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Sure; we are not required to make sacrifices and offerings now, in this Church Age. There is no Temple, so it is impossible anyway.
But there Will be a new Temple in Jerusalem in the end times and there will be sacrifices and offerings made in it. As Prophesied in Ezekiel 40-46.

2 Thess 2:4 is proof of this and Daniel 9:27, Revelation 13:5-7, confirm it.
An understanding of what God requires of His people, is needed, to be His witnesses and His Light to the nations. Isaiah 56:1-8
Ezekiel is having a vision that appears as a city, not a material city, a spiritual city fulfilled in Christ. After all, the last verse names the city.

Ezekiel 48:
35The perimeter of the city will be 18,000 cubits, and from that day on the name of the city will be:
THE LORD IS THERE.”


All we have to do now, is find out where the Lord said He would be and as Ezekiel said, would be from that day on.
Matthew 18:18-20
Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. / Again, I tell you truly that if two of you on the earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven. / For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them.
Ephesians 2:19-22
Therefore you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of God’s household, / built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone. / In Him the whole building is fitted together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord. ...
 
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2 Co 12:2 matters not whether it was in his body/spirit or in his spirit only when he was "caught up to the third heaven."
It matters a lot if Paul was in a vision/dream like the verse mentions, or if it was a physical event.
I have no need to disbelieve Paul.
So do you not believe Paul later on when he penned a letter to Timothy in 1 Timothy 6 ?

..the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 who only hath immortality, dwelling in
the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see:
to whom be honour and power everlasting.

Paul would not have said this if he had already been physically to heaven, and seen God in person.
 
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It matters a lot if Paul was in a vision/dream like the verse mentions, or if it was a physical event.

So do you not believe Paul later on when he penned a letter to Timothy in 1 Timothy 6 ?
No more than you do not. . .
..the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 who only hath immortality, dwelling in
the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see:
to whom be honour and power everlasting.

Paul would not have said this if he had already been to heaven and seen God in person.
Who said Paul has seen anyone other than the Lord, Jesus, in person?

In Paul's writings, the Lord is Christ.
 
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Ezekiel may not be referring to the NEW Covenant.
All of Ezekiel 40 to 48, is describing how the Lords Christian peoples will live in all of the Holy Land, under the New Covenant with God. They will build a new Temple and worship Jesus in it, making sacrifices and offerings as is clearly Written.
ALL before Jesus Returns for His Millennium reign.

Any objections to this scenario, are flat out denials of scripture.
 
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Any objections to this scenario, are flat out denials of scripture.
No,they're denials of your interpretation of Scripture.

Where did Jesus say that there would be a 3rd temple and animal sacrifices would begin again?
Why would they need to when Jesus, the Lamb of God, fulfilled the law?
 
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All of Ezekiel 40 to 48, is describing how the Lords Christian peoples will live in all of the Holy Land, under the New Covenant with God. They will build a new Temple and worship Jesus in it, making sacrifices and offerings as is clearly Written.
ALL before Jesus Returns for His Millennium reign.

Any objections to this scenario, are flat out denials of scripture.
And you should always give
It matters a lot if Paul was in a vision/dream like the verse mentions, or if it was a physical event.

So do you not believe Paul later on when he penned a letter to Timothy in 1 Timothy 6 ?

..the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 who only hath immortality, dwelling in
the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see:
to whom be honour and power everlasting.

Paul would not have said this if he had already been physically to heaven, and seen God in person.
And going to the THIRD Heaven. IS NOT. like going to where Christ. is seated next to. to the FATHER IN HEAVEN .

And PARADISE is in. the third heaven in 2 Cor 12:1-5 and where we GOVERN the. UNIVERSE where we will judge

ANGELS !! And EZE 40-48 when feral does not have the word CHRISTIAN PEOPLE IN THOSE VERSES !!

dan p
 
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Rebuilding the Temple:
The prophetic Scriptures clearly predict that the Third Temple will be built and the sacrifices reinstated, in the final years leading up to the Return of the Messiah. It is clear, too, that there will be more than just the Jewish people living in the Land of Greater Israel. All the Israelites from all 12 tribes of Israel, plus those grafted in, will migrate to New Israel soon after the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the terrible Day of fire and storms, that will clear and cleanse most of the Middle East.

The place of the new Temple, will be to the North of the existing Dome of the Rock, because this is in the direct line of the now sealed Eastern gate. The Bible, the Torah, and Josephus, all agree that the Temple was in that location.

The Jewish sage, Moses Maimonides, known as Rambam, declared that the Temple will be rebuilt and the exiles from around the world gathered back into the Promised Land.

The Messiah will appear and re-establish the glory of King David.

In the Talmud Yerushalmi, Rabbi Acha says; The Beit Hamikdash [Holy Temple] will be built first, before the advent of the Kingdom of David.

The Pnei Moshe states; The Land will be settled first, then the people will become prosperous, after that they will build the Temple and finally, the Messiah will come.

In the Mar’eh Punim the Gaon Moshe Margolis wrote that when Jacob predicted the future of Judah, he foretold that the Temple would be rebuilt first, then the Messiah would come. But the Jews are not prophesied to build the new Temple.

