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Utah Doctor Charged with destroying COVID-19 vaccines and giving children fake shots…Off the hook!

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At the very least, he should have to pay back the $28k for the product he destroyed. If you accepted product that was paid for by someone else for a specific purpose, and then lied and destroyed it, you're on the hook for that.

As far as the "ethical concerns", it sounds like the parents were in on it and went their specifically because they new that was the "hook up spot"


I'll go out on a limb here...

If a government entity started mandating that people had to undergo chemo for stage 4 terminal cancer prior to being allowed to seek physician assisted suicide (dying with dignity), and there was a doctor who was helping them "facilitate" that process without actually having to do the miserable chemo (even if it meant bending the rules), would that doctor be viewed as a "villain" or "purveyor of civil disobedience" by the same group of people who have a problem with this doctor?

I say that, because "breaking the rules" is often portrayed as an act of heroism when the topic is different.

Or, how about if the we do the exact inverse... certain states made it their policy to not recommend the covid vaccine to children. If a doctor in TX or FL went against their government guidelines, and still recommended it to young children and got in trouble, and a democratic politician at a higher level of government helped get them off the hook from State charges, would the feelings be the same?
 
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Pam Bondi Dismissed Charges Against a Surgeon Who Falsified Vaccine Cards. It Emboldened Others With Similar Cases.

Dr. Kirk Moore had been on trial for five days, accused of falsifying COVID-19 vaccination cards and throwing away the government-supplied doses.

The Utah plastic surgeon faced up to 35 years in prison if the jury found him guilty on charges that included conspiracy to defraud the United States. Testimony had paused for the weekend when Moore’s lawyer called him early one Saturday this July with what felt to him like unbelievable news.

U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi had ordered Utah prosecutors to drop all charges, abruptly ending his two-and-a-half year court battle.

Moore was one of at least 12 health care professionals charged after giving or selling fraudulent COVID-19 vaccine cards since 2021, according to cases identified by The Salt Lake Tribune and ProPublica through government news releases and media clips. Those charged include midwives, nurses, pharmacists and another surgeon. Eight were charged in federal court by the Biden administration; prosecutors from California, New York and New Jersey brought state charges against four others.

Other than Moore, only one of these health care workers went to trial: a Chicago pharmacist whom a jury found guilty of selling on eBay blank vaccine cards that he had stolen from the Walgreens where he worked. The rest pleaded guilty and were sentenced to a mix of probation, home arrest and, in a few cases, prison. Many also were professionally disciplined with fines or suspension of their medical licenses.

Of those 11, the Chicago pharmacist appealed his conviction but the U.S. Supreme Court in November declined to hear his petition; his attorney told The Tribune and ProPublica that they are exploring a presidential pardon. One other health care worker said she, too, would like to be pardoned by Trump.

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Moore met with The Tribune and ProPublica in his clinic in the Salt Lake City suburb of Midvale.

Moore referred to COVID-19 vaccines as “bioweapons” a dozen times and said he distrusts how quickly the government facilitated the vaccines’ rapid development and distribution. He said he concluded the vaccines were unsafe after conducting his own online research

The plastic surgeon said that he believes all vaccines are “poison” and that they have not been adequately tested — a view he says he has held for more than two decades. [Sounds like an unbiased Internet researcher!]

some children who received saline shots at their parents’ request falsely believed they were being vaccinated against COVID-19, according to court filings and Moore. This was a breach of medical ethics

Moore’s medical license is in good standing.
 
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