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Is it possible we have been lied to for years?

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Bradskii

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People might claim that those roles should be "equal" - but when there is a bump in the night - we all know that the man - if he is able-bodied - should be the one checking it out.

Any able-bodied man who allows his woman to check it for him will be ridiculed - it is because we don't get to decide these roles.
Is that the deal? I check out the bumps in the night so therefore I can decide how my wife is to live her life?
 
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Ah, yes, because Islamic countries are known for being so welcoming and loving. Not.
Can't help but notice the goalposts moving from saying there's no reason to think Trump would target minorities, why are people lying about that to now giving excuses why his history of targeting minorities is acceptable.
 
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The MSM likes to twist and distort the truth because they are left leaning.

Remember when Trump praised H Clinton?
Like when he called her the devil and threatened to lock her up?

Come on, like the claims he tried to save the ACA no one who was paying attention is going to fall for stuff like this.
 
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It's not all that radical of an idea; I don't think any European country offers birthright citizenship to the extent the United States does.
Another example of the goal-post moving I was talking about. The thread starts with claims that he's not out to get immigrants, and when factual examples are provided that Donald does have a history of targeting immigrants the story changes to talking about the reasons why he's right to do so. Makes it hard to take any of this spin seriously.
 
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Like when he called her the devil and threatened to lock her up?
Like when Trump actually was president and could have gone after Hillary to lock her up but chose not to and said she’s been through enough!
 

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Another example of the goal-post moving I was talking about. The thread starts with claims that he's not out to get immigrants, and when factual examples are provided that Donald does have a history of targeting immigrants the story changes to talking about the reasons why he's right to do so. Makes it hard to take any of this spin seriously.
Talk about spin! Interesting how you leave out “illegal “ immigrants who actually by definition are lawbreaking criminals.
 

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Donald does have a history of targeting immigrants the story changes to talking about the reasons why he's right to do so.
Actually Trump and Biden and Kamala have a DUTY to go after ILLEGAL immigrants. All of the above are sworn to uphold the laws of the land . Especially against an invasion of lawbreakers. Let’s not spin this into something it is not .
 

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What specific deficiency do they lack that makes them unable to figure that out for themselves?
This reminds me of when Cain asked God, "Am I my brother's keeper?"

To take something good and twist it to sound evil.

What makes you think that a man being as God would have him be and to do what is best for his family makes anyone deficient?
 

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I don't not make decisions on their behalf because I'm concerned about their reaction. I don't do it because to do so would be disrespectful.
No one said anything about you making decisions for them. We were talking about you doing what was best for them.

And these two sentences mean exactly the same thing. You don't want to do what is best for them because you want to avoid them feeling disrespected.
I really don't get the attitude that says 'I'll be making the decisions and I expect you to go along with them'.
This has not been the topic of this discussion.
Just don't try pushing that ancient barrow around these parts.
Truth has no expiration date, and I have been commissioned to share it wherever I go.
 

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And just exactly how is Trump making decisions for women when those decisions are in the hands of individual states?
Yes, totally. I totally proved by my post that is exactly what the left believes. Now some are trying to walk that back and move away from their stance and focus on his voters. Accusing them of misogyny and racism and Trump pandering to them.
 

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Husbands and wives are partners.
No, they are not. I accept your claim that they are working as a team though. Every team has a leader.
Men, especially those interpreting roles from a religious viewpoint, have infantilized women thus elevating their role.
I vehemently disagree. It is feminism and this "liberation" that has infantilized and taken advantage of women.

Convincing them that they should compete with men so they can be taxed and fall into debt.

Convincing them that they should be allowed to do whatever they want sexually with no consequences so men can abuse them.

Convincing them that they can "act like men", yet still receive preferential or privileged treatment.
There is more to dealing with the unknown than strength alone.
Who said anything about strength?
Work as a team instead of putting it all on the male. (This isn’t only about the hypothetical intruder but navigating life in general)
No one said anything about the man working alone.
 

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It is amazing how many ways the murder of babies can be talked about and justified without actually mentioning the baby.
Men in every (known and tested) city are evil beyond measure.

(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)
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The Lord abhors a person who lies, but those who deal truthfully are his delight.
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The Lord hates those whose lips tell lies. But he is pleased with people who tell the truth.
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The Lord detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy.
 

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Like when he called her the devil and threatened to lock her up?

Come on, like the claims he tried to save the ACA no one who was paying attention is going to fall for stuff like this.
So? People can make mistakes. He seems quite forgiving
 
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Only we don't do that so well do we? We would rather get our facts from Fox and friends.
Remind me how CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, The View, The Huffington Post, New York Times, and VOX are doing these days. I don't watch Fox and Friends, but I would check them out before I trust anything coming out of the mouths of Rachel Maddow or Caren (Whoopie) Goldberg.
 
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Remind me how CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, The View, The Huffington Post, New York Times, and VOX are doing these days. I don't watch Fox and Friends, but I would check them out before I trust anything coming out of the mouths of Rachel Maddow or Caren (Whoopie) Goldberg.
Me too! I don’t trust liberal propaganda.
 
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I stopped right there because that is so far detached from the reality of the last seven years anything that follows is skews from reality itself.

Even in the microcosm of CF, there are hundreds, if not thousands of times the President is open called a racist, a misogynist, a hater of LGBTQ, etc.

The latest is calling him a fascist which is expressly against forum rules, but hey! It’s Trump we can call him any manner of evil and it is ok. R

I could list them, but call outs are against the rules
But did you see the smile on Joe Biden's face after the election when he met the "greatest threat to our democracy in American history?" Call me crazy, but it was almost as if he never actually believed it was true.
 
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Me too! I don’t trust liberal propaganda.
I mean, not trying to goad, but I am on the record on CF predicting Trump was going to defeat Kamala with over 300 electoral votes and win the popular vote weeks before the election at the same time liberal media were saying the opposite and conservative media were saying it is a toss up. Just saying if anyone is curious as to my sources. BTW, it was not the MSM.
 
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We actually have 2 problems here.

One is the implication that they are too delicate and unworldly to know what's best for them. And two is that they do know and Trump is going to do what he wants for them even if they don't like it.

I like it.

I want a government to look out for my interests above the interests of other nations peoples. I mean, that's what we pay taxes for.

We, the women, want to be safe jogging in broad daylight near a university etc etc.

So I look forward to seeing an administration that cares for us - despite the nuts who think women being raped and murdered is nothing so long as the rapist is black or brown.

I prefer governing officials care about rape, and murder, no matter what quarters it comes from.

So yes, I want Trump and all Republican men to protect me. That's what God made them for - the protection of women from dangerous men who don't care who hurts them.

It makes me feel better to know someone cares in a world where increasingly women are not protected.

Safety and the economy are the most likely reasons Trump got more female votes than previous years.
 
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