The whole scenario of the end times, has a logical sequence to it. Now in the latter days,, we can see how things are happening that will see a confederation of Islamic states and entities that will be motivated to get rid of the ‘ cancer ‘ in their midst, that is the State of Israel. The moment of their attack, is the moment that God will intervene. This great Day of the Lord, will take the form of a natural event: a Coronal Mass Ejection, a massive sunstrike of cosmic particles, causing intense heat and electrical storms. The attacking armies will be destroyed by their own weaponry, as they all explode before delivery. This literally fulfils the prayer in Psalms 83:13-18

Many prophesies speak of the regeneration of the Land of Greater Israel, “in a very short while”, Isaiah 29:17, after this great clearance and cleansing of the entire area.

Christian Israelites- “His people, who love the Lord and follow in His ways” will then gather “on the mountains of Samaria”. This is described in Ezekiel 20:34-38, Psalms 107
Over 40 prophesies describe how God’s holy people, every faithful Christian, will live in peace and security in their own Land. At last, they will be as God originally intended, “a light to the nations”, they will “exemplify My Holiness for all to see”. Ezekiel 39:27-29 [The attack by Gog/ Magog will come during this period]

WE will build the Third Temple, Zechariah 6:15, and “the splendour of this latter House will surpass that of the former”. Haggai 2:9 Zechariah 8:9-13 has wonderful promises of restoration and redemption; Courage! Do not lose heart!
Ref: logostelos.info
 
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Ezekiel is having a vision that appears as a city, not a material city, a spiritual city fulfilled in Christ. After all, the last verse names the city.

Ezekiel 48:
35The perimeter of the city will be 18,000 cubits, and from that day on the name of the city will be:
THE LORD IS THERE.”


All we have to do now, is find out where the Lord said He would be and as Ezekiel said, would be from that day on.
Matthew 18:18-20
Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. / Again, I tell you truly that if two of you on the earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven. / For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them.
Ephesians 2:19-22
Therefore you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of God’s household, / built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone. / In Him the whole building is fitted together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord. ...
AND we , the Body. of Christ will taken to be with Christ as written. in 1 Thess 4:14-17 then 2 Thess 2:4-9 there will

the building of the temple where the anti-christ will sit saying. that he is god !!

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Rebuilding the Temple:
The prophetic Scriptures clearly predict that the Third Temple will be built and the sacrifices reinstated,
But Jesus didn't say that his followers would do this, nor that it would be needed.
WE will build the Third Temple, Zechariah 6:15, and “the splendour of this latter House will surpass that of the former”.
I doubt very much that Christians - who ARE temples of the Holy Spirit - will build a new temple to God. Nor will they have any interest in whether or not it surpasses the glory of the first.
 
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But Jesus didn't say that his followers would do this, nor that it would be needed.

I doubt very much that Christians - who ARE temples of the Holy Spirit - will build a new temple to God. Nor will they have any interest in whether or not it surpasses the glory of the first.
Paul tells us that it will be Gods Temple' 2 Thess 2:4
Daniel 9:27 says there will be a Temple in the end times, in operation as the ancient Temples were.

Why should any Christian object to a new Temple in Jerusalem? We build Churchs and Cathedrals to worship the Lord in.
That we Christians are now the Spiritual Temple of God, in no way precludes a new physical Temple, as end time Prophesy says there will be.
 
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Paul tells us that it will be Gods Temple' 2 Thess 2:4
We ARE God's temple.
The Holy Spirit, God himself, lives in us.
Why should any Christian object to a new Temple in Jerusalem?
I don't - they can do what they want.
We build Churchs and Cathedrals to worship the Lord in.
Yes and if it was anything to do with me, we wouldn't.

We can worship the Lord anywhere. After Pentecost, his Spirit was poured out on all believers.
That we Christians are now the Spiritual Temple of God, in no way precludes a new physical Temple, as end time Prophesy says there will be.
As I said, they can do as they wish.
I'm not in Israel.
 
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Many wrong beliefs have been accepted by Christians.
This forum provides evidence that this posted statement is very true.
Since many voices, voices that those who listen to Jesus will not pay heed to,
are speaking here, there, everywhere,
it is impossible to properly resolve anything here.
 
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We ARE God's temple.
I agree, That has been the case since 70AD.
Now, the many prophesies which prove there will be a new Temple in Jerusalem, will be fulfilled.
I'm not in Israel.
Not yet, but as a faithful Christian, you will go there in the end times and worship the Lord in His Temple. Isaiah 56:1-8, Revelation 3:12
 
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This forum provides evidence that this posted statement is very true.
Since many voices, voices that those who listen to Jesus will not pay heed to,
are speaking here, there, everywhere,
it is impossible to properly resolve anything here.
It requires fervent prayer for understanding, coupled with the rejection of all preconceived beliefs.

