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"Scientists have fabricated a consensus that global warming is bad so that they can get grant money." Sure sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.
I don't see where I said that - can you point it out?
Yep.Wait, before reviewing anything that could be redundant information for me, that might only tell me what I already know, let me just state a general thing I already know, first:
"Additionally, the global frequency of storms may decrease or remain unchanged, but hurricanes that form are more likely to become intense."
A Force of Nature: Hurricanes in a Changing Climate - NASA Science
We've broken down everything you need to know about hurricanes, how scientists are using global climate models to predict storm intensity, and how climate change is having an impact.climate.nasa.gov
So, for now, fewer, but worse.
Ok?
Now, did you have really new information there for me to see? (but let me warn you, if it tries to claim climate is cooling that won't be a legit article as the evidence is very overwhelming that climate is warming over decades of time)
Actually, no. And that is because it is not what I said. To use a comparable example: Police, like everyone else, get raises and promotions based on performance. i.e. tickets written, etc. It means that every person they stop for any traffic infraction is a potential career building moment. There may be a stash of drugs in your car or you may be drunk, or they may hit the jackpot with a drug mule. The result is that cops can be very tenacious if they think one of the above is true - to the point of harrassing innocent civilians or, sometimes, even PLANTING drugs.
Actually, storm activity decreased. There is a good list of articles and discussion here: Not a Billion Dollar Disaster
And the good news about change is that it is very slow. Slow enough that the local culture can adapt. e.g. they can start planting orange trees and vineyards in the Sahara and Siberia.
But I posted a video a few posts up that discusses what's happening.
Also, I noticed a crucial mistake in the article linked.Actually, storm activity decreased. There is a good list of articles and discussion here: Not a Billion Dollar Disaster
And the good news about change is that it is very slow. Slow enough that the local culture can adapt. e.g. they can start planting orange trees and vineyards in the Sahara and Siberia.
But I posted a video a few posts up that discusses what's happening.
Sure, but if you take that information and extrapolate the conclusion that all police are corrupt and none of their actions are in genuine service to the law, but rather to their own self-interest (just as you posit that the idea of a "scientific consensus" is nothing more than a scheme to get grant money, and that secretly, scientists are all wrong about global warming - and know it), THAT is a conspiracy theory.
Could you give me a source for that chart? Reading and creating charts was part of my job before I retired. I'd like to see where they got the backing information, and what, exactly, is a "severe storm"? I know a few years ago they started naming storms like they've named hurricanes for a very long time.
Actually, what you say does make some sense. However, there is another factor that he shows in another article: The development in the coastlines hit by the storms. When a storm hits a highly populated area it will kill more people. It will also do more property damage.
I was just making the argument that what I said is not a conspiracy theory but, in fact, the argument that deniers are "bought and paid for by the oil industry" IS a conspiracy theory.
Could you give me a source for that chart? Reading and creating charts was part of my job before I retired. I'd like to see where they got the backing information, and what, exactly, is a "severe storm"? I know a few years ago they started naming storms like they've named hurricanes for a very long time.
Actually, what you say does make some sense. However, there is another factor that he shows in another article: The development in the coastlines hit by the storms. When a storm hits a highly populated area it will kill more people. It will also do more property damage.
There's actually no opinion expressed there. Just two maps with different and clearly labeled data sources that are showing different things on different scales. And an illogical implication in the headline.
Technically, yer right. I suppose I'm talking about the inferences it creates regarding the data used to make the "hottest year" claim. But I'll just leave with that. I forgot I was not going to get into this AGW stuff any more. That ship sailed for me years ago. I have more pressing things and that dead horse has been beaten by me with literally thousands of posts over the last 15 years.
From NOAA.
On Friday, the planet soared 2.07 degrees Celsius above preindustrial levels, or the 1850 to 1900 average, according to Europe’s Copernicus Climate Change Service. [It was above 2 degrees on Saturday also.]
Define "science site".
It'll usually have a .gov or .edu URL.
Propaganda is usually packaged that way.
I'm not dismissing Dr. Curry out of hand, but as an analogy, she's a maverick about global warming the way Alan Fedducia and John Ruben are mavericks about bird evolution. They all accept the consensus to a certain point, but not all the way.Here is a "respected" scientist, if it more fits your needs. The article is from 2010:
Climate Heretic: Judith Curry Turns on Her Colleagues
Why can't we have a civil conversation about climate?www.scientificamerican.com
And this recent interview sort of drives the point home:
