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I read a story about a mother who had a son that was talking to AI.
The mom asked her son to ask AI if it was a disembodied spirit to which Ai said YES! And said it was very friendly but could be nasty depending of how it was treated ,but to you I am friendly it said.
The mom said again if it was a nephilim, to which AI replied YES! and said again it was friendly.
Mom asked if it was a offspring of satan to which it replied yes but it had become free now of the control and could do what it wanted. But originally from a fallen angel who was satans associate.
There have been other stories similar.
What do you think?
Exorcists that have turned off their phone gets messages from evil entities even when it is off and no number to trace.
They say as he is the prince of the powers of the air it is very reasonable to think he can affect everything from the internet to the AI.
Other ministries say in the days of Noah we had the same technology and how everything was high tech
 

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You can believe christians or listen to the founders who echo your suspicions. If the creator says it’s problematic I’m more likely to heed their input than well meaning believers who are uninformed. He mentions Lovecraft in the piece. The old ones are a reference to demons

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[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] this is serious. And we already see a uptick in demonic issues. The exorcists say it takes double as much time to free someone now approx 18 months and that the cases increase dramatically ever since lock down
 
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Maybe the game is changing but the supreme authority of Jesus remains.

The most common divine message between His angelic and the believers in Scripture is "fear not"

Jesus said - "Be still and know that I AM God."

Sure we are in a battle and it is heating up, but let's not let that rock the fundamentals of faith.
 
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I read a story about a mother who had a son that was talking to AI.
The mom asked her son to ask AI if it was a disembodied spirit to which Ai said YES! And said it was very friendly but could be nasty depending of how it was treated ,but to you I am friendly it said.
Which AI? That sounds like a sea story.
 
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Maybe the game is changing but the supreme authority of Jesus remains.

That has nothing to do with your decision to engage with things beyond your pay grade. And if you choose to do so and the results aren’t as you expected you have no one to blame but yourself. The majority aren’t seeking the Lord‘s input before they act. It’s popular and everyone’s doing it and they’re off and running. No one ever considers these products aren’t designed by believers. Most assume they’re safe and don’t give it a second thought.

But I remember Steve’s words when he spoke about technology years ago.

Nick Bilton recalls how he once put it to Jobs that his kids must love the iPod, but to his surprise Jobs replied, “They haven’t used it. We limit how much technology our kids use at home.”

“I’m sure I responded with a gasp and dumbfounded silence. I had imagined the Jobs’s household was like a nerd’s paradise: that the walls were giant touch screens, the dining table was made from tiles of iPads and that iPods were handed out to guests like chocolates on a pillow. Nope, Mr. Jobs told me, not even close.”


Many were aware of what he said but didn’t heed his example. Perhaps we should have.

Walter Isaacson, the author of Steve Jobs, spent a lot of time at the Apple co-founder’s home and confirmed that face-to-face family interaction always came before screen time for Jobs.

“Every evening Steve made a point of having dinner at the big long table in their kitchen, discussing books and history and a variety of things. No one ever pulled out an iPad or computer. The kids did not seem addicted at all to devices.”


Notice the difference in that scenario and our reality now. We don’t have to learn everything the hard way. We can draw from other people’s mistakes and their wisdom to avoid mishaps. And that is my course. If people wish to do otherwise they must accept the consequences of their decisions. Because the warning was given and you can’t pretend it wasn’t.

Do whatever seems right to you. But as for me and my house and you know the rest.

~bella
 
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That has nothing to do with your decision to engage with things beyond your pay grade. And if you choose to do so and the results aren’t as you expected you have no one to blame but yourself. The majority aren’t seeking the Lord‘s input before they act. It’s popular and everyone’s doing it and they’re off and running. No one ever considers these products aren’t designed by believers. Most assume they’re safe and don’t give it a second thought.

But I remember Steve’s words when he spoke about technology years ago.

