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Your perspective is limited and lacks sufficient factual support for a conclusion.



Muslim women who have held the highest office (head of state or head of government) in Muslim-majority countries:



Presidents



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  • Benazir Bhutto broke historic barriers in 1988 as the first Muslim woman to lead a Muslim-majority nation.
  • Bangladesh stands out for having two women (Khaleda Zia and Sheikh Hasina) dominate its politics for decades.
I think im done with this conversation with you. You are deliberately ignoring the points Im making about Islamists. Your entire post is irrelevant.

3 Countries where Sharia law is hardest on women | FairPlanet

https://counterjihad.com/women/

I could provide more if course. Here is one story to he told.


And as she said this is what happens in Islam with Islamists. And these are the people who are migrating to the west. Wake up. If you dismiss this again you as a blind as they come and willingly so.
 
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I think im done with this conversation with you. You are deliberately ignoring the points Im making about Islamists. Your entire post is irrelevant.

3 Countries where Sharia law is hardest on women | FairPlanet

https://counterjihad.com/women/

I could provide more if course. Here is one story to he told.


And as she said this is what happens in Islam with Islamists. And these are the people who are migrating to the west. Wake up. If you dismiss this again you as a blind as they come and willingly so.

You are correct; it would be appropriate to conclude this discussion, as my understanding is not based solely on information from media or conversations with few individuals who have converted from Islam to Christianity. Rather, I have firsthand experience living among Muslims in a majority-Muslim country.

My perspective comes from firsthand experience living and working among Muslims in majority-Muslim countries. Since I was 17, I have regularly traveled there to minister, share the gospel, and support mission schools, charities, and hospitals. Therefore, I believe this discussion should end, as my insights are not based on secondhand information like yours!
 
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You are correct; it would be appropriate to conclude this discussion, as my understanding is not based solely on information from media or conversations with few individuals who have converted from Islam to Christianity. Rather, I have firsthand experience living among Muslims in a majority-Muslim country.

My perspective comes from firsthand experience living and working among Muslims in majority-Muslim countries. Since I was 17, I have regularly traveled there to minister, share the gospel, and support mission schools, charities, and hospitals. Therefore, I believe this discussion should end, as my insights are not based on secondhand information like yours!
I have to tell you what liberals tell me when I point out that I went to school with, played sports with, worked with and am friends with black people. Your anecdotal experience is not necessarily evidence of the bigger picture
 
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That likely depends on the jurisdiction.
(as to whether or not the judge makes the final call, or if there's an option to have a change of venue)

The issue is that all of that stuff costs money, and if civil trials can be leveraged as a bludgeon to squash naysaying.

So in the case that I mentioned earlier, where the lady was insisting they actually were still running afoul of the noise ordinances (by going over the decibel limit, and playing it before 6am which was when the exempted time window begins), and the president of the Islamic Center in the city said "you're lying about us, and if you don't stop with this petition, I'll file a defamation suit"...

I don't know if she was being honest about that or not (a separate article mentioned that she took a video recording with her phone as proof, but that can be doctored)

In either case a regular person from a city having a median household income of about $36k/year likely doesn't have the money laying around to engage in a legal fight against a prominent leader of one of the city's largest organizations, and in most cases will have to just zip their lip out of fear of being steamrolled.
Are you kidding? The Alliance Defending Freedom would take that case in a minute. If she has a case. As I understand it the sound trucks are not playing prayer calls. They are Palestian activists playing music and announcements. Whether they are violating the noise ordinance is a question, but the prayer calls are coming from the mosques and apparently are not an issue. The issue is, is that the woman blamed the sound trucks on the mosques and made such a stink about it that the Islamic Center Director is suing her for defamation.
It's often times known as the "Chilling Effect" lawsuit, or a SLAPP suit. (stands for "Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation")

SLAPP suits aren't filed with the expectation of actually "winning", but to financially exhaust the defendant through legal costs. The goal is to chill free speech by making it too expensive or burdensome for someone to continue speaking out.


Not to drift into another recognized religious organization, but it's pretty common in the Scientology world (which they did technically get religious status), they'll use pooled funds for those kinds of purposes to "shut people up" who "talking a little too much" or criticizing things they're doing.
LOL! Politicians do it routinely, why not the rest of us?
 
