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Hunter Biden faces 17 years in prison after spending millions on lavish hard-partying lifestyle while dodging taxes: special counsel

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“The Defendant engaged in a four-year scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019,” Special Counsel David Weiss writes in the 56-page indictment out of the Central District of California.

“In furtherance of that scheme,” Weiss notes that Hunter “subverted the payroll and tax withholding process of his own company, Owasco, PC by withdrawing millions from Owasco, PC” and “spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills.”
Joe said Hunter "did nothing wrong."
 
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“The Defendant engaged in a four-year scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019,” Special Counsel David Weiss writes in the 56-page indictment out of the Central District of California.

“In furtherance of that scheme,” Weiss notes that Hunter “subverted the payroll and tax withholding process of his own company, Owasco, PC by withdrawing millions from Owasco, PC” and “spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills.”
Joe said Hunter "did nothing wrong."

I'd love to see the quote from "Joe," it seems to not be in the article you posted and I haven't seen it elsewhere. I'd love to see the full context of the quote, and not the cherry picked sentence fragment (assuming it is an actual quote).
 
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I'd love to see the quote from "Joe," it seems to not be in the article you posted and I haven't seen it elsewhere. I'd love to see the full context of the quote, and not the cherry picked sentence fragment (assuming it is an actual quote).
If you have not seen Joe Biden’s attempts to try to defend Hunter Biden, then perhaps you have not been watching the different times that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News has played video clips of Joe Biden trying to defend his son’s business dealings as nothing wrong about them.
 
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While it's sad that sons of our public figures are acting this way, it's clear that Hunter Biden has been engaging in illegal or at least quasi illegal activity for awhile now, and he deserves to go to jail for his actions. It seems that the prosecutors are taking a lesson from Al Capone: if you can't get him for anything else, get him for tax evasion.

At least our criminal justice system is still working to a degree. Praise the Lord.
 
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If you have not seen Joe Biden’s attempts to try to defend Hunter Biden, then perhaps you have not been watching the different times that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News has played video clips of Joe Biden trying to defend his son’s business dealings as nothing wrong about them.

Care to provide examples where the President, rather than just saying certain instances of his son's business dealings were legitimate, instead says that Hunter "did nothing wrong."
 
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I'd love to see the quote from "Joe," it seems to not be in the article you posted and I haven't seen it elsewhere. I'd love to see the full context of the quote, and not the cherry picked sentence fragment (assuming it is an actual quote).
“First of all, my son has done nothing wrong,” Biden said when asked about his son in an interview with MSNBC's Stephanie Ruhle that aired Friday night. "I trust him. I have faith in him.”

"Look, my son did nothing wrong. I did nothing wrong," he said on stage. "I carried out the policy of the United States government in rooting out corruption in Ukraine. And that's what we should be focusing on. And what I wanted to make a point about -- and my son's statement speaks for itself. He spoke about it today. My son's statement speaks for itself."
After the federal investigation into Hunter Biden became public last December, President Biden said is "proud" of his son and "confident" he did nothing wrong.
 
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“The Defendant engaged in a four-year scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019,” Special Counsel David Weiss writes in the 56-page indictment out of the Central District of California.

“In furtherance of that scheme,” Weiss notes that Hunter “subverted the payroll and tax withholding process of his own company, Owasco, PC by withdrawing millions from Owasco, PC” and “spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills.”
Joe said Hunter "did nothing wrong."
That seals the deal for me. I will NOT be voting for Hunter in the next election!

Will you commit to make the same statement regarding the current Republican front-runner who has 91 charges in 4 different active cases against him?
 
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“The Defendant engaged in a four-year scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019,” Special Counsel David Weiss writes in the 56-page indictment out of the Central District of California.

“In furtherance of that scheme,” Weiss notes that Hunter “subverted the payroll and tax withholding process of his own company, Owasco, PC by withdrawing millions from Owasco, PC” and “spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills.”
Joe said Hunter "did nothing wrong."
Wait. I thought DOJ was totally under Biden's control and had been entirely weaponized to politically persecute conservatives and Donald's ardently faithful believers.
 
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Hunter Biden eventually paid all his taxes and fines back in 2020 - with the help of a loan from his personal attorney.

Obviously it doesn't erase the crimes that happened in the previous 4 years, but I think it does mitigate the matter.

