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So, do you plan to continue sinning
no, I plan on daily walking in faith and abiding in Christ. As we read in scripture

“Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.” (1 John 3:6 KJV)

and I plan on having God work in me to make me perfect unto every good work through Jesus Christ. Those who truy to establish their own righteousness by the law cannot stop sinning or have any spiritual life. The letter kills but the Spirit gives life. If there was a law given that could bring righteousness then Christ died in vain.

Moses describes the righteousness which is of the law that no one could keep. Only in Christ can we do all things and as he abides in us and we in him. Without Christ in us we can do nothing. To look to a letter outside and try in our flesh and own effort to be righteous and do works of righteousness to save us is not the gospel .In Christ we sin not as we abide in Him, then we walk in the Spirit and do not fulfill the list of the flesh and if we walk in the Spirit we are not under the law. Then we are in the righteousness of faith and put no confidence in the flesh and we do not put God in our debt,

consider what the bondage and burden the OT people were under

"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise," (Romans 10:4-6 KJV)

It is as if God is saying ok, if you want to try and save yourselves and be righteous of yourselves then keep all the law and live. But all have sinned and broken the law, there is none righteous, no, not one. Only in Christ are we made the righteousness of zGod through faith.

If any man could keep the law perfectly and never sin they could live. But only Jesus could do that , only Jesus fulfilled all righteousness. God has concluded all under sin that he might have mercy on all.

Notice how Paul speaks of the righteousness of the law then he says but the righteousness of faith...
 
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You hide behind words of Paul

You sound like some I have met who are very troubled by Paul,some even think Paul was not saved. They get so troubled by things Paul rightly says like the law if not of faith and he speaks of men being delivered from the curse of the law and the law is not made for a righteous man and the Mosaic law written and engraved in stones was glorious and is not done away ads a ministration for righteousness.

But many wrest Paul's words unto their own destruction. Paul speaks some things hard to be understood you obviously do not understand them. Paul wrote the commandments of the lord 1 Cor 14:37 KJV) and Jesus spoke in him (2 Cor 3:3 KJV)

I don't need to "hide" I simply believe the word and it works in me.
 
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Deuteronomy 30:19
"I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live."
Read the previous pats of that chapter (Deut 30) and see that the commandment that God gave them was not hidden from them it was always in their heart and Christ worked in them all along f they came to him by faith inwardly/ Paul refers to this section when speaking of the righteousness of faith as compared to the righteousness of the law in Romans 10.

"For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. 12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? 13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? 14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it." (Deuteronomy 30:11-14 KJV) The "it" here also refers to the word of Christ or Chrst in men, the true Light which lighteth every man.

"For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:) 7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
 
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Why do you think that in Matt, John, Luke and mark Jesus was teaching the commandments to have them abolished a few years later?


Jesus was made under the law he often referred to the law and Moses and the Jews were under the requirement and bondage to keep all the law every jot and title.When Jesus said he did not come to destroy the law or the prophets he came to fulfill them, and he accomplished that on the cross and by rising again.

Every jot and title of the law referred to all aspects of the law, sacrificing, tithing, circumcision, Levites washings etc etc etc. There was a time and context he spoke. To miss this is to confuse the two covenants and miss the new covenant in his blood the new Testament.
 
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Every jot and title of the law referred to all aspects of the law, sacrificing, tithing, circumcision, Levites washings etc etc etc. There was a time and context he spoke. To miss this is to confuse the two covenants and miss the new covenant in his blood the new Testament.
I have only one answer to you and that is the word of God;

Matt 7:

I Never Knew You​

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.

The term "lawlessness" refers to a state of being without law or without regard for the law. It refers to
disobedience to God's laws or principles. In the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament, "lawlessness" means forms of moral and spiritual rebellion against God. it is why Jesus was constantly teaching the commandments. Obey or not the choice is yours.

Do you get it now?
 
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I have only one answer to you and that is the word of God;

Matt 7:

I Never Knew You​

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.

The term "lawlessness" refers to a state of being without law or without regard for the law. It refers to
disobedience to God's laws or principles. In the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament, "lawlessness" means forms of moral and spiritual rebellion against God. it is why Jesus was constantly teaching the commandments. Obey or not the choice is yours.

Do you get it now?
Happy Sabbath friend. :)

Yes, this is such an important teaching of Jesus- how do we know Him and why if we don't it separates us.

Scripture tells us plainly....