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For anyone listening you MUST listen to the interview I posted.in 141. THAT is Islam. That is tge type of Islam I am talking about. That is the Islam that is invading the west. It is not the nice Muslim people Faith is talking about. He obviously has not had to deal with Islamists and lived the lives these women who live through this. He and others are protecting this kind of ideology that treats women like this. Please listen to her story. Its real and it is truth. Islamism is dangerous.
 
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I have to tell you what liberals tell me when I point out that I went to school with, played sports with, worked with and am friends with black people. Your anecdotal experience is not necessarily evidence of the bigger picture

my personal experience is far more “bigger picture’ then a guy who watched some you-tube video and think he is an expert in Islamic culture!
 
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For anyone listening you MUST listen to the interview I posted.in 141. THAT is Islam. That is tge type of Islam I am talking about. That is the Islam that is invading the west. It is not the nice Muslim people Faith is talking about. He obviously has not had to deal with Islamists and lived the lives these women who live through this. He and others are protecting this kind of ideology that treats women like this. Please listen to her story. Its real and it is truth. Islamism is dangerous.

This is yet another example of fearmongering regarding immigrants.
 
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my personal experience is far more “bigger picture’ then a guy who watched some you-tube video and think he is an expert in Islamic culture!
Okay. I’ll leave you two to argue about that
 
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Please listen to her story. Its real and it is truth.
Do you have any testimonies from any ex-Muslims who aren't selling books? Fear sells and it seems every ex-Muslim that does these types of interviews is doing it for financial gain.

Islamism is dangerous.
I agree; however, the vast majority of Muslims are not Islamists, and those who are, especially in the West, do not support using violence to achieve political goals or change the style of government they live under. In fact, many of the Muslims migrating to the West are escaping from oppression and conflict by violent Islamists in their country. They don't want to bring what they are escaping from to where they are now.
 
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And people overestimate how completely free of bias or prior knowledge a jury must be. The main effort is to find a jury that will only use evidence, law, and argument presented in court and to set aside any bias or prior feelings. Bench trials are also a thing.
There's yet another caveat with regards to requesting bench trials in civil cases.

In many jurisdictions, in civil cases, both parties have an enumerated right to a jury trial, which means both parties would have to agree to waive that right. Which, if there's favorable conditions due to jurisdictional advantage, why would they ever waive that to the benefit of the person they're trying to sue?
 
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You are correct; it would be appropriate to conclude this discussion, as my understanding is not based solely on information from media or conversations with few individuals who have converted from Islam to Christianity. Rather, I have firsthand experience living among Muslims in a majority-Muslim country.

My perspective comes from firsthand experience living and working among Muslims in majority-Muslim countries. Since I was 17, I have regularly traveled there to minister, share the gospel, and support mission schools, charities, and hospitals. Therefore, I believe this discussion should end, as my insights are not based on secondhand information like yours!

That's where things like polling data, stats, and overall outcomes need to be given the proper weight in discussions instead of just anecdotes.

Personal anecdotes can be used to amplify or downplay themes and narratives.

I've personally been to East Cleveland easily hundreds of times, and haven't been shot while I was there. That doesn't negate the reality that there's a problem of gun violence in East Cleveland that's way higher than out in the burbs. (People who have been, or have a relative who has been would probably have a much stronger narrative in the opposite direction)

Polling & aggregated statistics would indicate that there are some problems that are largely unique to Islam, as well as other problems that while aren't unique to Islam, exist to a much higher degree in Islam. That trumps individual anecdotes (going in either direction)

"I lived in an Islam-majority country, and never had any problems...therefore, all of the complaints are just hype" is reminiscent of "My grandpa smoked 2 packs a day, and lived to be 82 and never got cancer...therefore, all of the anti-smoking stuff is just hype"
 
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That's where things like polling data, stats, and overall outcomes need to be given the proper weight in discussions instead of just anecdotes.

Personal anecdotes can be used to amplify or downplay themes and narratives.

I've personally been to East Cleveland easily hundreds of times, and haven't been shot while I was there. That doesn't negate the reality that there's a problem of gun violence in East Cleveland that's way higher than out in the burbs. (People who have been, or have a relative who has been would probably have a much stronger narrative in the opposite direction)

Polling & aggregated statistics would indicate that there are some problems that are largely unique to Islam, as well as other problems that while aren't unique to Islam, exist to a much higher degree in Islam. That trumps individual anecdotes (going in either direction)

"I lived in an Islam-majority country, and never had any problems...therefore, all of the complaints are just hype" is reminiscent of "My grandpa smoked 2 packs a day, and lived to be 82 and never got cancer...therefore, all of the anti-smoking stuff is just hype"

I won't share polling data or personal anecdotes; I'll share the actual statistics I posted in #68.