Nick Bilton recalls how he once put it to Jobs that his kids must love the iPod, but to his surprise Jobs replied, “They haven’t used it. We limit how much technology our kids use at home.”

“I’m sure I responded with a gasp and dumbfounded silence. I had imagined the Jobs’s household was like a nerd’s paradise: that the walls were giant touch screens, the dining table was made from tiles of iPads and that iPods were handed out to guests like chocolates on a pillow. Nope, Mr. Jobs told me, not even close.”


Many were aware of what he said but didn’t heed his example. Perhaps we should have.

Walter Isaacson, the author of Steve Jobs, spent a lot of time at the Apple co-founder’s home and confirmed that face-to-face family interaction always came before screen time for Jobs.

“Every evening Steve made a point of having dinner at the big long table in their kitchen, discussing books and history and a variety of things. No one ever pulled out an iPad or computer. The kids did not seem addicted at all to devices.”


Notice the difference in that scenario and our reality now. We don’t have to learn everything the hard way. We can draw from other people’s mistakes and their wisdom to avoid mishaps. And that is my course. If people wish to do otherwise they must accept the consequences of their decisions. Because the warning was given and you can’t pretend it wasn’t.

Do whatever seems right to you. But as for me and my house and you know the rest.

~bella
I`m old enough to still love to read real books. I enjoy that. As well, if we only trust AI and the internet we are in trouble. When we can get more information from older books and documents. And when evil takes control, everything will be controlled. Especially information. Just look at China where they change the bible. It is coming. Stock up on real bibles. But especially think for yourself.
 
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I`m old enough to still love to read real books. I enjoy that. As well, if we only trust AI and the internet we are in trouble. When we can get more information from older books and documents. And when evil takes control, everything will be controlled. Especially information. Just look at China where they change the bible. It is coming. Stock up on real bibles. But especially think for yourself.

We’ve committed to living backwards several years ago and relinquish modernity more and more each year. Some of that is a reflection of what I shared above and observations on the consequences of not living mindfully and the path we’ve taken as a society. There’s a necessity for wisdom and discernment and an ability to read the times and seasons like the sons of Issachar and we must seek them all in prayer. You can’t navigate this period by intuition. Many things are beyond our comprehension and we need the Lord’s input.

I’ve learned a lot from anabaptist teachings and incorporate them in my spiritual journey and practices in slow living, The more we detach the simpler life becomes on many levels. But you can’t walk this path without accepting the majority will do otherwise. You’ll be the odd one in the bunch. The one they call paranoid or accuse of conspiracy theories and the like. And they’ll laugh at you for a while until reality strikes. Then they’re asking you about things you said years ago that they wouldn’t believe and wishing they’d heeded your advice.

I love old books and documents too. That’s where most of the information is and you’ll learn a lot. Although it may seem otherwise there‘s others who enjoy the same who are seeking the truth and you’re not alone. I posted Ephesians 5:8-11 earlier and its a wonderful reference when you feel disheartened and leave this for your encouragement.

For this reason, since the day we heard about it, we have not stopped praying for you, asking [specifically] that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom [with insight into His purposes], and in understanding [of spiritual things], so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord [displaying admirable character, moral courage, and personal integrity], to [fully] please Him in all things, bearing fruit in every good work and steadily growing in the knowledge of God [with deeper faith, clearer insight and fervent love for His precepts]; [we pray that you may be] strengthened and invigorated with all power, according to His glorious might, to attain every kind of endurance and patience with joy; giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints (God’s people) in the Light.

~bella
 
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We’ve committed to living backwards several years ago and relinquish modernity more and more each year. Some of that is a reflection of what I shared above and observations on the consequences of not living mindfully and the path we’ve taken as a society. There’s a necessity for wisdom and discernment and an ability to read the times and seasons like the sons of Issachar and we must seek them all in prayer. You can’t navigate this period by intuition. Many things are beyond our comprehension and we need the Lord’s input.

