State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

essentialsaltes · Thursday at 3:07 PM

Plans proposed by the K-12 school were denied by a Hoover zoning commission.

In a statement, the Academy said objections to their plan were “…unrelated to zoning criteria and instead reflected harmful stereotypes and conspiracy theories about Muslims and Islamic institutions.”

[Article provides ample evidence of the harmful stereotypes and conspiracy theories]

“We really just don’t have a place for such here,” said Rep. Butler. “Where you’re screaming ‘kill the infidel, death to America.’ That’s just not welcome here. There are plenty of Muslim countries that would welcome that.”

“What they’re doing is going against our Constitution,” said Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) in an interview with Breanna Morella on Infowars, speaking out against the Academy. “I mean, you can’t preach hate, you can’t preach death. ‘Kill all infidels. Kill all Christians.’ You can’t do that.”

durangodawood · Thursday at 4:07 PM

We have an actual US Senator interviewing on Infowars???

No wonder this country is in such a muddle. People with real power having no sense of whats real. I guess thats what we get when enough of the voters are similarly afflicted.

(Im "holding space" for the possibility this didnt even happen. Its almost too absurd.)

essentialsaltes · Thursday at 4:11 PM

durangodawood said:
We have an actual US Senator interviewing on Infowars???

Well, the highest degree he's earned is Coach. We can't expect much.

durangodawood · Thursday at 4:35 PM

essentialsaltes said:
Well, the highest degree he's earned is Coach. We can't expect much.

Hey he has a BS in physical education. I looked it up. Tho this is America where coach > teacher.

Plus you dont need a degree to have your head screwed on properly.

iluvatar5150 · Thursday at 4:36 PM

"Why does everybody keep calling us bigots?"

Maria Billingsley · 2025-12-05T08:08:43-0600

essentialsaltes said:
“I mean, you can’t preach hate, you can’t preach death.

Just a reminder.....Who really preaches hate and death?
Let us reason please!

Quote fron Donakd Trump:
"They contribute nothing. I don't want them in our country. I'll be honest with you... We're going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into our country. Ilhan Omar is garbage. She's garbage. Her friends are garbage. These aren't people that work. These aren't people that say, let's go. Come on, let's make this place great."

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"I don't know if you call them people. In some cases, they're not people, in my opinion.They're not people, these are animals."

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-12-05T08:39:56-0600

Many of us contribute, either directly or indirectly, to supporting Christian missionary work around the world, including in countries with a Muslim majority. Christian missionaries establish schools and hospitals in rural areas of these regions, providing assistance to local communities while also sharing Gospel. .

Consider how difficult it is for Christian missionaries in Muslim countries when local newspapers run stories like this about the USA.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-05T08:56:12-0600

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
Consider how difficult it is for Christian missionaries in Muslim countries when local newspapers run stories like this about the USA.

I certainly consider that the US is not a theocracy, and this kind of bigoted baloney should not have a place in our government.

RileyG · 2025-12-05T16:31:14-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
"Why does everybody keep calling us bigots?"

I think many people are misinformed on Islam. Not on purpose. Most Muslims are peaceful people.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-12-05T17:58:30-0600

RileyG said:
I think many people are misinformed on Islam. Not on purpose.

The people doing the misinforming are definitely doing it on purpose.

RileyG · 2025-12-05T18:27:21-0600

iluvatar5150 said:
The people doing the misinforming are definitely doing it on purpose.

Yes, I can agree to that.

ThatRobGuy · 2025-12-05T19:16:19-0600

There's two different facets of this discussion.

A) Equality under the law

B) Cultural implications

A - is pretty cut and dry, if they're flat out saying they would have no issues with a Methodist or Lutheran Church/School doing the same, but they don't want a Muslim Church/School doing it, then that's a pretty clear case of unequal application of the law, and they're in the wrong.

B - this one's a little more murky.

1) Because even though it's not politically correct to say out loud, the reality is that Islam does come bundled with some certain hostilities toward non-Muslims. (however, to dovetail that into point A, you could probably find some instances where that's true of other religions that operate schools as well)

2) If a deeply conservative Christian religious entity had their eyes set on expansion in a traditionally progressive area, does anyone think that would happen without significant pushback?

While this example isn't perfect "feature parity", it does highlight an example of where progressive areas are willing to "fight" against groups that don't share the same values of the region.

Per NPR/PBS:

Boy Scouts on the Verge of Losing California Tax Breaks | KQED

California lawmakers are on the verge of passing bill that would punish groups for LGBT discrimination.

www.kqed.org

California hasn't been shy about using institutional power to limit the influence of groups or organizations that cut against their values via preferential access to regulatory frameworks.

rjs330 · 2025-12-06T02:56:18-0600

We HAVE to have an HONEST conversation. Just shouting "bigotry" doesn't work anymore. Islamism is the biggest and most deadly threat in the world today.

Those that believe in Islam are causing great harm in the western world because its holds the very thing that people are concerned about. The mesh of religion and government. People are concerned so much over Christian Nationalism that they are missing the real threat to western democracies, Islam and the importation of those from nations that govern and live in that world.

They come and have no intention of assimilating. Instead they come and re-create that which they left. Separate communities, separate laws and separate schools. All under the religion of Islam.

Europe has started to take notice of all the problems, but it's almost too late. There are already places in the US where it is too late.

Let's hope we can put a stop to it in America before we find ourselves like places in Europe, trying to recover. We see places like Minnesota and Dearborn and see what is coming if we don't stop it.

Larniavc · 2025-12-06T04:09:56-0600

rjs330 said:
Islamism is the biggest and most deadly threat in the world today.

More than malaria? Or climate change? Or the surprise arrival of a catastrophically large meteorite impact?

Do you mean ‘biggest threat to Christianity’?

I know a bunch of Muslims and they are no different to Christians insofar as they believe in a version of the Abrahamic faith.

They are certainly not shouting ‘Death to the non-religious’ down my way.

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