‘ There Is No Such Thing as a Gay Person,’ Says Rosaria Butterfield, Because Sexual Orientation Is an Unbiblical Idea

Michie · Jul 4, 2024

Author Dr. Rosaria Butterfield, who has criticized LGBTQ-friendly Christians as “heretical,” warns that terms used in the so-called “gay community” are not true. In a July 1 post titled, “I Don’t Have an LGBTQ Neighbor—and Neither Do You,” Butterfield called it delusional to describe people according to nonbiblical labels that imply “a different category of person.”

Writing at Clear Truth Media, Butterfield explained, “Do you have lesbian neighbors? No. You have neighbors. These beloved image-bearers of a Holy God have fallen into lusts of the flesh that wage war against God’s created order. But they are not a different kind of man or woman.”

Butterfield, 62, is a former professor who shed a “lesbian identity” and converted to Christianity. Now married to a pastor, she is the author of several books, including “Five Lies of Our Anti-Christian Age.”

Last fall, Butterfield labeled Dr. Preston Sprinkle a heretic for spreading “lies” about same-sex attraction. She also took aim at his Center for Faith, Sexuality & Gender, in addition to organizations such as Revoice and Cru.

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‘There Is No Such Thing as a Gay Person,’ Says Rosaria Butterfield, Because Sexual Orientation Is an Unbiblical Idea

Dr. Rosaria Butterfield called it delusional to describe people according to nonbiblical labels that imply “a different category of person.”

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okay · Jul 4, 2024

Preston Sprinkle believes same-sex relationships are sinful, so he agrees with her on that point. She is publicly calling him a heretic simply because he has a different opinion than her about whether some people are inherently attracted to the same sex. Her bar for heresy is very low.

I read at least part of Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert that she wrote many years ago. Perhaps I don’t recall correctly, but back then she already thought same-sex attraction was a symptom, not something inherent. But my impression is that she also seemed to have at least a little humility and was willing to extend grace.

Perhaps this article just shows her in the worst light, but that humility and grace seem to be long gone.

Edit: just for full disclosure, I am much more liberal that Preston Sprinkler on this and some other issues.

jas3 · Jul 4, 2024

This is a sentiment I wish we'd see more Christian leaders voicing. The various "orientations" and "identities" people assume are something external to their person, and it is disappointing to see ministries compromising (knowingly or unknowingly) on that fact. It's not helpful to tell people that something innate to them is driving them toward a sin that others don't struggle with, and it's not true, so Dr. Butterfield is right to criticize these ministries that say you can identify as having an orientation toward disordered and sinful acts, as long as you don't act on it.

okay · Jul 4, 2024

jas3 said:
This is a sentiment I wish we'd see more Christian leaders voicing. The various "orientations" and "identities" people assume are something external to their person, and it is disappointing to see ministries compromising (knowingly or unknowingly) on that fact.

I don’t wish to see Christians throw around the word ‘heretic’ in public more. Especially when it comes down to different opinions about human psychology, which is enormously complex.

SavedByGrace3 · Jul 4, 2024

I agree, in essence. "Gay," "Homosexual," etc, are invented terms that are used to create a social subgroup and lend credence to something that is nothing more than a learned behavior. I try not to use these terms and instead refer to them as behaviors.
There is no social subgroup for adulterers, murderers, or drunk drivers. We do not afford them or their behavior any credentials or legitimacy, nor should we. If we do, we essentially fall into their logic trap and award them "rights" and protection under "diversity" concepts.

okay · Jul 5, 2024

Dr. Butterfield says it is heretical to believe that some people are inherently attracted to people of the same sex. To me that is the big 'story' here.

Do you agree it is heretical?

I happy to respect different opinions on this, but throwing the 'heretic' label on anyone who disagrees with me seems pretty extreme to me.

OnePlanPeopleDestiny · Jul 21, 2024

okay said:
Dr. Butterfield says it is heretical to believe that some people are inherently attracted to people of the same sex. To me that is the big 'story' here.

Do you agree it is heretical?

I happy to respect different opinions on this, but throwing the 'heretic' label on anyone who disagrees with me seems pretty extreme to me.

We are exhorted to avoid corrupt and sinful people, lest we fall prey to, or partake in, their evil ways. If heresy is "self chosen doctrines not emanating from God", and if it be agreed that heresy is sin and sin heresy, then Butterfield is right. We are all image bearers of our creator God, commanded by God to live according to His dictates. Heresy, then, occurs whenever we decide that we know ourselves better than God who created us. It shouldn't be any less simple or any more difficult than that.

FireDragon76 · Jul 22, 2024

Butterfield doesn't know what she's talking about. She was what is called a "Political Lesbian" (ie, lesbianism is just a feminist political statement), and her experience is hardly representative of most gay people.

okay · Jul 22, 2024

OnePlanPeopleDestiny said:
if it be agreed that heresy is sin and sin heresy

I don’t agree. You can't just make up new meanings for words. With this new meaning, everyone is a heretic.

okay · Jul 22, 2024

FireDragon76 said:
Butterfield doesn't know what she's talking about. She was what is called a "Political Lesbian" (ie, lesbianism is just a feminist political statement), and her experience is hardly representative of most gay people.

Yup. In the book of hers that I read, she said that she was not always a lesbian, and that her time in the lgbtq community was defined by her ideology.

Most people do not seem to have any real choice in what gender they are romantically and sexually attracted to. And this statement is what Butterfield is calling heretical.

Chris35 · Jul 22, 2024

Michie said:
Writing at Clear Truth Media, Butterfield explained, “Do you have lesbian neighbors? No. You have neighbors. These beloved image-bearers of a Holy God have fallen into lusts of the flesh that wage war against God’s created order. But they are not a different kind of man or woman.

24So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies 25They traded the truth about God for a lie.So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. 26That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

I think she is right. If God has abandoned them to their desires, perhaps they are stuck in their lust until they repent.

OnePlanPeopleDestiny · Jul 22, 2024

okay said:
I don’t agree. You can't just make up new meanings for words. With this new meaning, everyone is a heretic.

Heresy can be defined as: propagating one's own desires and beliefs and claiming them as truth instead of agreeing with, desiring, and believing God's word, which is absolute truth.

It is absolute truth that only God can determine what conduct/behavior is sin. God has given us His word on what He considers sin. All sin is wicked and rebellion toward God. Homosexual behavior is sin and wicked and rebellion toward God.

Homosexuals believe and claim that God created them as homosexuals. However, the Bible clearly labels homosexual behavior as sin. If the Christian believes the claims that homosexuals make, they are rejecting the truth of God's word in favor of lies of homosexuals.

Therefore, it is heresy for Christians to believe the lies that homosexuals claim as truth.

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