about the invisible. Everything has to be bright and shiny to matter.
 
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This thread is proof that nobody wants to talk about things that is even more fundamental than creation itself.

Yet it reveals that most gods are just impostors. The universe already had substance when creation took place. That our visible universe came from nothing is not true. It came from the invisible. But nobody wants to talk about the invisible. Everything has to be bright and shiny to matter.
I'd be up for coherent. Your posts are lacking in comprehensibility. A lot of terms are being used in nonstandard ways which is a barrier to understanding. I have no idea what "imposter gods" are even doing in this thread.
 
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