But at any rate, the matter is now in the court system. Let the chips, verdicts and/or plea deals fall where they may.
I predict plea deal and the Conservisphere losing its schpedoinkle.

I'm hoping for a heavy sentence and the President pardoning Hunter... after which the Conservisphere becomes Rumpelstiltskin.
 
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To Clarify:

This is DEFINITELY one of those times that we don't need a trial to know that someone is guilty right?

Because I'm starting to suspect that everyone else can be thought of as guilty without a trial, but for former presidents, when THEY are found guilty in a court of law it is because the system is rigged against them and they are the victim of a witchhunt or kangaroo court.

Boy, American politics is pretty hard to keep track of.
 
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Because I'm starting to suspect that everyone else can be thought of as guilty without a trial, but for former presidents, when THEY are found guilty in a court of law it is because the system is rigged against them and they are the victim of a witchhunt or kangaroo court.

Boy, American politics is pretty hard to keep track of.
OK, since you went there, I'll mention this detail that struck me:

The most serious charges stem from 2018, the height of Biden’s addiction.

Those returns [his personal taxes and his business] were prepared in early 2020 by an accounting team in L.A. Prosecutors describe a three-hour meeting that Biden had with the accountants that year where he reviewed records to confirm their accuracy [but] failed to identify several personal expenses


I wonder if anybody else has ever edited and formally confirmed the accuracy of fraudulent financial documents prepared by another firm?
 
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That seals the deal for me. I will NOT be voting for Hunter in the next election!

Will you commit to make the same statement regarding the current Republican front-runner who has 91 charges in 4 different active cases against him?
It's a very reasonable question.
 
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“The Defendant engaged in a four-year scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019,” Special Counsel David Weiss writes in the 56-page indictment out of the Central District of California.

“In furtherance of that scheme,” Weiss notes that Hunter “subverted the payroll and tax withholding process of his own company, Owasco, PC by withdrawing millions from Owasco, PC” and “spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills.”
Joe said Hunter "did nothing wrong."
I doubt anything will happen. He/his attorneys did make that slick attempt to slip in an unprecedented provision stating essentially that Hunter could never be charged for anything if he accepted the plea. The judge thought that was very odd.

We shall see. All it says to me is that the DNC is now considering moving Joe out of the way to permit any coverage that isn't favorable, that might affect re-election (after which he will resign and give it to Kamala or whoever). We haven't seen that except in rogue corners for three solid years.
 
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Vivek Ramaswamy knows what's reaalllly going on.

"The timing of the Hunter Biden tax indictment is one more sign that the deep state is planning to sideline Biden & pick a new puppet for 2024, all the while using this indictment as a perfect fig leaf to claim that the Trump prosecutions aren’t politically motivated. Kills two birds with one stone," Republican entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy wrote in a post on X.

[DeSantis] said he expected Biden to eventually pardon Hunter and that the president's son would never "actually face full justice." He added that he was skeptical of the motivations behind the indictment.

[Meanwhile, Asa Hutchinson offers the kind of common sense response that doomed his bid for a GOP nomination:] "We should stand back and let the case proceed without politics overhanging every court appearance. No one should rejoice in the President’s son being indicted, but I am a rule of law champion, and it seems our system of Justice is working even though it was almost derailed by a premature plea agreement that the Court rejected,"
 
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“The Defendant engaged in a four-year scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019,” Special Counsel David Weiss writes in the 56-page indictment out of the Central District of California.

“In furtherance of that scheme,” Weiss notes that Hunter “subverted the payroll and tax withholding process of his own company, Owasco, PC by withdrawing millions from Owasco, PC” and “spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills.”
Joe said Hunter "did nothing wrong."

I'd say that they really should have worked on that plea deal from earlier that fell apart last minute...but he should have seen this coming.

Everyone has seen the Democratic Party stonewall and avoid accountability in any way for their grievous crimes and it looks like they'll sacrifice this guy to claim they do have accountability.

A bagman for crooks.
 
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I doubt anything will happen. He/his attorneys did make that slick attempt to slip in an unprecedented provision stating essentially that Hunter could never be charged for anything if he accepted the plea. The judge thought that was very odd.

We shall see. All it says to me is that the DNC is now considering moving Joe out of the way to permit any coverage that isn't favorable, that might affect re-election (after which he will resign and give it to Kamala or whoever). We haven't seen that except in rogue corners for three solid years.
That's not what happened. Hunter's lawyers did not try pull the wool over anyone. It's the Weiss team that she took to task over the agreement.