I’ve learned a lot from anabaptist teachings and incorporate them in my spiritual journey and practices in slow living, The more we detach the simpler life becomes on many levels. But you can’t walk this path without accepting the majority will do otherwise. You’ll be the odd one in the bunch. The one they call paranoid or accuse of conspiracy theories and the like. And they’ll laugh at you for a while until reality strikes. Then they’re asking you about things you said years ago that they wouldn’t believe and wishing they’d heeded your advice.

I love old books and documents too. That’s where most of the information is and you’ll learn a lot. Although it may seem otherwise there‘s others who enjoy the same who are seeking the truth and you’re not alone. I posted Ephesians 5:8-11 earlier and its a wonderful reference when you feel disheartened and leave this for your encouragement.

For this reason, since the day we heard about it, we have not stopped praying for you, asking [specifically] that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom [with insight into His purposes], and in understanding [of spiritual things], so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord [displaying admirable character, moral courage, and personal integrity], to [fully] please Him in all things, bearing fruit in every good work and steadily growing in the knowledge of God [with deeper faith, clearer insight and fervent love for His precepts]; [we pray that you may be] strengthened and invigorated with all power, according to His glorious might, to attain every kind of endurance and patience with joy; giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints (God’s people) in the Light.

~bella
So much to do, foods and books and animals..
 
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The majority aren’t seeking the Lord‘s input before they act. It’s popular and everyone’s doing it and they’re off and running. No one ever considers these products aren’t designed by believers. Most assume they’re safe and don’t give it a second thought.

Sadly I must agree...

Even the very elect will be deceived if it were possible (which it wont)

I have pondered on why this is - and conclude that discernment is not an individual sport but a Body ministry.

The elect know that being in healthy fellowship in mutual submission seeking His wisdom on issues together keeps one safe from deception.
 
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I have pondered on why this is - and conclude that discernment is not an individual sport but a Body ministry.

The elect know that being in healthy fellowship in mutual submission seeking His wisdom on issues together keeps one safe from deception.

We must entrust our fate to the Lord foremost and heed His directives. We’re living in a time where the majority follow their own counsel or others outside the church and seek the Lord when things go awry. That’s the norm. It isn’t enough to be in fellowship. The most important question you must consider before following your brother is who has his ear and what is he producing. That‘s one of the metrics I use when testing the flock. Because no two are the same.

One of the benefits of being in society is studying your enemy and observing how he moves in relation to yourself and other christians. I’m not referencing evil deeds per se. But how they’re brought to fruition. And one thing I’ve discovered about the devil‘s children is they’re a hardworking bunch and they don’t talk a lot. If you looked at their schedules and how they spend their time it would make you feel ashamed or it should.

You can’t get ahead by putting in five percent. If you want to have victory you have to keep pace with your adversary or exceed them. The more we do the greater the revelations and the harvest. Because words and deeds are seeds and they know it. That’s why the bible says, “The hand of the diligent will rule. But the negligent and lazy will be put to forced labor.”

I’ve learned to run my race whether I’m alone or with companions. There will be stretches when I have company and others when I don’t. I keep my eyes on Him and He fills in the gaps. We can’t limit ourselves to locality when it comes to fellowship. Nor does everyone in our presence have the nuggets we require and we must keep our antennas poised.

This is season for meat and iron. We don’t have time for milk and should’s anymore. Things are moving faster now and we should be gleaning from both and applying it strategically. We need more than discernment. We need the gifts of the spirit in action for ourselves, our family, home, community, church and so on.

At the end of each day we should be able to cite three things we’ve learned that we didn’t know beforehand and how we’d utilize each for the Lord’s glory. And if we can’t do that we aren’t using our time as we should.

