This pastor will sign a religious exemption for vaccines if you donate to his church

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I can safely say that they are, but it just isn't as polarized.

For instance, a hospital system in Arkansas is willing to grant the religious exemption based on the "fetal cell lines" argument to their employees, provided the employees are willing to sign a religious attestation form, saying that do not, and will not, use the following medications:

acetaminophen,
albuterol,
aspirin,
ibuprofen,
Tylenol,
Pepto Bismol,
Tums,
Lipitor,
Senokot,
Motrin,
Maalox,
Ex-Lax,
Benadryl,
Sudafed,
Preparation H,
Claritin,
Prilosec,
Zoloft,
Z-pak

You'd be hard pressed to find a person who hasn't at least taken one of those things. And most probably have taken some of those things quite a lot in their lifetime.

And the interesting one they didn't list on here, but was developed using cell lines: The Regeneron monoclonal antibody treatment (that many who don't want to get vaccinated are promoting). The same would be true for Z-pak I suppose since before that, people were touting the hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin combo as an alternative to vaccination.


So, if those employees (who claim to be deeply religious, which means they shouldn't be lying) truly take objection to the cell line use. They should stay away from all of the aforementioned medications and treatments.

That list includes a large number of medicines developed prior to any fetal cell lines being used in research.
 
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That list includes a large number of medicines developed prior to any fetal cell lines being used in research.

It doesn't have to be the original creation (although that would apply to many of them), R&D doesn't necessarily apply to just the original discovery or invention, but any further research and refinement of the drug.

A couple of other articles discussing this:
https://www.kark.com/news/health/co...nt-use-other-meds-tested-on-fetal-cell-lines/

Prove it, hospital asks unvaccinated employees claiming religious exemption

In which case, if you've taken the modern form of those drugs, you've taken something that was made available, in part, to fetal cell line research.
 
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Claiming that taking a covid vaccine makes one complicit in abortion based on the fact that decades-old fetal cell lines were used in the R&D process, is as intellectually dishonest as claiming that taking Bayer aspirin makes one complicit in the holocaust.
I get that aborted fetuses were used for the production of some medicines, whether or not that recommends anything to us as far as us taking that medicine or refusing it is concerned, but...

what's the argument for how aspirin could "make one complicit in the holocaust??"

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From a government standpoint, perhaps.

However, certain private entities are requiring a signed letter from clergy in order to excuse their employees from a vaccine requirement.

California pastor hands out COVID-19 vaccine exemption letters

For instance, this pastor in this other story was handing them out for people whose employers were requiring vaccination, or a signed letter from their clergy.
They have no legal authority to require certain hoops. Individuals have a federally (and constitutionally) protected right to seek religious accommodations from employers.
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2021/09/15/pastor-donate-vaccine-religious-exemption/


Couple of quick questions:
1) Which religious doctrine, specifically, forbids vaccination?

2) If the answer to question 1 is anything to do with the fact that R&D was done with decades-old fetal tissue cell lines, then I'd urge you to "do the research" as the same would be true with many of the medications you currently have in your medicine cabinet right now. Claiming that taking a covid vaccine makes one complicit in abortion based on the fact that decades-old fetal cell lines were used in the R&D process, is as intellectually dishonest as claiming that taking Bayer aspirin makes one complicit in the holocaust.

3) If one is invoking God using the aforementioned reasoning for this particular vaccine as a matter of political convenience, but not applying that standard to every other medication they take (that's not politically polarized), wouldn't that be taking God's name in vain?...or at the very least, cheapening it?
Jesus' reaction to this kind of commerce that is rooted in a professed belief in God is that He reacted violently the only time we see in the Bible.
 
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I know of at least 2 or 3 potential reasons on this

1) A few sects do not like modern medicine at all and want everything to be by Faith etc. it's a small minority of groups like Christian Science, a few Pentecostals

Christian Science actually supports vaccination for reasons of public health. That is a frequently misunderstood aspect of their doctrines.
 
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