"But early in the hearing, it became clear that Noreika, also a Trump appointee, found the deal concerning, describing some of the provisions as “not standard” and “different from what I normally see.” It consisted of two parts: the plea agreement to resolve the tax charges and the diversion agreement to resolve the gun charge. In the diversion agreement, however, the Justice Department also committed not to bring charges against Biden for actions related to the tax plea deal
The judge said she couldn’t find another example of a diversion agreement so broad that it shielded the defendant from charges in a different case. Leo Wise, a prosecutor working for Weiss, told the judge he also was unaware of any such precedent."
 
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Vivek Ramaswamy knows what's reaalllly going on.

"The timing of the Hunter Biden tax indictment is one more sign that the deep state is planning to sideline Biden & pick a new puppet for 2024, all the while using this indictment as a perfect fig leaf to claim that the Trump prosecutions aren’t politically motivated. Kills two birds with one stone," Republican entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy wrote in a post on X.

[DeSantis] said he expected Biden to eventually pardon Hunter and that the president's son would never "actually face full justice." He added that he was skeptical of the motivations behind the indictment.

[Meanwhile, Asa Hutchinson offers the kind of common sense response that doomed his bid for a GOP nomination:] "We should stand back and let the case proceed without politics overhanging every court appearance. No one should rejoice in the President’s son being indicted, but I am a rule of law champion, and it seems our system of Justice is working even though it was almost derailed by a premature plea agreement that the Court rejected,"

I don't think Ramaswamy is totally off...but I don't think he exactly has it right either. They wouldn't run Biden if they had another candidate. Harris is just as big a dud as Biden. Nobody wants them. Polls show when you ask Democratic voters if they want Biden to run or if they would prefer another candidate....the answer is they'd prefer another candidate.

When asked for a candidate they would like from the Democratic Party....the overwhelming majority can't name a single candidate they think would be good.

When the Dems switched over to this hyper racial, hyper sexual, identity based politics post-Obama (because they genuinely saw it as the way forward based on voting and demographics) they failed to understand that politics isn't merely skin deep. You can tell everyone they are on a team with you....and you're fighting against a common enemy, but once you win, you have to decide what gets done. That's when you learn that you're not really on a team...you're in a racial/sexual caste system....and it's pretty gross. White people? Never need to consider their problems. They don't even have problems. In fact, white people are so low that even being a gay white man gets you no consideration. White women, same thing. Jews? You're white people, unless you are being personally threatened by white people who aren't jews. That's really just an excuse to hate the other white people though....

Asians and Muslims. I'll throw them together here since the left doesn't even seem to understand anything about these people or cultures or values. Asians value merit and spend a lot of time on self improvement (generally) and they hate what the left has done in schools. Muslims too...but because they are very spiritual and far more bigoted towards gay and queer communities than any other. I'm not saying to hate them for it...they are entitled to their beliefs, but that's what it is. Muslims don't show up for gay people or jews especially and its not a secret why.


Then moving up this gross ladder of superficial narcissistic authority we have the latinos....who tend to hold strong family values, and be Christian. If they are gay or queer or whatever....they actually face rejection more often than from the white people. They tend to like traditional masculine men and feminine women. They don't matter much, so I'll move on....

Black men are closer to the top, particularly if they're victims of anyone but black men...the group they are most often victims of. Seems like a problem. If you're a gay black man or educated black man or successful black man...you have to abide a strict code of "blackness" or face having your blackness removed. I don't really understand why that's important to them, but it is....to a lot of them. It sounds terrible but at least you'll never be asked to hold yourself accountable for anything by the left. At most, you might have to issue a short apology.

Black women particularly the queer Marxist sort are all the way at the tippy top...unless you're trans...but this makes sense, because they came up with this stuff lol "intersectionality". Unfortunately, these aren't reasons to listen to anyone or believe them...and they aren't actually oppressed. They can't find another place in the whole world better to be a black female queer Marxist.

Trans people- leap frogged everyone. You're oppressed by society? Sounds nice...they're oppressed by life. They blame life and demand everyone else adjust accordingly. If you don't...they'll kill themselves.

So while I agree with Vivek generally, without any central values, basic agreement on problems or solutions, there's no clear direction nor candidate for the left to even put forth.
 
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