Covid-19 & discernible relationship between % of population fully vaccinated & new COVID-19 cases

stevil said:

There is a problem
Unvaccinated people are overwhelming the healthcare system, which impacts other would be patients.
Unvaccinated people are catching and spreading the disease at a higher rate than the vaccinated, so they are prolonging this pandemic, they giving the virus more chances to mutate, and they are keeping the disease alive and well in society and so putting everyone at risk.

To beat a pandemic, society needs people to work together as a team. The few can spoil it for the many.
People aren't demanding others to get vaccinated in order to make them feel more comfortable. People are highly requesting others to get vaccinated in order to save lives, and to open up the economy and to get on with life.

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If people would just understand this. Really at this point I believe that many don't want to work together and hate society.

I keep hearing "my body, my choice!" about the vaccine, do you know who else says that? Abortionist and abortion advocates say the same exact thing. Congratulations you who say that have a lot in common with those who want abortions now

I got COVID-19 vaccinations, my brother and parents got the COVID-19 vaccinations. We still social distance and wear mask. We know we cant trust people , because they dont believe in COVID-19 vaccinations ,social distancing and wearing and wearing a mask. We plan to get the booster. And just try to stay away from people, that don't care to protect themselves or other people.

Aldebaran said:

As far as they can tell....
So no investigation then.

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They investigated well enough to know the story was fabricated. No 2-year-old was eligible to be in or was in a clinical trial at the time of that report, so no 2-year-old died after the Pfizer shot when that report was made. Not much more investigation you can perform into a death once you have shown the death did not occur unless you wish to charge those fabricating the report.

Why are people quoting Israel? Their vaccination rate really, truly isn't all that great at all

BrotherJJ said:

If this post was directed to me. First, the OP made NO reference to abortion. Secondly, I'd would like to go on the record saying I have ZERO in common with supporters of abortion.

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If one says "my body, my choice" that is exactly what abortion advocates say so yes people that say that now have something in common with abortion advocates. The post was directed at anyone that uses that phrase. To use that phrase for oneself then protest others, absolute hypocrisy

Aldebaran said:

The abortion activists do not exclusively own the idea of a person being able to choose what happens to their own body. So don't give them that ability to take away your right to choose what goes into your own body.

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Okay.
“My body, my choice”?
Fine.
People who do not want vaccines don’t have to get them
Women who seek abortions can get them.

Aldebaran said:

If you're fully vaxxed with a safe and effective vaccine, why do you still fear your fellow man?

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Who said anything about fear?

Aldebaran said:

If you're fully vaxxed with a safe and effective vaccine, why do you still fear your fellow man?

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I fear foolish people in general. People that decline vaccination without good reason are foolish. And they are the primary obstacle in bringing the pandemic under control.

Taodeching said:

If people would just understand this. Really at this point I believe that many don't want to work together and hate society.

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It's because people understand that they are resisting mandates that make no sense.

Case in point: Netherlands = 90% vaccinated

Dutch vaccination rate rises to 90% - Netherlands News Live

Netherlands - just placed on the Do Not Travel list because of the high rates of infection.

Germany is doing the same thing, though it has the common sense to at least direct young people to avoid the Moderna because of risk of clots.

These are just waves and nothing was going to change the trajectory. We just prolonged it.

"Am I My Brother's Keeper?: The Thread"

Coming to CF -- over, and over, and over, and over...

BrotherJJ said:

What it (the science) does say is: Taking the mRNA vaccines do nothing against the spread of the covid-19 virus.

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I don't think it says that at all...

There's a wide gap between "do nothing" and "sterilizing immunity"

High levels of transmission (in an environment where more people are going out and mingling, compared to the levels 6 months ago) doesn't mean that it's not reducing transmission.

If the vectors of transmission are increasing by a larger percentage than what the vaccination offers in terms of transmission reduction, then I would expect that to be the outcome.

Or to put it in a more simple analogy.

If there were a bulletproof vest that offered protection against 6 out of every 10 times you got shot, but you're putting yourself in the line of fire 10x more than you were 6 months ago, I would expect your risk of getting injured to be more now than it was 6 months ago.

That doesn't mean that the vest is "less protective", it means that people are "tempting fate/playing the odds" more regularly than they were before.

dzheremi said:

"Am I My Brother's Keeper?: The Thread"

Coming to CF -- over, and over, and over, and over...

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Yep. They abandon Christian love and Charity for complete selfishness. As Christ said "Such will be the spread of evil that many people's love will grow cold." Matthew 24:12