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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
You almost have to wonder if the Democratic Party is secretly trying to lose.
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I must not have seen whatever media these reports showed up in. So I still have no idea who you're talking about. The only criminal defended by any major US political party that I know of is Donald Trump.
I tend to check out a pretty wide variety of sources, I don't depend on a single media outlet, but, again, I don't have time to view everything from everywhere. If you'd care to share this information you have, then perhaps we'll both know what you're talking about.
-- A2SG, or you can let it remain mysterious....your call, really....
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Simply because I don't know what issue that poster is referring to? Wow, who knew I had such power over the party??
-- A2SG, if only I could use this power for good and not evil....
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Ignorance is not a super power, nor is it anything to boast about. They have been so radicalized by their own propaganda and their hatred for Trump that any hope of reasonable discussion is gone. All that is left is to vote them out of existence in hopes that they crawl back into their echo chambered safe spaces and leave the rest of the country alone as their radical ideas fades off into fringe obscurity like it is 1996.
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Y'know, when I continue to say I have no idea what someone is talking about, and instead of simply explaining, even with a simple link, they continue to avoid answering, what can I conclude but there's nothing to the claim?
Until I receive some actual information, that will remain my conclusion.
Yeah, yeah. You don't like Democrats. Film at eleven.
-- A2SG, next up, Corky with sports.....
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Do you know who the President of the United States is? Do have you heard about how he has deported MS-13 gang members to El Salvador?
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Is that what this is about?
Since when does decrying the lack of due process guaranteed in our Constitution equate to defending criminals? That's what I've heard, I've yet to hear any Democrats defending any proven criminal acts. Are you under the impression that Democrats are somehow defending convicted felons by expecting the right to due process be respected?
-- A2SG, not like they're electing them to national office or anything....
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THE 2026 HOUSE RACES
There are lots and lots of local races. The national policies of the Democratic Party are largely irrelevant.
BUILDING FOR THE 2028 PRESIDENTIAL RACE
2028 is a long way off. Democrats will likely face Vance or Disantis.
Democrats have a tradition that will be hard to break. After losing an embarrassing race bigly, they seemingly cannot keep the left from determining the candidate. I think that it will be very, very difficult for the left to allow the nomination of anyone that could win. If theoretically, such a candidate were to be nominated, then I would expect the left to support the candidate but not work very hard for him or her (hello Hillary). Of course, this would result in the victory of the Republicans and the left saying that they would have won with their candidate. It is a lose-lose situation for Democrats who are anywhere to the right of Sanders.
There are lots and lots of local races. The national policies of the Democratic Party are largely irrelevant.
BUILDING FOR THE 2028 PRESIDENTIAL RACE
2028 is a long way off. Democrats will likely face Vance or Disantis.
Democrats have a tradition that will be hard to break. After losing an embarrassing race bigly, they seemingly cannot keep the left from determining the candidate. I think that it will be very, very difficult for the left to allow the nomination of anyone that could win. If theoretically, such a candidate were to be nominated, then I would expect the left to support the candidate but not work very hard for him or her (hello Hillary). Of course, this would result in the victory of the Republicans and the left saying that they would have won with their candidate. It is a lose-lose situation for Democrats who are anywhere to the right of Sanders.
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An organization cannot possibly hope to win a national election by catering to a small minority.
Common sense. To gain a majority, you have to address what the majority consider important issues.
Common sense. To gain a majority, you have to address what the majority consider important issues.
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These Are the Voters Who Should Scare Democrats Most
Five years ago, Raymond Teachey voted, as usual, for the Democratic presidential nominee.
But by last fall, Mr. Teachey, an aircraft mechanic from Bucks County, Pa., was rethinking his political allegiances. To him, the Democratic Party seemed increasingly focused on issues of identity at the expense of more tangible day-to-day concerns, such as public safety or the economy.
“Some of them turned their back on their base,” Mr. Teachey, 54, said.
Working-class voters like Mr. Teachey, who supported Joseph R. Biden Jr. in 2020 but either backed President Trump last year or, as Mr. Teachey did, skipped the 2024 presidential election, help explain why Democrats lost pivotal swing counties like Bucks, and vividly illustrate how the traditional Democratic coalition has eroded in the Trump era.
Five years ago, Raymond Teachey voted, as usual, for the Democratic presidential nominee.
But by last fall, Mr. Teachey, an aircraft mechanic from Bucks County, Pa., was rethinking his political allegiances. To him, the Democratic Party seemed increasingly focused on issues of identity at the expense of more tangible day-to-day concerns, such as public safety or the economy.
“Some of them turned their back on their base,” Mr. Teachey, 54, said.
Working-class voters like Mr. Teachey, who supported Joseph R. Biden Jr. in 2020 but either backed President Trump last year or, as Mr. Teachey did, skipped the 2024 presidential election, help explain why Democrats lost pivotal swing counties like Bucks, and vividly illustrate how the traditional Democratic coalition has eroded in the Trump era.
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IMHO no better good can be had than what you are doing to the Democratic Party right now.
Keep going!
Alexandria/Bernie for President/Vice all the way!
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Yeah, just like all the people cheering on Trump running the first time because it made Hillary a lock.
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Hey, don't lay the woes of the Democratic party on me. I've been vocal about my issues with the party for a long time now.
We could do worse. We have. Heck, we currently are.
-- A2SG, I know you meant that ironically, but either one of them could bring some much needed change and leadership to the party...and the country....
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