In USA there are 300 Full time Islamic school. compare to


Bangladesh-91% population Muslim vs 0.30% Christian. yet Bangladesh has over 1500 Christians schools and colleges.

Pakistan: 96% Muslims and 1.6% Christian. Pakistan is known as the country of Islamic extremist. yet Pakistan has over 450 Christians schools and colleges.

Malaysia : 64% Muslim vs 9% Christian , yet Malaysia has over 400 Christians schools and colleges.
Similar story in other country.

These statistics are consistent with my four decades of volunteer experience at Christian schools and hospitals in Bangladesh, Pakistan, and other Muslim-majority countries. Furthermore, I believe that approximately half of the Christians participating in this forum belong to churches that support American missionaries, doctors, and educators who serve in many of these schools and hospitals.

The argument that Muslims are inherently intolerant and, therefore, should not be given opportunities in America is not supported by either my personal experience or by the factual evidence on the ground. My observations, drawn from years of involvement in Christian educational and medical institutions across Muslim-majority countries, directly contradict this narrative. The statistics I have shared further demonstrate that, despite being in the minority, Christian communities in countries such as Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Malaysia have established and operated hundreds of schools and colleges.

It appears that a country guaranteeing religious freedom in its constitution faces more challenges opening Muslim schools in Alabama than Christian schools do in Muslim-majority Dhaka, Bangladesh.
 
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I won't share polling data or personal anecdotes; I'll share the actual statistics I posted in #68.


In USA there are 300 Full time Islamic school. compare to


Bangladesh-91% population Muslim vs 0.30% Christian. yet Bangladesh has over 1500 Christians schools and colleges.

Pakistan: 96% Muslims and 1.6% Christian. Pakistan is known as the country of Islamic extremist. yet Pakistan has over 450 Christians schools and colleges.

Malaysia : 64% Muslim vs 9% Christian , yet Malaysia has over 400 Christians schools and colleges.
Similar story in other country.

These statistics are consistent with my four decades of volunteer experience at Christian schools and hospitals in Bangladesh, Pakistan, and other Muslim-majority countries. Furthermore, I believe that approximately half of the Christians participating in this forum belong to churches that support American missionaries, doctors, and educators who serve in many of these schools and hospitals.

The argument that Muslims are inherently intolerant and, therefore, should not be given opportunities in America is not supported by either my personal experience or by the factual evidence on the ground. My observations, drawn from years of involvement in Christian educational and medical institutions across Muslim-majority countries, directly contradict this narrative. The statistics I have shared further demonstrate that, despite being in the minority, Christian communities in countries such as Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Malaysia have established and operated hundreds of schools and colleges.

It appears that a country guaranteeing religious freedom in its constitution faces more challenges opening Muslim schools in Alabama than Christian schools do in Muslim-majority Dhaka, Bangladesh.
Muslim countries where Christians are persecuted

