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Karoline Leavitt accuses CNN of 'encouraging violence' against agents for reports on new ICE tracking app

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"CNN reported on a publicly available app, which is generating attention across the United States, and reached out to ICE for comment prior to publication. After CNN published its reporting, ICE posted a response, which is now included in the story," the spokesperson told Fox News Digital.
The response reported by CNN came from ICE Acting Director Todd Lyons, who said ICEBlock "basically paints a target on federal law enforcement officers’ backs" and that "officers and agents are already facing a 500% increase in assaults."

She makes a good point.
 

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Downloading that app could be risky under the current administration.

That could very well turn into a situation where the "trackers become the tracked"

The social media & big tech giants all seem to have a relatively "cozy" arrangement with the Trump admin.


A quick call between Kratsios/Sacks and the higher ups of Apple/Google/AWS could very well go something like...

"You enjoying your tax breaks? Would you like to keep enjoying them? Great! So we'll need a list of people who downloaded that app, some of our officers have been getting threats and we need to narrow down the search"

Of course, it could be used for nefarious activities in the other direction as well. Far-right groups could just as easily post a false "sighting" to lure some anti-ICE activists to a particular location.



...but in all likelihood, what will actually happen with that app, is that a bunch of people in the pro-MAGA crowd will download the app, and just submit bogus reports anywhere and everywhere as to dilute the accuracy and usefulness.



But I find all of this kind of ironically amusing. If folks that are that "anti-ICE" channeled their time, money, and organizing efforts behind supporting a good candidate that agrees with them on immigration that was actually palatable to the general public at large, they wouldn't be having an "ICE problem" (as they see it) right now.
 
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"CNN reported on a publicly available app, which is generating attention across the United States, and reached out to ICE for comment prior to publication. After CNN published its reporting, ICE posted a response, which is now included in the story," the spokesperson told Fox News Digital.
The response reported by CNN came from ICE Acting Director Todd Lyons, who said ICEBlock "basically paints a target on federal law enforcement officers’ backs" and that "officers and agents are already facing a 500% increase in assaults."

She makes a good point.
How is cnn to blame for “inciting violence against ice agents” just for covering a story about an app?
 
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How does that incite violence against anyone? Where did they tell anyone to do anything illegal or violent?
It endangers the lives of officers. Just like when Chuck Schumer made his comments about Supreme Court justices, putting their lives and the lives of their families in danger.
 
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How does that incite violence against anyone? Where did they tell anyone to do anything illegal or violent?
It puts a target on ICE agents. In other words, if someone wants to locate ICE agents to shoot, this app will provide them with their exact location. Considering the firemen that were just gunned down, that's not far fetched.
 
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Yeah that’s the claim. Explain how.

Did they tell anyone to use the app to go assault officers?
That doesn't change the fact that that's what it could very easily be used for.
 
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It puts a target on ICE agents. In other words, if someone wants to locate ICE agents to shoot, this app will provide them with their exact location. Considering the firemen that were just gunned down, that's not far fetched.
I think the dudes roaming around decked out in military gear kidnapping people into unmarked cars are kinda putting targets on themselves but sure ok. People are also using Instagram to alert others of ICE raids in their area. This is the first I hear of a dedicated app for this kind of alert system. Firemen don’t carry guns to fight bad guys and they aren’t going around antagonizing people just trying to work and live their lives and kidnapping them away like a gang of terrorists. Poor comparison.
 
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That doesn't change the fact that that's what it could very easily be used for.
I would hope people around me would alert the neighbors when there’s armed, masked men grabbing random people off the street. That’s precisely what a community watch is supposed to be looking out for.
 
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I think the dudes roaming around decked out in military gear kidnapping people into unmarked cars are kinda putting targets on themselves but sure ok. People are also using Instagram to alert others of ICE raids in their area. This is the first I hear of a dedicated app for this kind of alert system. Firemen don’t carry guns to fight bad guys and they aren’t going around antagonizing people just trying to work and live their lives and kidnapping them away like a gang of terrorists. Poor comparison.
If firemen can get gunned down by a sniper holding a grudge, how much more so for ICE agents who are vilified for just doing their job. You yourself just vilified them as kidnappers.
 
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I would hope people around me would alert the neighbors when there’s armed, masked men grabbing random people off the street. That’s precisely what a community watch is supposed to be looking out for.
That's not the same as red dots on a map screen pinpointing law enforcement officers. Will you be happy if they start getting gunned down, considering how evil you say they are?
 
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I would hope people around me would alert the neighbors when there’s armed, masked men grabbing random people off the street. That’s precisely what a community watch is supposed to be looking out for.
People, real people, die because of such an attitude. It's reckless and irresponsible, all we can do at this point is urge people not to follow the radical leaders.
 
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Yeah that’s the claim. Explain how.

Did they tell anyone to use the app to go assault officers?
No, the gentleman in the CNN clip promoted the exact opposite - he said that it allows one to avoid the area altogether.

The only persons promoting violence were those in the second clip.
 
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No, the gentleman in the CNN clip promoted the exact opposite - he said that it allows one to avoid the area altogether.
And that is the real reason the Trump administration is irked about it.
The only persons promoting violence were those in the second clip.
 
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It endangers the lives of officers.

Only scoundrels want to operate in the dark. All this app does is provide information to people about ICE's activities, so they can plan accordingly.
 
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Only scoundrels want to operate in the dark. All this app does is provide information to people about ICE's activities, so they can plan accordingly.
It's supposed to help law breakers evade law enforcement.
 
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