In Bible prophecy we are told that people will deliberately reject these:
1/ That God created the world, which at first was empty and void. Genesis 1:1-2
2/ That God once judged this world with a global cataclysmic flood. Genesis 7:1-24
3/ That God is coming back to judge this world again, but next time it will be by fire. Isaiah 66:15-16, 2 Peter 3:7

Notice that the emphasis here is on a deliberate rejection, or a wilful ignorance. It is a deliberate action on a person’s part not to believe. Romans 1:19-25
People often ask the question: ‘If there is so much evidence that God created the world and sent a global cataclysmic flood called Noah’s Flood, then surely all scientists would believe this?’ The answer is given in Matthew 11:25

It is simply not a matter of evidence to convince people, because people don’t want to be convinced. There is ample evidence to convince anyone that God is Creator, so much so that we are condemned for not believing. Furthermore, Romans 1:18 also tells us that people ‘suppress the truth in unrighteousness’.
It isn’t a matter of there not being enough evidence to convince people that the Bible is true, because they don’t want to believe the Bible anyway. 2 Peter 3:3-4

The reason for this is obvious. If people believed in the God of the Bible, then they would have to submit themselves to His authority and obey the rules He has laid down. However, every human being suffers from the same problem, the sin which Adam committed back there in the Garden of Eden, is a ‘dis-ease’ which we all inherit. Adam’s sin was rebellion against God’s authority. Likewise, people everywhere today are in rebellion against God, so to admit that the Bible is true would be an admission of their own sinful and rebellious nature, and of their need to be born again by cleansing through the blood of Christ.

It is easy to see this wilful ignorance in action when watching debates over the creation/evolution issue. In most instances the evolutionists are not interested in the wealth of data, evidence and information the creationists put forward. Often evolutionists attack creationists by attempting to destroy their credibility. They are not interested in facts because they are totally committed to their religious faith called evolution.

And, as Jesus Christ in Matthew 24:37-39 uses the event of Noah’s Flood as a warning that God has judged and will judge again, they would have to agree that God is going to come back as Judge and next time He will punish by fire.

Sinful man in rebellion against God does not want to admit that he must stand before the God of Creation one day and account for his life. Thus, in rejecting Creation and Noah’s Flood and claiming ‘scientific’ evidence that supposedly supports his own belief, he becomes comfortable in not thinking about coming judgment. But, just as God created the world by His Word and sent the Flood, so God will judge this world, once again ‘as in the days of Noah’: by sending fire. Matthew 3:12, Luke 12:49

The fossil record stands as an undeniable memorial to the fact that God has judged by water. All of this should warn each man, woman and child that just as God has kept His Word in the past concerning judgment, so He will keep His Word in the future coming judgment, in His Day of fiery wrath that will severely affect everyone alive. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8, Zephaniah 3:8, Revelation 6:12-17, Revelation 14:18-20
 
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Not yet, but as a faithful Christian, you will go there in the end times and worship the Lord in His Temple. Isaiah 56:1-8, Revelation 3:12
Doubt it.
I'm not getting a passport yet, that's for sure.
 
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Doubt it.
I'm not getting a passport yet, that's for sure.
You won't need a passport, only your faith in the Lord for His protection and help.
Read Psalms 107 & Isaiah 66:18b-21, Romans 9:24-26, Ezekiel 34:11-16,+

There is plenty of Prophetic evidence of how we Christian peoples will occupy all of the Holy Land. Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:5-7, prove our presence there in the end times.
 
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There is plenty of Prophetic evidence of how we Christian peoples will occupy all of the Holy Land. Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:5-7, prove our presence there in the end times.
But Jesus didn't teach it.
 
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AND we , the Body. of Christ will taken to be with Christ as written. in 1 Thess 4:14-17 then 2 Thess 2:4-9 there will

the building of the temple where the anti-christ will sit saying. that he is god !!

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Actually, Jesus prayed that the church would not be taken out of the world,
John 17:15I do not ask that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from evil....
17:20I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message, (2000 years and counting that prayer has proven to be answered).
The grammar of Thess doesn't fit your understanding as Paul was speaking to the Thess, not to us. Scripture is for us but not to us. There's no inference to a future "physical" temple anywhere to be found. It is a 100% assumed doctrine. In fact there is no more "biblical" Old Covenant Judaism as they were utterly destroyed from the people of God if they didn't listen to Christ. Acts 3:23 and "physical" Jerusalem was cast out with her destruction. Galatians 4:21-31.
 
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But Jesus didn't teach it.
Jesus was the Supernatural Rock that travelled with ancient Israel to the Promised Land. 1 Corinthians 10:4
Soon: He will guide His people into their inheritance, where they will be His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10, John 15:27 and His Light to the nations. Isaiah 42:6, Matthew 5:14-16
Romans 9:24-26, reiterates the Prophecy of Hosea 1:10-11, where Gods faithful peoples are seen to be present in the same place as ancient Israel was.
 
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Jesus was the Supernatural Rock that travelled with ancient Israel to the Promised Land. 1 Corinthians 10:4
Soon: He will guide His people into their inheritance, where they will be His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10, John 15:27 and His Light to the nations. Isaiah 42:6, Matthew 5:14-16
But he never taught that his followers would go to the Holy Land before he returned, build another temple and re-introduce sacrifices.

Jesus was the sacrifice made once and for all - why would any of us need to reintroduce sacrifices in a Jewish temple in Israel?
 
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