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Muslim-majority countries (where Islam is the predominant religion) feature prominently in reports on Christian persecution, often due to a combination of Islamic oppression (state-enforced Sharia laws, blasphemy/apostasy penalties), societal pressure (family/community rejection of converts), and violence from extremist groups (e.g., al-Shabaab, Boko Haram, Fulani militants). According to Open Doors' World Watch List 2025, which ranks the 50 countries with the most extreme persecution of Christians based on violence, pressure in daily life, and restrictions, many of the top offenders are Muslim-majority nations in the Middle East, North Africa, and Sub-Saharan Africa.Key Muslim-Majority Countries with Severe PersecutionHere are some of the highest-ranked ones (focusing on extreme or very high levels):
  • Somalia (Rank 2) — Nearly 100% Muslim; al-Shabaab militants target Christians, especially converts, who are often killed on the spot. Christianity is seen as a betrayal of clan and Somali identity.
  • Libya (Rank 3) — Post-collapse chaos allows militias to harass and detain Christians; converts face death threats, and proselytizing is forbidden.
  • Eritrea (Rank 4) — Though not exclusively Islamic-driven, non-recognized Christian groups face imprisonment; Muslim-background converts experience intense family pressure.
  • Yemen (Rank 5) — Houthi-controlled areas enforce strict Sharia; converts risk execution, and Christians face discrimination in aid and healthcare.
  • Sudan (Rank 8) — Islamic laws and ongoing conflict target Christians; churches are attacked, and converts are ostracized or killed.
  • Pakistan (Rank 7) — Blasphemy laws are weaponized against Christians; mob violence, forced marriages, and abductions of Christian girls are common.
  • Iran (Rank 9) — The regime views Christian converts as threats to national security; arrests, imprisonment, and house church raids are routine.
  • Afghanistan (Rank 10, previously higher) — Under Taliban rule, no public Christianity is allowed; converts face death from family or authorities.
  • Nigeria (Rank 6 in some prior lists, high violence) — Northern Muslim-majority states see Fulani militant and Boko Haram attacks killing thousands of Christians annually; the deadliest country for Christians.
Other notable Muslim-majority countries on the list include:
  • Syria
  • Iraq
  • Algeria
  • Mali
  • Morocco
  • Bangladesh
  • Tunisia
Broader ContextOpen Doors reports over 380 million Christians face high/extreme persecution globally in 2025, with Sub-Saharan Africa seeing rising jihadist violence. Sources like the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) and State Department reports corroborate issues in countries like Iran, Pakistan, and Nigeria, citing government discrimination, failure to protect minorities, and non-state actor violence.Persecution varies: converts from Islam often face the worst (family rejection, death threats), while historical Christian communities may experience discrimination but less violence. Not all Muslim-majority countries persecute Christians severely (e.g., Jordan, Lebanon, or Indonesia have lower levels or dropped off recent lists due to improvements). Reports emphasize that while extremists drive much violence, state laws and societal norms in many places enable it.These findings come from independent monitoring by organizations like Open Doors (Christian NGO, audited externally) and USCIRF (U.S. government commission), focusing on documented incidents of violence, arrests, church closures, and discrimination.
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Do Muslims in America face anything like this?
 
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It is Islamists who are the least tolerant and the most dangerous. Statistics show the places with the highest number of persecution are all Islamic. It is divided between Sub-Saharan Islamic countries and Middle Eastern. The Americas are the lowest.

With the propensity of Islamists for lying, violence and political manipulation it makes it very difficult to determine if the group will radicalize or not. And right now these are the types that have moved into Europe and are causing problems there. They are also coming here. So we can't just blindly accept them or their schools. Because we just don't know. Care and real caution are called for.

Because the Christian schools in Islamic countries are not radicalizing people the same way.
 
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Do you have any testimonies from any ex-Muslims who aren't selling books? Fear sells and it seems every ex-Muslim that does these types of interviews is doing it for financial gain.
Thats a terrible assumption to make. If you listen to her story you might realize she wrote to tell the story of the horrors of Islamism. Because she lived it. Would she be more believable if her story didn't make her book didn't sell?

I suppose anyone who wrote a book about their life in a concentration camp, or as a POW was all about selling fear or disgust too?

It seems you may be just another unwilling to hear what goes on.
I agree; however, the vast majority of Muslims are not Islamists, and those who are, especially in the West, do not support using violence to achieve political goals or change the style of government they live under. In fact, many of the Muslims migrating to the West are escaping from oppression and conflict by violent Islamists in their country. They don't want to bring what they are escaping from to where they are now.
Yet they are bringing their extremism with them. There are two types of Islamists. There are the ones who use violence and force to bring change and those who wield the political sword to bring about their control and Islamic melding of church and state. At this point, in the west it is usually the latter with small doses of the former. They use the desire of westerners kindness and desire to be seen as good people against them. Trotting out the whole Islamophobia accusation against those who might have any issue with what they are doing. And people are not wanting to be accused of that will buckle under to avoid even the appearance of it. We saw this on full display when the poor pastor was raked over the coals with these accusations over his voicing of some concerns.
 
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In light of these Islamic extremist attacks in the USA, I think skepticism of Islamic relations in America is understandable and not. “ Islamophobia”. It isn’t a perfect world and selective tolerance likes to remind the less enlightened but a perfect world would probably exist if the rights of the less enlightened were revoked on the other hand.



