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Strong in Him · Jan 3, 2026

keras said:
Hosea says it too:

I don't care who said what.
I was making the point that you keep taking verses - or parts of verses - out of context to illustrate whatever point you want to make. And if anyone disagrees with your interpretation, then we are disagreeing with the Scriptures.

Jesus and the Apostles taught about his return. They did not mention a CME, the 6th seal, Christian believers in Athens, Rome etc needing to travel to the holy land or anything else.
They certainly didn't say, "here, when you have a bit of spare time, look at all the OT prophecies and decide which apply to the present day."

keras · Jan 3, 2026

Strong in Him said:
I don't care who said what.

A very poor attitude.

Strong in Him said:
I was making the point that you keep taking verses - or parts of verses - out of context to illustrate whatever point you want to make. And if anyone disagrees with your interpretation, then we are disagreeing with the Scriptures.

From what I see, that is just your opinion, I have yet to see any proof of my using verses out of context. It is your beliefs which are challenged and you can't handle it. Even Zechariah 5 is in the end times context, as Zech 4 ad 6 are as well.
Here is an example, a Prophecy I often use: Ezekiel 34:11-16. It tells how the Lord will gather His 'sheep' into all of the Holy Land. Also Jeremiah 23:3-4, + Jesus made it clear who His 'sheep' are. John 10:10-16
Are they not in the context of the end times? If not; when?

If people reject the idea of the Christian peoples going to live in all of the Holy Land, then they do disagree with many scriptures.
The Christian peoples ARE the Lords sheep, they ARE the Holy peoples who the 'beast' will conquer for the final 3 1/2 years of this age.

Strong in Him · Jan 3, 2026

keras said:
A very poor attitude.

I don't mean generally, I mean in light of this discussion.
When I said, "Isaiah says this ...." I wasn't inviting you to tell me how many others say it too. I was saying that you only take random verses, or parts of verses, out of context to make a point.

keras said:
Even Zechariah 5 is in the end times context, as Zech 4 ad 6 are as well.

i) It's your interpretation that Zechariah 5 is about end times.
ii) You have taken the scroll and the container from that chapter and decided that they fit a description of a nuclear bomb. You reached that conclusion because "if you ask most people what a lead-covered tube that destroys things is, they will say 'a nuclear missile'."
iii) You have decided that the country involved is Iran.
iv) Hence your interpretation - Iran is going to use nuclear weapons to destroy Israel.

keras said:
Here is an example, a Prophecy I often use: Ezekiel 34:11-16. It tells how the Lord will gather His 'sheep' into all of the Holy Land. Also Jeremiah 23:3-4, + Jesus made it clear who His 'sheep' are. John 10:10-16
Are they not in the context of the end times? If not; when?

And you've just given a very good example of taking random verses out of context to find your scenario.
Your focus is "end times"; that's it. I may be wrong, but I've never seen you offer exegesis or an in depth study on the book of Zechariah, Isaiah, Hosea , Ezekiel etc. No insight as to what they tell us about God or the history of the times.
It's just a dash of Zechariah here, a little of Isaiah here; Ezekiel says this and John says something similar in this verse - all are ingredients in your end times cake.

keras said:
If people reject the idea of the Christian peoples going to live in all of the Holy Land, then they do disagree with many scriptures.

OT Scriptures and that's just your opinion.
Where did Paul say, "the Lord will be returning soon so leave your country and go and live in Israel"?
The Apostles didn't talk of Christians rebuilding the Temple - many of them were dead before the Temple was destroyed.

keras · Jan 3, 2026

Strong in Him said:
that's just your opinion.

Sad really, that so many just cannot understand Gods plans for our future.
We know from the Bible history chapters that God wanted His people to be in the Holy Land. He does not change. Malachi 3:6 Note in that verse that the children of Jacob still exist. They are the Overcomers for God. As seen in each of the seven Churchs of Revelation.

The New Testament is to build the Church.
There are many Prophesies in it too, Luke 21:25-26 tells of the forthcoming Day the Lord will reset out civilization.

Strong in Him · Jan 3, 2026

keras said:
He does not change. Malachi 3:6

And that verse is misquoted as well.

