Science A Conspiracy?

Btodd said:

Hey, I understand gravity. You can, too.


Btodd

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Not "as well" as you, sir.

Its not the science that's the problem, its the people behind the science. Science itself is OK but some use science for the wrong reasons. Or they put all their trust and faith in science to have all the answers. Because science is based on being able to test things to verify them it makes materialism all important because you can see and touch it to verify it. So I guess everyone is a bit of a scientists in some ways in just living in today's world.

But you can get caught up in materialism and make it the be all and end all. Then you find it hasn't got all the answers your looking for. Thats why as time has gone on and we have more things that are suppose to make us happy and comfortable people seem to be getting more unhappy and depressed. Many have made things their gods and it has let them down badly. But all that glitters is not gold and there is more to life then what we can see and test.

Faith can unlock a door to greater happiness but many cant let go of the world around them and trust in something they cant see and prove. But its only by letting go and letting God that you can find God and what you are looking for.It doesn't mean we should reject everything in this world and become a hobo. Its a matter of priorities and whats most important.
Matthew 6:19-21
“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

stevevw said:

Its not the science that's the problem, its the people behind the science. Science itself is OK but some use science for the wrong reasons. Or they put all their trust and faith in science to have all the answers. Because science is based on being able to test things to verify them it makes materialism all important because you can see and touch it to verify it. So I guess everyone is a bit of a scientists in some ways in just living in today's world.

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The problem you appear to have is that they don't have faith in the same things you do. I don't see why that is a problem.

But you can get caught up in materialism and make it the be all and end all. Then you find it hasn't got all the answers your looking for. Thats why as time has gone on and we have more things that are suppose to make us happy and comfortable people seem to be getting more unhappy and depressed. Many have made things their gods and it has let them down badly. But all that glitters is not gold and there is more to life then what we can see and test.

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I think you are projecting a bit. I think it is you that found answers you didn't like, such as humans being the product of evolution.

Faith can unlock a door to greater happiness but many cant let go of the world around them and trust in something they cant see and prove.

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But is it true?

Loudmouth said:

But is it true?

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It doesn't matter much , I think.Truth doesn't necessarily sets you free , I think.

willbill said:

Am I alone in believing that Science is one of the biggest conspiracies out there?

God states in the N.T., "I will confound their wisdom with foolishness.." Are we witnessing that verse being fulfilled?

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No especially in areas of creation.

willbill said:

Am I alone in believing that Science is one of the biggest conspiracies out there?

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Quoth the person typing his rubbish on a computer to be sent out and viewed over the internet.

Right.

Edial said:

Of course. There are for example some architects and engineers (not many, very few as compared to the 1000s of others) who say that 911 collapse of buildings (including the steel core mesh in 10 seconds ) is a natural result of fires. Completely absurd, especially when the 3rd collapsed building was never hit by a plane.

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I was of the impression that a majority of scientists believed that the collapse of the WTC buildings could only have been caused by transdimensional aliens wielding magical powers.

willbill said:

Yes, and it's frightening to know such dependency.

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There's always the cabin in the woods.

timewerx said:

Mainstream corporate-funded science that is... Their singular goal is how to make more profit.

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Imagine the kind of hubris that makes people want to be paid for their work.

timewerx said:

Independent-natured science are the ones who make the difference - these are often researchers in the sustainability field. They may not have afterburners or hi-fi or HD or digital wizardry but aims to make human society more sustainable, not necessarily more profitable.

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I suspect those paragons like to eat every now and then as well.

timewerx said:

I'm an independent inventor working on alternative sustainable technologies.

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What have you invented so far?

timewerx said:

All of my fundings come from my measly salary as a secretary.

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That's how it starts.

timewerx said:

Ironically, in keeping with the nature of sustainability, my inventions had to be as low-tech and inexpensive as possible, yet deliver cutting edge performance, even exceeding similar products which are 100x more costly.

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Then somebody with money out there ought to be will to come off some money in the hopes that he can sell your work and make more money. So you need to be seeking funding.

timewerx said:

The only problems I face is in my residence. My temporary residence at present is proving to be most difficult somewhere in the middle east and securing some parts I need is next to impossible even if I can afford it.

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All the more reason to try and find a venture capitalist to work with.

Rick Otto said:

The uncertainty principle should keep these science worshippers silent.

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Are you sure?

willbill said:

Am I alone in believing that Science is one of the biggest conspiracies out there?

God states in the N.T., "I will confound their wisdom with foolishness.." Are we witnessing that verse being fulfilled?

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Dogmatic Atheism is pretty much known to be false.

Chapter thirteen of Stephen Hawking's Universe was entitled The Anthropic Principle. Dr. Hawking postulated infinite time even before the most recent Big Bang event of fourteen or so billion years ago. Over infinite time in the past our Creator invented and formed every life form. Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, appears as a Being of Light to many near death experiencers, who can review our lives with us but the corruption in government and big business would take a big hit if Atheism was known to be false.

willbill said:

God states in the N.T., "I will confound their wisdom with foolishness.." Are we witnessing that verse being fulfilled?

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No.