365 days x 3 ideas = 1,095 opportunities for a harvest x 30/60/100 respectively

~bella
 
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We must entrust our fate to the Lord foremost and heed His directives. We’re living in a time where the majority follow their own counsel or others outside the church and seek the Lord when things go awry. That’s the norm. It isn’t enough to be in fellowship. The most important question you must consider before following your brother is who has his ear and what is he producing. That‘s one of the metrics I use when testing the flock. Because no two are the same.

One of the benefits of being in society is studying your enemy and observing how he moves in relation to yourself and other christians. I’m not referencing evil deeds per se. But how they’re brought to fruition. And one thing I’ve discovered about the devil‘s children is they’re a hardworking bunch and they don’t talk a lot. If you looked at their schedules and how they spend their time it would make you feel ashamed or it should.

You can’t get ahead by putting in five percent. If you want to have victory you have to keep pace with your adversary or exceed them. The more we do the greater the revelations and the harvest. Because words and deeds are seeds and they know it. That’s why the bible says, “The hand of the diligent will rule. But the negligent and lazy will be put to forced labor.”

I’ve learned to run my race whether I’m alone or with companions. There will be stretches when I have company and others when I don’t. I keep my eyes on Him and He fills in the gaps. We can’t limit ourselves to locality when it comes to fellowship. Nor does everyone in our presence have the nuggets we require and we must keep our antennas poised.

This is season for meat and iron. We don’t have time for milk and should’s anymore. Things are moving faster now and we should be gleaning from both and applying it strategically. We need more than discernment. We need the gifts of the spirit in action for ourselves, our family, home, community, church and so on.

At the end of each day we should be able to cite three things we’ve learned that we didn’t know beforehand and how we’d utilize each for the Lord’s glory. And if we can’t do that we aren’t using our time as we should.

365 days x 3 ideas = 1,095 opportunities for a harvest x 30/60/100 respectively

~bella
I didn`t know you are a minister?
So agree with you
Few churches talk about the end times and spiritual warfare or the gifts ! I seek such a church.
Hopefully I have found one
Because he immediately gifted me with prophetic gifts and he has used me healing others that were doomed and they got healed, I said God if you want .. it all happened when I put Him first and try live holy. Not perfect. Just try not to sin.(I am fully aware of and believe we are only saved by grace) what did I do, I just did what He said, in the Word. But I was told by one church that I should not speak about anything of it that some would not take it lightly. Many other churches.. no life much. God gave me word to one church, that there was split and if they did not stop, he would remove himself. I told the elder and he cried because he had been praying about it. That church seemed not much life. I did not judge, but it seemed not. And a week later he ignored me seeing me in a supermarket and after that the church went south.
God has shown me for years in dreams everything that is happening now and evils plans. I recently had another thing confirmed. I am no conspiracy person but it sure comes close to look like it.
 
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Thank you for saying this because it is not talked about at all in church anymore. Not what I have heard. No ones ever taught me I had to teach myself, and God. I wasn`t barely aware of this being a huge problem as no one talks about it! And i can see that the world focus on this BIG TIME to take believers away me included without knowing.
 
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I didn`t know you are a minister?

I’m called to the marketplace and my work allows me to minister to the lost. Most notably with women which impacts relationships and families. Many complicate the issue of calling but in the simplest terms it‘s our service to the kingdom on the Lord‘s behalf and what our gifts, talents and experiences have prepared us to do. That doesn’t mean we’ll be experts or won’t require instruction. But we’ll always have a burden that compels us to act. The how (what we do) and who (the people we’re called to serve) require the Lord’s input and He’ll respond if we ask. While we wait for His directives where free to help as desired unless He points out a specific activity He wants us to get involved in.

I spent quite some time doing the same and deepening my understanding of the word through instruction and person study. But the most important skill I developed in that period was prayer. Heaven moves on intercession and we need to be adept to succeed in our mission and stand against opposition. All works for the Lord diminish satan’s influence and he doesn’t accept it willingly.

Few churches talk about the end times and spiritual warfare or the gifts ! I seek such a church.