God does not change in character, nature etc. He often changes how he acts.
For example, God told Moses to build a Tabernacle. None of the Patriarchs did that; if God spoke to them or they had a sacred experience, they built an altar/set up a stone, worshipped him and then moved on. Suddenly, God was being "carried around" so that he would be with people where they were.
Then God told Solomon to build a Temple - and the tabernacle was not heard of again, (though the ark of the covenant was.) That Temple was destroyed and another one was built, and later IT was destroyed.
Nowadays, God lives in the hearts of his children, who are temples of the Holy Spirit.
Or consider sacrifices. Many thousands of animals were being sacrificed for sin, as God commanded Moses. Then, he sent Jesus to die for us and Paul wrote that the blood of bulls and sheep cannot atone for sin.
God told Moses to tell the Hebrew slaves not to eat pork or shrimp. Yet Paul said that the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking. Mark commented that "in saying this, Jesus declared all foods to be clean."
God told people not to worship idols. Yet Paul said that an idol is nothing and if someone wants to eat meat offered to an idol, they can - as long as it does not lead other people astray.

God told the prophets that he would punish people for their sins. But some listened, e.g. Nineveh, and he didn't. Abraham pleaded for the city of Sodom who were ging to be destroyed, and he got God to agree that if there were 50, 40, 30, even 10 righteous people, the city would be saved. Sadly, there weren't even that number, but the point is that God wasn't so fixed in his plans that he wasn't prepared to change them if the circumstances were different.

God himself said to Isaiah, "see, I am doing a new thing", Isaiah 43:19. He told Jeremiah he would make a new covenant, and the book of Hebrews said that where there is a new covenant, the old one becomes obsolete and will soon disappear.
He told Ezekiel that he would put a new spirit in people.
Revelation says that there is to be a new heaven and a new earth.

Strong in Him · Jan 3, 2026

Strong in Him said:
And that verse is misquoted as well.

I should have said that that verse is misapplied - apologies.

Douggg · Jan 3, 2026

Strong in Him said:
I should have said that that verse is misapplied - apologies.

Simply go back and edit your post #245. Then you can delete your post #246.

I hardly ever make a post that I don't have to edit right after posting it - because of typo's, incorrect grammar, leaving out words, etc.

keras · Jan 4, 2026

Genesis 12:1 A righteous man called Abram was called out by God, to move into the Land, now called Israel. God promised great blessings to him.
Genesis 15:5 The Lord showed Abram the night sky, and said, “Your descendants will be as many as the stars in the sky.”
Genesis 15:18 “I give to your descendants this Land - from the Nile to the Euphrates river.”

Genesis 16:1-16 Abram and his wife Sarai were childless, so he lay with Hagar, Sarai’s servant, and she bore a son called Ishmael. The prophesy about Ishmael is: He will be like a wild ass, his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand will be against him, even his own kin.

Genesis 17:1-24 When Abram was 99, the Lord appeared to him and said, “I am the Lord Almighty, live in My presence and be blameless. This is My covenant with you; I shall make you the father of many nations. I shall be your God and the God of your descendants. As a sign of this covenant, all males must be circumcised in every generation. You will have another son, to be called Isaac; he will be your heir. Ishmael, too, I will bless and a great nation will come from him.” [The Arab peoples]

Genesis 18:17-18 The Lord said, “Your new name is Abraham and a great and powerful nation will come from you. All the other nations will wish to be blessed as they are.”
Genesis 18:19 “For I have chosen you that you may instruct your family and posterity in the ways of the Lord, by doing what is right and just, so that I will fulfil for My people all that I have promised.” Reference: Revised English Bible, some verses abridged.

Now it is every faithful Christian who are Abraham’s offspring. Galatians 3:26-29
WE are the inheritors of all of the Holy Land. WE will live there and be Gods witnesses and His Light to the nations.

contratodo · Jan 4, 2026

The Lord will return and raise Israel from the dead and place them in their land, that is what the Bible prophecies. Jeremiah 30:9, Psalm 16:10 David will be resurrected, Isaiah 26:19 Isaiah will be resurrected, Job 19:26 Job will be resurrected, all righteous Israel will be resurrected and brought into their land.
Ezekiel 37:10-12 has not happened yet.

keras · Jan 4, 2026

contratodo said:
The Lord will return and raise Israel from the dead and place them in their land, that is what the Bible prophecies. Jeremiah 30:9, Psalm 16:10 David will be resurrected, Isaiah 26:19 Isaiah will be resurrected, Job 19:26 Job will be resurrected, all righteous Israel will be resurrected and brought into their land.
Ezekiel 37:10-12 has not happened yet.