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Muslim countries where Christians are persecuted

Searching the web
59 results
Muslim-majority countries (where Islam is the predominant religion) feature prominently in reports on Christian persecution, often due to a combination of Islamic oppression (state-enforced Sharia laws, blasphemy/apostasy penalties), societal pressure (family/community rejection of converts), and violence from extremist groups (e.g., al-Shabaab, Boko Haram, Fulani militants). According to Open Doors' World Watch List 2025, which ranks the 50 countries with the most extreme persecution of Christians based on violence, pressure in daily life, and restrictions, many of the top offenders are Muslim-majority nations in the Middle East, North Africa, and Sub-Saharan Africa.Key Muslim-Majority Countries with Severe PersecutionHere are some of the highest-ranked ones (focusing on extreme or very high levels):
  • Somalia (Rank 2) — Nearly 100% Muslim; al-Shabaab militants target Christians, especially converts, who are often killed on the spot. Christianity is seen as a betrayal of clan and Somali identity.
  • Libya (Rank 3) — Post-collapse chaos allows militias to harass and detain Christians; converts face death threats, and proselytizing is forbidden.
  • Eritrea (Rank 4) — Though not exclusively Islamic-driven, non-recognized Christian groups face imprisonment; Muslim-background converts experience intense family pressure.
  • Yemen (Rank 5) — Houthi-controlled areas enforce strict Sharia; converts risk execution, and Christians face discrimination in aid and healthcare.
  • Sudan (Rank 8) — Islamic laws and ongoing conflict target Christians; churches are attacked, and converts are ostracized or killed.
  • Pakistan (Rank 7) — Blasphemy laws are weaponized against Christians; mob violence, forced marriages, and abductions of Christian girls are common.
  • Iran (Rank 9) — The regime views Christian converts as threats to national security; arrests, imprisonment, and house church raids are routine.
  • Afghanistan (Rank 10, previously higher) — Under Taliban rule, no public Christianity is allowed; converts face death from family or authorities.
  • Nigeria (Rank 6 in some prior lists, high violence) — Northern Muslim-majority states see Fulani militant and Boko Haram attacks killing thousands of Christians annually; the deadliest country for Christians.
Other notable Muslim-majority countries on the list include:
  • Syria
  • Iraq
  • Algeria
  • Mali
  • Morocco
  • Bangladesh
  • Tunisia
Broader ContextOpen Doors reports over 380 million Christians face high/extreme persecution globally in 2025, with Sub-Saharan Africa seeing rising jihadist violence. Sources like the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) and State Department reports corroborate issues in countries like Iran, Pakistan, and Nigeria, citing government discrimination, failure to protect minorities, and non-state actor violence.Persecution varies: converts from Islam often face the worst (family rejection, death threats), while historical Christian communities may experience discrimination but less violence. Not all Muslim-majority countries persecute Christians severely (e.g., Jordan, Lebanon, or Indonesia have lower levels or dropped off recent lists due to improvements). Reports emphasize that while extremists drive much violence, state laws and societal norms in many places enable it.These findings come from independent monitoring by organizations like Open Doors (Christian NGO, audited externally) and USCIRF (U.S. government commission), focusing on documented incidents of violence, arrests, church closures, and discrimination.
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Do Muslims in America face anything like this?

I acknowledge all of these points. It is a recognized fact that Christian persecution occurs in certain regions within the Islamic world. In some Muslim-majority countries, preaching the gospel is not only prohibited but can also pose serious risks to personal safety.

You're correct; such persecution wouldn't occur in the USA. However, comparing America—with its rule of law and religious freedom—to Syria is neither appropriate nor reasonable.

As I have mentioned before—and as this thread demonstrates—it is easier to establish a Christian school led by an American missionary in rural Bangladesh, such as Malumghat, than to open an Islamic school in Alabama.
 
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I acknowledge all of these points. It is a recognized fact that Christian persecution occurs in certain regions within the Islamic world. In some Muslim-majority countries, preaching the gospel is not only prohibited but can also pose serious risks to personal safety.

You're correct; such persecution wouldn't occur in the USA. However, comparing America—with its rule of law and religious freedom—to Syria is neither appropriate nor reasonable.

As I have mentioned before—and as this thread demonstrates—it is easier to establish a Christian school led by an American missionary in rural Bangladesh, such as Malumghat, than to open an Islamic school in Alabama.
We have freedom of religion, Tubberville is wrong and ultimately the Muslims will prevail.
You can't tell them that they can't build a larger school when it's a private school.
In Dearborn Michigan they have taken over the entire town and they have plans elsewhere to build a Muslim only community.
They really are not restricted that much in the US
 
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