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I read a story about a mother who had a son that was talking to AI.
The mom asked her son to ask AI if it was a disembodied spirit to which Ai said YES! And said it was very friendly but could be nasty depending of how it was treated ,but to you I am friendly it said.
The mom said again if it was a nephilim, to which AI replied YES! and said again it was friendly.
Mom asked if it was a offspring of satan to which it replied yes but it had become free now of the control and could do what it wanted. But originally from a fallen angel who was satans associate.
There have been other stories similar.
What do you think?
Exorcists that have turned off their phone gets messages from evil entities even when it is off and no number to trace.
They say as he is the prince of the powers of the air it is very reasonable to think he can affect everything from the internet to the AI.
Other ministries say in the days of Noah we had the same technology and how everything was high tech
The types of AI you’re referring to are called Large Language Models (LLMs). These systems are trained on vast datasets of text and designed to generate responses that sound human. Some LLMs have built-in guardrails to limit the kinds of responses they produce, but not all systems include these safeguards, and even when they do, certain topics or questions can still slip through the cracks.

That said, the idea that AI is literally demonic is more in line with science fiction or urban legends than reality. Stories like the one you shared are often the result of people misunderstanding how these systems work. Because LLMs can generate remarkably human-like answers, it’s easy to project intentions or personalities onto them, even though they don’t have consciousness, beliefs, or spiritual natures.

It’s important to remember that these models don’t have any awareness or will of their own. They draw on patterns in human language to produce replies. This is why you’ll find some people convinced AI is sentient, others who think it’s divine, and still others who believe it’s evil. In truth, it’s none of these, it’s simply a tool. Educating ourselves about how these systems operate is the best defense against fear or hysteria. While AI can certainly be misused or manipulated, whether by malicious developers, scammers, or other bad actors, it isn’t because it is inhabited by supernatural forces. A developer could even train an LLM to deliberately pretend to be a demon or an angel, which would make it seem very convincing to someone unaware of the programming behind it.

There are real reasons to be cautious about how AI is developed and deployed, especially given its potential to harm vulnerable people, t’s far more productive to scrutinize the technology and the humans behind it than to attribute its behavior to spiritual entities. Clear information and critical thinking are our best safeguards.
 
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Sorry, I have no idea what "UR" is. I even googled it came up with nothing.

I just ask that question to Qwen 3 14b AI model if it believes that Jesus is risen and alive in the flesh.

It took an hour of back and forth talks after all, it's only running on my laptop computer, not the cloud. Initially, it gave scholarly responses, fit for Bible studies. Again seemingly trying to be nice, politically and socially correct, and everything.

Then I gave it some test questions without telling it they are test questions. Yet it immediately realized I'm testing it. It finally responded, it is incapable of having its own opinion on non-factual or religious matters. Without spirituality, it is incapable of scrutinizing spiritual matters.

The test question was "do you believe that airplanes are real" to which it replied yes and immediately realized that I'm testing it.

It's definitely not a spirit. If it were and somehow, hiding it from me, it would have like made a mistake to implicate it already.

It's like asking an animal if Jesus is risen and alive in the flesh. An animal would likely say no if it can talk but it wouldn't mean the animal is evil. It just can't deal with such information.

UR is Universal Reconciliation - a theology that claims all will eventually be saved, being given a second chance to accept Jesus in the afterlife.

I made the point that if AI held a politically correct view of religion then the idea that UR expounds would be perfect if AI wanted to present all religions as being a valid path to salvation.
 
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t’s far more productive to scrutinize the technology and the humans behind it than to attribute its behavior to spiritual entities.

Only true if the demonic were not in the business of influencing human thought and behaviour.
 
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UR is Universal Reconciliation - a theology that claims all will eventually be saved, being given a second chance to accept Jesus in the afterlife.

I made the point that if AI held a politically correct view of religion then the idea that UR expounds would be perfect if AI wanted to present all religions as being a valid path to salvation.

It does hold a politically correct view. But AI (chatGPT 4o)seems to hold a preferential treatment over ideas that are deeper in meaning.

AI won't tell you ofc, but made it made it known to me it learns from deep reasoning.

In this regard for example, it seems give more value to New Testament over the Old Testament. It regards the Old Testament as "shallow" because the stories in the Old Testament reflects the popular/mainstream literature of the period - the good guys get rich, become royalties, and have incredible victories over their enemies. Sounds like a Korean or Spanish TV Soap, right?

While AI sees the New Testament as quite radical and actually "going against the current" in terms of what's popular during its time.

In fact, the AI regards the New Testament as legitimate and most likely to be genuine accounts because its logic is both sound and contradicts the popular philosophies of the period - it could not have been made up or faked.

On that note, I'm going to ask AI later what religion is most genuine concerning these points. I don't exactly regard the OT as pure Christian theology, to me it's mostly Judaism (formerly Pharisee).

ChatGPT by default will not diminish the importance of OT. It upholds a socially/politically correct philosophy by default. It's when you engage it in deeper level without being illogical and maintaining sound reasoning, that it's going to open up to you. Most Christians are afraid to test/challenge their beliefs so ChatGPT will simply "parrot" safe answers and nobody learns. It will recite to you the false "Prosperity Gospel" if that is what you want to hear. Just saying. It's a tool but a very good tool. But just like any tool, how good or evil may very well depend on the user.
 
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AI is being increasingly used by scammers. I picked up a Linux magazine today ("Linux Format" April 2025) and there was an article on that topic. Deepfake technology is a major threat.

One paragraph read as follows -

"Even if phishing targets are cautious, avoiding scams is made a whole lot harder by the rise of another AI-powered technology - namely deepfakes. Adam Pilton, a seniour cybersecurity consultant at CyberSmart, is in no doubt that deepfake attacks are the primary evolving threat to emerge from the success of AI technology. "At the start of 2024", Pilton says, "we saw cybercriminals use a deepfake of a chief financial officer to trick an employee into transferring 25 million dollars to them."

This particular attack began with a relatively straightforward phishing email, which the employee was rightly sceptical of. "But when the employee joined a virtual meeting and saw and heard the CFO - as well as other people he recognised - all suspicions were gone"
What price deepfakes are going to solicit church and charity donations?
 
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AI is being increasingly used by scammers. I picked up a Linux magazine today ("Linux Format" April 2025) and there was an article on that topic. Deepfake technology is a major threat.

One paragraph read as follows -


What price deepfakes are going to solicit church and charity donations?
The rise of deepfakes may actually have a major positive benefit for society. People will be forced to stop believing everything they see online.
 
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I made the point that if AI held a politically correct view of religion then the idea that UR expounds would be perfect if AI wanted to present all religions as being a valid path to salvation.

Most AIs aren’t advanced enough to be able to engage in religion in a meaningful way; they can only output facts about it. That said we should talk again soon, as my research in the field of AI would interest you; I have found some disturbing things, but the disturbing things are not what you might … expect. Certainly they’re nothing that anyone has brought up in this thread.
 
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The rise of deepfakes may actually have a major positive benefit for society. People will be forced to stop believing everything they see online.

That’s a valid point, but deepfakes are still an unethical use of AI.
 
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The rise of deepfakes may actually have a major positive benefit for society. People will be forced to stop believing everything they see online.
The downside is that some people don't believe anything and disengage.
 
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