You have made some fairly wild guesswork. -
The only dead people Jesus will raise when He Returns, will be the GT martyrs. Rev 20:4
The proper inheritors of the Holy Land are the faithful Christian peoples. John sees them there in Rev 7:9 In the nation of Beulah; Isaiah 62:1-5
ONLY after the Millennium, will everyone who has ever lived be raised - to stand in Judgment before God, Rev 20:11-15

Ezekiel 37:10-12, is a Spiritual regeneration, which has happened to the millions who have accepted the Salvation of Jesus. Proved by verse 11, where it is the whole peoples of Israel, that is ALL of the twelve tribes, AND after Jesus came: every faithful Christian.

Jipsah · Jan 8, 2026

Guojing said:
I suppose you will answer "don't know and don't care"?

Is there a reason why I should care?

Jipsah · Jan 8, 2026

Guojing said:
Oh, so to you, that promise is not just to the 12, but anyone that follows Jesus, including us?

In my case, this is where the "don't care" part kicks in.

eclipsenow · Wednesday at 9:16 PM

keras said:
But Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7 both show how Gods Holy people are present in the holy Land.

When you've read Paul Barnett's "Apocalypse now and then" we'll have a conversation.

But right now - I think you should drop this pretence that you know anything about eschatology. Like, anything.

Where's the AOD Keras?
It's 22 Jan 2026.

You predicted:
1. 2012,
2. The United Muslim Jihad,
3. December 14th,
4. The AOD in the temple RIGHT NOW!

That's 4 strikes you're out!
(I mean, the OT only gives you ONE strike for false prophecy!)
If this were about a matter of interpretation, it would be less serious.
But humbly submitting a matter of opinion on interpretation was never your "thang" - as they say - was it?

Nope.

You needed more. More power and authority to smite those who disagreed with your 'vision'.

You said your views came from God himself - from your 'vision' of 2010!

"I am just a humble servant of the Most High God. He gave me a task: to promote what His prophets wrote so long ago, because what they wrote then, is about to happen soon. I know this, because in 2010, when I was in the Holy Land; I received a vision from the Lord and inspiration to do this."

The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations - from 2020

LA DE DA! How fancy!

Such fancy visions!

I would be concerned that I would be puffed up with pride - but you remained the Lord's "Humble servant!"

“I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel and change the world, ready for the lead up to His glorious Return. I doesn't take great Biblical qualifications to know what God has planned, in fact such learning is a hindrance to finding the truth..." The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

Your "vision" made YOU the expert.
All that theological stuff I quoted?
Wisdom of the world.
Mumbo-jumbo.
The stuff of pigs!

But because you were so "perfectly confident", I asked you anyway! And you just couldn't resist giving us your answer could you? Because your end times table is so unique, so clear, so special, that anyone that disagrees is as unclean as a swine!

"And don't ask me when, as you would do what Jesus said will happen in: Matthew 7:6“

You worked out when the Lord would return, in 2029.5, and if we take off 3.5 years for the AOD to happen that means we should be watching the AOD take the temple right now. This month. January, 2026.
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

Where is the temple Keras?
Where is the AOD?
There isn't even a temple in Israel?

You made false claims about what God told you.
Fake visions.
That makes you a false prophet in my books!

You really should take a long hard look at yourself. That's Aussie vernacular for REPENT!
Take your blog down.
Stop hassling Christians about end-times-tables born of a fevered imagination over-reacting to Jerusalem Syndrome.
Start praying for forgiveness for misrepresenting the Holy Spirit with this whole 'vision' debacle.
Learn some humility.
And start reading how to do hermeneutics, how to read the bible, how to understand what the prophets were ACTUALLY saying about ACTUAL events in ACTUAL history. Historical events predicted SO clearly that Josephus says he thinks the Persian ruler Cyrus MUST have been shown passages from Isaiah to fulfil them so clearly and literally.