1 John 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.

And why Jesus says depart from Me, those who practice lawlessness Mat 7:23 because. . .
1 John 2:4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Why Jesus taught not to break the least of these commandments because breaking one James said only quoting and contrasting from the Ten Commandments we break them all James 2:10-12

And the law that is revealed that Jesus is referring to in Mat 7:23 before His Second Coming can only be found in the Ten Commandments

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside (Judgment- commandment breakers just as we were told James 2:10-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30) are dogs and sorcerers (breaking commandment #1 Exo 20:3) and sexually immoral (breaking commandment # 7 Exo 20:14) and murderers (breaking commandment #6 Exo 20:13) and idolaters (Breaking commandment #2 Exo 20:4), and whoever loves and practices a lie (breaking commandment #9 Exo 20:16 or any of them) . 1 John 2:4 He who says, “I know Him,and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

God's Word is always in harmony. God keeps His promises Psa 89:34

How do we know God- by our obedience to God because His holy law is a reflection of His holy character which we are to be transformed by. Psa 19:7

The one commandment that most people reject and say to forget it the one commandment God said to Remember and how we join ourselves to Christ (know Him) We need His sanctification Eze 20:12 man cannot sanctify themselves we need God.

No Greater Authority!
Isa 56:1 Thus says the Lord:

“Keep justice, and do righteousness,

For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”

6 “Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—

Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant


Amen!
 
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I have only one answer to you and that is the word of God;

Matt 7:

I Never Knew You​

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.

The term "lawlessness" refers to a state of being without law or without regard for the law. It refers to
disobedience to God's laws or principles. In the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament, "lawlessness" means forms of moral and spiritual rebellion against God. it is why Jesus was constantly teaching the commandments. Obey or not the choice is yours.

Do you get it now?
The law is spiritual and believers walk in the Law of the Spirit in Christ Jesus and then they do not fulfill the works of the flesh.

If we abide in Christ we sin not.
 
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Happy Sabbath friend. :)

Yes, this is such an important teaching of Jesus- how do we know Him and why if we don't it separates us.

Scripture tells us plainly....

1 John 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.

And why Jesus says depart from Me, those who practice lawlessness Mat 7:23 because. . .
1 John 2:4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Why Jesus taught not to break the least of these commandments because breaking one James said only quoting and contrasting from the Ten Commandments we break them all James 2:10-12

And the law that is revealed that Jesus is referring to in Mat 7:23 before His Second Coming can only be found in the Ten Commandments

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside (Judgment- commandment breakers just as we were told James 2:10-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30) are dogs and sorcerers (breaking commandment #1 Exo 20:3) and sexually immoral (breaking commandment # 7 Exo 20:14) and murderers (breaking commandment #6 Exo 20:13) and idolaters (Breaking commandment #2 Exo 20:4), and whoever loves and practices a lie (breaking commandment #9 Exo 20:16 or any of them) . 1 John 2:4 He who says, “I know Him,and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

God's Word is always in harmony. God keeps His promises Psa 89:34

How do we know God- by our obedience to God because His holy law is a reflection of His holy character which we are to be transformed by. Psa 19:7

The one commandment that most people reject and say to forget it the one commandment God said to Remember and how we join ourselves to Christ (know Him) We need His sanctification Eze 20:12 man cannot sanctify themselves we need God.

No Greater Authority!
Isa 56:1 Thus says the Lord:

“Keep justice, and do righteousness,

For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”

6 “Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—

Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant


Amen!
The main thing to understand is what commandments are Jesus and Moses and how do we keep a commandment. Well, it is only by faith and living in Christ where the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts. Then we fulfill the law. No man can establish his own righteousness by the law or seeking to live in the letter
 
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The law is spiritual and believers walk in the Law of the Spirit in Christ Jesus and then they do not fulfill the works of the flesh.

If we abide in Christ we sin not.
The Commandments given by GOD are love and do define sin. You go against Christ and what he represents.

Christ demands Love, obedience ( the 10 commandments) , dedication, persistence, discernment and to do the will of GOD. Jesus is the only way. If you love him keep the Commandments He asks this of us.

Also you should chosen for name LOVE MY TRUTH, because yours is not biblical you follow another and it is not Christ.

This the last we speak.
 
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The Commandments given by GOD are love and do define sin. You go against Christ and what he represents.

Christ demands Love, obedience ( the 10 commandments) , dedication, persistence, discernment and to do the will of GOD. Jesus is the only way. If you love him keep the Commandments He asks this of us.

Also you should chosen for name LOVE MY TRUTH, because yours is not biblical you follow another and it is not Christ.

This the last we speak.
Sadly you are false in your teaching and bound up under the law and are trying to establish your own righteousness by the law and are in bondage. You simply ignore 2 Corinthians 3{7 to the end and Galatians 3 and 5 and the entire book of Hebrews and you attack Paul's words as if he is not speaking by Jesus Christ in him and try to pit the two Paul and Jesus against each other ...sadly...You think you keep the Sabbath law of Moses and yet in the OT law if men broke it they were to be put to death. Im sure you find some way to delete that part of the old law. But believers are not under the law now if they walk in the Spirit. As scripture clearly clearly says.Jesus was made under the law and kept all the law and never sinned. He alone is the saviour. If men think they want to have life by the righteousness described in the law of Moses they can try as many have, but all have sinned already and to break one law you break them all. So only by grace through faith are we saved. Then we are a new creation in Christ created unto good works which God works in us through Jesus Christ and to make us perfect unto every good work. Then we walk in a new and living way in the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

Read Galatians 3 you seek , like they do to add the law to the Spiritual walk, They began in the spirit and then were seeking to be made perfect by the flesh.

I call my name love of truth. Jesus Christ is the truth and the truth makes us free. Jesus Christ in me make me free from the law of sin and death and from the works of my own flesh to be righteous. I walk in the Spirit and do not fulfill the works of the flesh as I abide in Christ I sin not.

here are just a few of your scriptural rebukes and corrections. I suggest you seriously examine them and consider your error. It is massive. i feel like the entire new testament and the new covenant speak against your view.

"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, ..."(Romans 10:3-6 KJV)

" foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? ..." *Galatians 3:1-4 KJV)

"Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament;
not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious. 12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: 13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:..." (2 Corinthians 3"6-13 KJV)

“In that he saith, A
new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.” *Hebrews 8:13 KJV)

and as far as sin

“For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.” (Romans 6:14 KJV) and as we abide in Christ we sin not.


In Christ we can do all things and put no confidence in our flesh. Yes, we do the roll of God from a pure heart in faith as we walk in the new man and are led by the spirit and strengthened with might by God in the inner man. We can do all things through Christ. But the life flows from within.
 
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Jesus gave many commandments in the New Testament and all Paul and Peter and John and others wrote (for the most part were the commandments of the Lord), but no one can keep his word unless he is abiding in them and if we abide in him and he abides in us this is a spiritual walk and life and not following the outward mosaic law. You don’t need to tell a person who has Gods love in him not to kill his brother.

We read this about keeping the commandments of Jesus

1 John 2: 3. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. 7. Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. 8. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11. But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.”

John 15: 5. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.”

When the law as a schoolmaster does it’s work to show sin and bring us unto Christ to be justified by faith then we are no longer under the schoolmaster (the law) we walk in the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.
 
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Happy Sabbath friend. :)

Yes, this is such an important teaching of Jesus- how do we know Him and why if we don't it separates us.

Scripture tells us plainly....

1 John 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.

And why Jesus says depart from Me, those who practice lawlessness Mat 7:23 because. . .
1 John 2:4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Why Jesus taught not to break the least of these commandments because breaking one James said only quoting and contrasting from the Ten Commandments we break them all James 2:10-12

And the law that is revealed that Jesus is referring to in Mat 7:23 before His Second Coming can only be found in the Ten Commandments

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside (Judgment- commandment breakers just as we were told James 2:10-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30) are dogs and sorcerers (breaking commandment #1 Exo 20:3) and sexually immoral (breaking commandment # 7 Exo 20:14) and murderers (breaking commandment #6 Exo 20:13) and idolaters (Breaking commandment #2 Exo 20:4), and whoever loves and practices a lie (breaking commandment #9 Exo 20:16 or any of them) . 1 John 2:4 He who says, “I know Him,and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

God's Word is always in harmony. God keeps His promises Psa 89:34

How do we know God- by our obedience to God because His holy law is a reflection of His holy character which we are to be transformed by. Psa 19:7

The one commandment that most people reject and say to forget it the one commandment God said to Remember and how we join ourselves to Christ (know Him) We need His sanctification Eze 20:12 man cannot sanctify themselves we need God.

No Greater Authority!
Isa 56:1 Thus says the Lord:

“Keep justice, and do righteousness,

For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”

6 “Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—

Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant


Amen!
To keep the sabbath rest is a spiritual reality not an outward sign or shadow today. It figured in the past ceasing from our own works and resting in God and his works in us. To keep the sabbath today is to not go back in the flesh after beginning in the Spirit or to go back under the law and try to work our righteousness by it to be justified.

To defile this spiritual sabbath reality is to break the rest we have in christ and go back to the works of the law and the flesh as our salvation.

All this is seen in scripture

Hebrews 4: 3. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world… 10. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.”

Galatians 3: 2. This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3. Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?… 5. He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 6. Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7. Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14. That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 18. For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. 19. Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
 
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