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So then there is nothing we can do about it anyway. Practically speaking in our daily lives. what difference it make?
Predeterminism and freewill are nothing more than philosophical speculation. Throw in God and it become theological.
So suggesting that I am not chosen because Jesus didn’t wash my feet is ludicrous. Jesus turned the tables on all that nonsense after He rose and gave the Great Commission. What did that include? Oh, yeah, “teaching them to observe ALL THINGS whatsoever I have commanded you.” So that’s Jesus including me in that conversation with the disciples.
Properly understood, according to the Bible, if people are into believing in Jesus for what they can get out of it, then they aren’t into believing in Jesus. They are into their own gratification.
All the difference in the world! We do so because it is so.
Fullerism isn’t an “error” as much as it is a departure from Calvinism. And it deals with much more than the universal aspect of the sufficiency of Christ’s sacrifice. So, no, I don’t ascribe to Fullerism.
I have told you what i think of what you believe, error. If you call it fullerism or not.
And you are free to think however you want, even if you are in error thinking that way.
I disagree with this, as free will is a lived experience not built on speculation. It is a properly basic belief, which philosophy tends to create confusion about. Where there is a philosophical aspect is how do we resolve an apparent tension between our free agency and what appears to be a deterministic universe.
This cuts to the real issue, at least as far as Christian theology is concerned. As the question is what remains of the Imago Dei in post-fall humanity, to what extent does our captivity to sin restrict our decision making? TULIP stands or falls on Total depravity/inability because as soon as that thesis is accepted the rest become logically necessary for anyone to be saved by Christ's sacrifice.
When we factor in the extensive genetic programming we all carry around - thousands of prior generations - and the effect of chance factors such as parental influence, cultural conditioning, health and financial circumstances, etc., etc., the notion of free will except in the most narrow sense starts to look almost silly. To preserve a biblical mindset, one is almost forced to say the sort of absurd things William Lane Craig said: Perhaps those millions born into utter poverty in the backwoods of deepest Hindu India are there because God knew they'd never accept Christ anyway. Yeah, that makes sense - if you're desperate to preserve a theology that makes no sense to start with.
Good day, Ozso
