Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?

Ken-1122 said:

But their business is not running the Country.

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They run the country more that our puppet politicians

SilverBear said:

White Workers More Likely to Get Good Jobs at Every Level of Education

Racial Bias in Hiring Practices Widens the Black-White Wealth Disparity

Another Reason Top Managers Are Disproportionally White Men

New research shows racial discrimination in hiring is still happening at the earliest stages

White Men Disproportionately Win Job Referrals, Get Higher Pay Out of Them

I await your blanket denials

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Well first of all your first link doesn't tell us what the jobs were or what the bachelor's degrees were in, or even the school where they went.

I mean I've even heard it on this forum from leftists that if you don't have a degree from certain schools they are not interested in what you have to say.

And what your degree is in also matters as to the kinda of jobs you get.
It's kind of a useless article just written to claim that there is this gigantic systemic racist bias in all these places.

rjs330 said:

Well first of all your first link doesn't tell us what the jobs were or what the bachelor's degrees were in, or even the school where they went.

I mean I've even heard it on this forum from leftists that if you don't have a degree from certain schools they are not interested in what you have to say.

And what your degree is in also matters as to the kinda of jobs you get.
It's kind of a useless article just written to claim that there is this gigantic systemic racist bias in all these places.

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"Certain schools" like top law schools.
The top law firms won't interview anyone
who didn't perform near the top of their
class in one of the best law schools.

rturner76 said:

They run the country more that our puppet politicians

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Examples? Or am I supposed to assume because you said it, therefore it is true.

Ken-1122 said:

Examples? Or am I supposed to assume because you said it, therefore it is true.

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It belongs in the conspiracy section.

SilverBear said:

White Workers More Likely to Get Good Jobs at Every Level of Education

Racial Bias in Hiring Practices Widens the Black-White Wealth Disparity

Another Reason Top Managers Are Disproportionally White Men

New research shows racial discrimination in hiring is still happening at the earliest stages

White Men Disproportionately Win Job Referrals, Get Higher Pay Out of Them

I await your blanket denials

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Your second link has the typical study on names. Ana already addressed that and I'd like to add another thing. Nothing is provided as to what names were used particularly for the white people. What names did they use? I'd like a list. Did they use names like

Antonin Svobodova
Vonislav Pospisil
Magdalena Kowalski
Olowia Wojciechowski
Jeronim Crnkovic
Genevieve Dubois
Audrienne Archambault

Those are white people names. What names were used? I think they van spin the outcomes of these things to what they want based upon the names used just to be able to say, "see it's systemic racism".

rturner76 said:

Good for you, now let go of your prejudice.

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Did that long ago before adulthood...it's easier for some us.

rturner76 said:

Unless you are incapable of doing that. Then do you

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Sure @rturner76....my reaction to southern accents luckily never held them back.

rturner76 said:

Not for being white but maybe for being a racist

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I'm not racist....again it seems like you're just assuming that because I'm white.

Ken-1122 said:

Examples? Or am I supposed to assume because you said it, therefore it is true.

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Yeah I guess you have no clue what is going on around you. You think it's all hunky dory but corporate America runs the politicans

Ana the Ist said:

I'm not racist....again it seems like you're just assuming that because I'm white.

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I am assuming that because you are trying to convince us that racism isn't happening.

rjs330 said:

Well first of all your first link doesn't tell us what the jobs were or what the bachelor's degrees were in, or even the school where they went.

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Neither does this:

but you take it as gospel. Why?

Ana the Ist said:

I'm not racist....again it seems like you're just assuming that because I'm white.

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Being white doesn't make anybody a racist. It takes a long history of disparaging attacking black people to do that. Like your recent post here where you wondered just how many of the black students at Harvard could have even gotten into the school without affirmative action and when you found out it was about 25 students in the current class you went into denial.

rturner76 said:

I am assuming that because you are trying to convince us that racism isn't happening.

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I've pointed out racism happening.

What I'm actually showing though is not only how little people care about it...but who actually excuses and supports it.

SilverBear said:

Being white doesn't make anybody a racist.

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Brave....so brave. Let's hear it for @SilverBear

SilverBear said:

It takes a long history of disparaging attacking black people to do that.

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Oh ok....what about a long history of disparaging and attacking white people??

Could we say those people are racist?

SilverBear said:

Like your recent post here where you wondered just how many of the black students at Harvard could have even gotten into the school without affirmative action

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That's a reasonable question one would need to ask in response to your statement.

SilverBear said:

and when you found out it was about 25 students in the current class you went into denial.

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No...it said only 25 were below the minimum standards. It didn't say "we only let these 25 in because of affirmative action and no one else ever benefits from affirmative action".


See the wide difference between what was said and what you claimed?

SilverBear said:

Neither does this:

Poll shows hiring managers discriminating against white men - Washington Examiner

It must be all that white privilege going around the country, but a recent survey showed that 1 in 6 hiring managers was asked not to hire white males. That's the discriminatory behavior implemented in companies throughout the country, according to data from ResumeBuilder. It's obviously...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

but you take it as gospel. Why?

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It's rather rare to see hiring managers openly admitting to racism. We know that will affect outcomes regardless of college degree because those are the literal gatekeepers of employment.

It's rare....because back when we pursued the idea that all racism was bad....being racist was so taboo you didn't risk your job or reputation for it.


Now however, we excuse some racism....directed at some groups....and that racism has become widespread and openly admitted to.


I should clarify that when I say "we" I don't mean me.

rturner76 said:

Yeah I guess you have no clue what is going on around you. You think it's all hunky dory but corporate America runs the politicans

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You've said that already! You're repeating the same thing over and over; it's time to back it up with an outside source, or just admit it is your opinion. Sorry but your word just isn't good enough.

rturner76 said:

I am assuming that because you are trying to convince us that racism isn't happening.

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I think you have missed the topic of this thread. The topic of this thread is not "does racism still exist?" The topic is "Does systemic racism exist?"

If the topic was does racism exist it would be a very short thread. Cause all of us would most likely say yes, racism exists.

So no one here is trying to convince you or anyone that racism does not exist.

Ana the Ist said:

I've pointed out racism happening.

What I'm actually showing though is not only how little people care about it...but who actually excuses and supports it.

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Or how little you care about it

SilverBear said:

Neither does this:

Poll shows hiring managers discriminating against white men - Washington Examiner

It must be all that white privilege going around the country, but a recent survey showed that 1 in 6 hiring managers was asked not to hire white males. That's the discriminatory behavior implemented in companies throughout the country, according to data from ResumeBuilder. It's obviously...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

but you take it as gospel. Why?

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This was a survey from actual managers where they actually admitted to doing it and what they were asked to do by their business.

It's not an article simply looking at statistics without any clarification.

Ken-1122 said:

You've said that already! You're repeating the same thing over and over; it's time to back it up with an outside source, or just admit it is your opinion. Sorry but your word just isn't good enough.

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I know you only believe the white mans word