Then also read about how to tell when the prophets are dropping symbolic hints about the future New Heavens and New Earth - paradise itself - and how their Jewish understanding of things might have shaped their unique symbols and understanding in depicting these things.

Basically, if I were you, I'd take a year off this forum. Read "Apocalypse Now and Then" by Dr Paul Barnett. Watch everything by "The Bible Project." Have a forum holiday. Because this whole vision business of yours? It's REALLY not a good look mate!

keras · Wednesday at 10:58 PM

eclipsenow said:
take a year off this forum. Read "Apocalypse Now and Then" by Dr Paul Barnett. Watch everything by "The Bible Project." Have a forum holiday. Because this whole vision business of yours? It's REALLY not a good look mate!

Mate; I aren't going to do any of what you say.
My job is to point out the unfulfilled Prophesies to all who accept them. Those who don't; simply remain in the dark about Gods plans for our future.
As a fallible human, I make mistakes and I correct them as I continue to learn. That you keep dragging up my mistakes, shows the paucity of your rebuttals and your unpleasant attitude.

We can see today how the Lord will take action to cleanse all the Holy Land. There is no other way to resolve the chronic situation in the Middle East. Over 100 Prophesies describe that Day, it will happen and Bible believers should know all about it.
THEN - all of the Holy Land will be repopulated by the Christian peoples. The OP describes it. Read it and believe the Christians destiny.

Douggg · 2026-01-22T01:40:02-0600

eclipsenow said:
When you've read Paul Barnett's "Apocalypse now and then" we'll have a conversation.

But right now - I think you should drop this pretence that you know anything about eschatology. Like, anything.

Where's the AOD Keras?
It's 22 Jan 2026.

You predicted:
1. 2012,
2. The United Muslim Jihad,
3. December 14th,
4. The AOD in the temple RIGHT NOW!

That's 4 strikes you're out!
(I mean, the OT only gives you ONE strike for false prophecy!)
If this were about a matter of interpretation, it would be less serious.
But humbly submitting a matter of opinion on interpretation was never your "thang" - as they say - was it?

Nope.

You needed more. More power and authority to smite those who disagreed with your 'vision'.

You said your views came from God himself - from your 'vision' of 2010!

"I am just a humble servant of the Most High God. He gave me a task: to promote what His prophets wrote so long ago, because what they wrote then, is about to happen soon. I know this, because in 2010, when I was in the Holy Land; I received a vision from the Lord and inspiration to do this."
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations - from 2020

LA DE DA! How fancy!

Such fancy visions!

I would be concerned that I would be puffed up with pride - but you remained the Lord's "Humble servant!"

“I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel and change the world, ready for the lead up to His glorious Return. I doesn't take great Biblical qualifications to know what God has planned, in fact such learning is a hindrance to finding the truth..." The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

Your "vision" made YOU the expert.
All that theological stuff I quoted?
Wisdom of the world.
Mumbo-jumbo.
The stuff of pigs!

But because you were so "perfectly confident", I asked you anyway! And you just couldn't resist giving us your answer could you? Because your end times table is so unique, so clear, so special, that anyone that disagrees is as unclean as a swine!

"And don't ask me when, as you would do what Jesus said will happen in: Matthew 7:6“

You worked out when the Lord would return, in 2029.5, and if we take off 3.5 years for the AOD to happen that means we should be watching the AOD take the temple right now. This month. January, 2026.
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

Where is the temple Keras?
Where is the AOD?
There isn't even a temple in Israel?

You made false claims about what God told you.
Fake visions.
That makes you a false prophet in my books!

You really should take a long hard look at yourself. That's Aussie vernacular for REPENT!
Take your blog down.
Stop hassling Christians about end-times-tables born of a fevered imagination over-reacting to Jerusalem Syndrome.
Start praying for forgiveness for misrepresenting the Holy Spirit with this whole 'vision' debacle.
Learn some humility.
And start reading how to do hermeneutics, how to read the bible, how to understand what the prophets were ACTUALLY saying about ACTUAL events in ACTUAL history. Historical events predicted SO clearly that Josephus says he thinks the Persian ruler Cyrus MUST have been shown passages from Isaiah to fulfil them so clearly and literally.

Then also read about how to tell when the prophets are dropping symbolic hints about the future New Heavens and New Earth - paradise itself - and how their Jewish understanding of things might have shaped their unique symbols and understanding in depicting these things.

Basically, if I were you, I'd take a year off this forum. Read "Apocalypse Now and Then" by Dr Paul Barnett. Watch everything by "The Bible Project." Have a forum holiday. Because this whole vision business of yours? It's REALLY not a good look mate!

Just curious, along with keras 's failed prediction you cited, did part of that prediction include his prediction that a solar event will depopulate the middle east, and the current nation of Israel replaced by Christians migrating there in the after math to create a new nation called Beulah ?

Strong in Him · 2026-01-22T02:01:33-0600

keras said:
My job is to point out the unfulfilled Prophesies to all who accept them.

You point out your interpretation of the prophecies.
And I doubt it's a job.

keras said:
Those who don't; simply remain in the dark about Gods plans for our future.

It appears that God might have changed his mind a few times.

keras said:
As a fallible human, I make mistakes and I correct them as I continue to learn.

If they are God's words and God's prophecies, all would happen as you said - there would be no mistakes.

keras said:
That you keep dragging up my mistakes, shows the paucity of your rebuttals and your unpleasant attitude.

Either that, or he is confused about how God can possibly make so many mistakes and is trying to get you to understand that it's you who may be mistaken.
You don't seem to be prepared to admit to that - in your view, everyone is wrong, except you.

keras said:
The OP describes it.

The OP describes your view of it.
If you're off to the Holy Land in a few years time to help build a temple; good luck.

keras · 2026-01-22T02:25:22-0600

Strong in Him said:
The OP describes your view of it.

The OP is Gods Word: Isaiah 49:1-26 Listen to Me you peoples far distant,...... But Zion [the Holy Land] said: The Lord has forsaken me, and my Lord has forgotten me…. The children which you will have, after you have lost the former ones, shall say to you: This place is too small for us, give us more space to dwell . Then you will say to yourself: Who has begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children, and am alone and desolate, and where have they come from? Thus says the Lord GOD, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders, for they shall not be ashamed that have faith in Me.
Zion, the Holy Land is going to be desolated and then re-populated by the Lords peoples. Those who John sees in Revelation 7:9/

Strong in Him said:
If you're off to the Holy Land in a few years time to help build a temple; good luck.

I will and I do not need luck.

Strong in Him said:
If they are God's words and God's prophecies, all would happen as you said - there would be no mistakes.

Any mistakes are mine. Regrettable errors of timing, for which I have apologised.
Anyone who thinks the world will continue on more or less as it is now, is deluded.

keras · 2026-01-22T02:35:54-0600

@Douggg -
a solar event Isaiah 30:26a will depopulate the middle east, Hosea 4:3, Zephaniah 1:18 and the current nation of Israel Isaiah 22:14 replaced by Christians Ezekiel 34:11-16, migrating there Isaiah 66:18b-21, Psalms 107 in the after math to create a new nation called Beulah ? Isaiah 62:1-8

Douggg · 2026-01-22T04:35:56-0600

keras said:
@Douggg -
a solar event Isaiah 30:26a will depopulate the middle east, Hosea 4:3, Zephaniah 1:18 and the current nation of Israel Isaiah 22:14 replaced by Christians Ezekiel 34:11-16, migrating there Isaiah 66:18b-21, Psalms 107 in the after math to create a new nation called Beulah ? Isaiah 62:1-8

And when did you first come up with that theory ?

keras · 2026-01-22T13:44:13-0600

Douggg said:
And when did you first come up with that theory ?

When I read what the Bible actually says.
The difficulty most have in seeing the truths of the Prophetic Word, is they have chosen to believe false theories and unscriptural doctrines.
This results in the Lord locking them into those wrong theories and only by renouncing those false teachings, can they understand.
For most; it will only be after the Lords Day of wrath, that their eyes will be opened and ears unstopped.

Isaiah 35:1-10 says this will happen then and how Zion will be beautiful, as the Lords peoples travel there, with songs and great joyfulness.
Those who fought against Bible truths and promoted false teachings, may have a hard time of it all.

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