Judgement

Neogaia777 · Jun 2, 2025

@Maria Billingsley @honey badger

Thank you guys for your time, I have to be going for a little while now.

God Bless.

d taylor · Jun 2, 2025

Neogaia777 said:
But you think the majority are going to be/stand condemned at the great white throne judgement, don't you? Doesn't that directly contradict what you are right now saying?

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Everyone at the great white throne judgment is an unbeliever, there will be no believers at the great white throne judgement.

d taylor · Jun 2, 2025

Neogaia777 said:
To receive the Life of God is to believe in Jesus, so what is required to believe in Jesus?

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For a person to be convinced that Jesus is who He says He is and to be convinced that is how a person receive God's free gift of Eternal Life. To believe Jesus is, who He says He is.

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

Clare73 · Jun 2, 2025

Neogaia777 said:
To receive the Life of God is to believe in Jesus, so what is required to believe in Jesus?

To believe in Jesus is
to believe in and trust on Jesus and his atoning work for the forgiveness of your sin,
to turn from disobedience to obedience,
to grow in knowledge and understanding of the Scriptures, in love of God and in love of the brethren.

bling · Jun 3, 2025

Neogaia777 said:
God can't judge us by the standard of absolute perfection, or we would all stand condemned, and if you think otherwise, then I think you will stand condemned, and anything you have done or achieved by your own efforts is as filthy rags, and is an offense to God, because it puffs you up with pride, which is a sin that God hates over and above and beyond any others, because that is what happened to the Devil, and is also what happens with his children, who are God's actual enemies, etc. That being said, then should we continue in sin then? or not ever resist the urge to sin then? Well, that's probably not a very good idea either, but neither is trading some sins for sins that God hates even very much more either, etc. I would tell you that any and all sin, including some sins that you might trade for other sins, they can all be a possible risk to salvation, or of you getting to enjoy an eternity with God in the afterlife in Heaven, etc. Because He cannot judge us by the standard of absolute perfection, but nor can He just completely ignore any or all sin, then it's possible that some sin(s) can be a possible risk to salvation, etc. But God might also love a person a lot more who seems to be to the rest of the world 100% completely lost in their sins, because they are humble, versus a proud, judgemental, extremely critical and condemning, self-righteous person because they are not, etc, but are actually the true enemies of his, etc.

This is why I said some people are going to be very, very surprised on judgement day when that happens in Heaven, or before you can get into Heaven, etc.

I do also believe that judgement of every single individual is all going to be on a case by case basis also, etc, even though this won't seem to be very fair at first to some though, but in or by the end of it (the judgement) God will show us all how it was all 100% just/true/right, etc. And then people will be sent to their appropriate destinations that everyone regardless of where they are going will then be 100% agreed upon 100% completely, etc.

Also, none knows whether or not those being saved or getting into Heaven will be many or few either, Jesus didn't even know while he was here, but it was like the exact time and days of all of the seasons, no one ever knows/knew except our Father in Heaven, etc. So, just in case you are trying to evaluate the likelihood of your making it in or not based on that, you can't, because no one ever fully knew/knows that ever but only our Father in Heaven, and He has chosen not to fully reveal all of the exact details of that until we are all standing before Him before we are all maybe (or maybe not) getting into Heaven, etc.

God Bless.

God judges our hearts, is Love compelling you to do what you are trying to do?

fhansen · Jun 3, 2025

Neogaia777 said:
God can't judge us by the standard of absolute perfection, or we would all stand condemned, and if you think otherwise, then I think you will stand condemned, and anything you have done or achieved by your own efforts is as filthy rags, and is an offense to God, because it puffs you up with pride, which is a sin that God hates over and above and beyond any others, because that is what happened to the Devil, and is also what happens with his children, who are God's actual enemies, etc. That being said, then should we continue in sin then? or not ever resist the urge to sin then? Well, that's probably not a very good idea either, but neither is trading some sins for sins that God hates even very much more either, etc. I would tell you that any and all sin, including some sins that you might trade for other sins, they can all be a possible risk to salvation, or of you getting to enjoy an eternity with God in the afterlife in Heaven, etc. Because He cannot judge us by the standard of absolute perfection, but nor can He just completely ignore any or all sin, then it's possible that some sin(s) can be a possible risk to salvation, etc. But God might also love a person a lot more who seems to be to the rest of the world 100% completely lost in their sins, because they are humble, versus a proud, judgemental, extremely critical and condemning, self-righteous person because they are not, etc, but are actually the true enemies of his, etc.

This is why I said some people are going to be very, very surprised on judgement day when that happens in Heaven, or before you can get into Heaven, etc.

I do also believe that judgement of every single individual is all going to be on a case by case basis also, etc, even though this won't seem to be very fair at first to some though, but in or by the end of it (the judgement) God will show us all how it was all 100% just/true/right, etc. And then people will be sent to their appropriate destinations that everyone regardless of where they are going will then be 100% agreed upon 100% completely, etc.

Also, none knows whether or not those being saved or getting into Heaven will be many or few either, Jesus didn't even know while he was here, but it was like the exact time and days of all of the seasons, no one ever knows/knew except our Father in Heaven, etc. So, just in case you are trying to evaluate the likelihood of your making it in or not based on that, you can't, because no one ever fully knew/knows that ever but only our Father in Heaven, and He has chosen not to fully reveal all of the exact details of that until we are all standing before Him before we are all maybe (or maybe not) getting into Heaven, etc.

God Bless.

The church had to deal with this many, many centuries ago. Novel theologies have constructed a salvation model that opens up a question as to whether or not a person must be righteous and live accordingly in order to enter heaven, as if the new covenant might be some sort of reprieve from this necessity. This question would've been absurd in the past as Christianity was seen as a turning away from sin and the world, often at great cost, and to God, the only Source of authentic righteousness which takes root and blossoms in us to the extent that we truly remain in Him-and that must take root and blossom in us. This is a patient work of His- that we cooperate with.

A journey to perfection as it's been called is the path we must be on (Matt 5:48, 1 Pet 1:16), now united with Him, even as it won't be fully accomplished until the next life, and there'll be plenty of testing and struggle against sin in this life in the meanwhile. At the end of the day God will judge us-on how we did with what we've been given: grace, revelation, time, experience, backgrounds, etc, with more demanded of those given more (Luke 12:48). All sin is opposed to God and His will but there is "sin that leads to death", being so grevious and so opposed to love of God and neighbor by its nature that, if persisted in, testifies and amounts to a final and full rejection of God and His love. Some of these are listed in Galatians and Revelation, as examples.

Jeff Saunders · Jun 7, 2025

David Lamb said:
But God does judge us by the standard of absolute perfection - that is His standard. That is why we read in God's word:

“for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” (Ro 3:23 NKJV)

That is also why even what we imagine to be our righteousness is like "filthy rags" in God's sight.

And of course, that is why we need a Saviour.

How do you deal with John5:22 which says God judges no one. but entrusts all judgement to Jesus?

Clare73 · Jun 8, 2025

Jeff Saunders said:
How do you deal with John5:22 which says God judges no one. but entrusts all judgement to Jesus?

I can tell you how I deal with it. . .

My Judge is my Savior. . .not so much for unbelievers in Jesus Christ.

David Lamb · Jun 9, 2025

Jeff Saunders said:
How do you deal with John5:22 which says God judges no one. but entrusts all judgement to Jesus?

It actually says, "the Father" and "to the Son." Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all God.

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