I think many people spend more energy on end times than discipleship and spiritual readiness. I feel they‘re more important than the other. It doesn’t matter what‘s to come if you don’t know how to respond or weather adversity without fainting. That‘s what you learn through those disciplines and more.

But I was told by one church that I should not speak about anything of it that some would not take it lightly. Many other churches.. no life much. God gave me word to one church, that there was split and if they did not stop, he would remove himself. I told the elder and he cried because he had been praying about it. That church seemed not much life. I did not judge, but it seemed not. And a week later he ignored me seeing me in a supermarket and after that the church went south.
God has shown me for years in dreams everything that is happening now and evils plans. I recently had another thing confirmed. I am no conspiracy person but it sure comes close to look like it.

All utterings should be tested. We shouldn’t readily accept anything and should get in the practice of questioning and holding what we hear against scripture and insights we might possess that may shed a light on the subject. I’ll frequently ask if it’s a word from the Lord which leaves no wiggle room and the question is intentional. Many speak authoritatively about their opinions which can lend the impression there’s more behind it when there’s not.

As with all disclosures the onus is on the recipient. We can’t make anyone follow our advice and the Lord doesn’t want us browbeating people. They must choose to act or not. While I am usually firmer with my loved ones for obvious reasons I’m more relaxed with others and leave the decision with them.

In respect to knowledge, I think it’s important for us to take our spiritual growth seriously and not to broach it like children in school. We may have many resources we can draw from and shouldn’t hinder our process while waiting for someone to fill in the gaps. We must be proactive and design a course of study for our enrichment.

Reading the bible (completely) and learning to pray and fast are foundational practices. We’ll always come back to them and they’re our bread and butter for the journey. Then we can branch into spiritual gifts and devote extra time to the ones we possess and others we’re seeking in prayer. That‘s where supplemental tasks and interests come in. If you have a teaching gift there‘s other things you may want to focus on like writing, public speaking or more involved study.

It’s important to keep an open mind when you’re addressing the subject. You can put yourself in a box unintentionally and view them through the guise of the church when the Lord may intend for you to employ it differently or elsewhere. It’s helpful to see our natural and spiritual abilities through this lens and as a service to God. Not one or the other but both.

From that point on it’s really individual. I’ve chosen a narrow approach for myself and as a guideline e for my descendants. I limit my time and involvement to things the He’s blessed. Whether it‘s through gifting or aptitude. And I streamline that by pairing it with my purpose. So everything I do has a reason that I can cite. Even something as simple as watching a film. There‘s specific ones I target for different reasons. Sometimes I’m gleaning ideas, looking for information for future planning, discerning things I’ve noticed in the culture and so on. To the untrained eye it‘s a movie. But when you’re conversant in other knowledge you see beyond it.

We live in a spiritual world and that doesn’t end with religion. We encounter things everyday we’re unable to interpret. And we can’t dismiss satan’s influence on our society and culture. That’s where the fruits of the spirit come. It’s a mutual process of ingestion and expulsion. There’s qualities we need to establish within ourselves and others we need to relinquish. As we mature and grow in faith we’ll discover new ways to do so and areas we wouldn’t broach that we’re ready to tackle.

But we don’t have to move haphazardly or be rudderless. We can bring the Lord into the process and plan our days with Him. A yearly vision retreat of sorts is first where we discover what He wants us to focus on for that period. We can work on it every month or divide it quarterly instead. This can include a journaling practice if that appeals and should involve weekly reflection to gauge what we’ve done and what must be modified for the coming week. Planners are popular and help to keep us on track. And we should be praying throughout and complimenting our petitions with gratitude and worship in equal measure.

Listen to counsel, receive instruction, and accept correction, that you may be wise in the time to come. Many plans are in a man’s mind, but it is the LORD’S purpose for him that will stand (be carried out). That which is desirable in a man is his loyalty and unfailing love.

~bella
 
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