Mr. M
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I am not talking about by products or carts and horses. The new birth no doubt precedes all understanding. In John 5, the Lord is claiming all authority to make this happen. You insist thatThose are the by product or results from one who is born again. You are putting the cart before the horse.
this does not include the new birth itself. He is teaching what He has spoken previously to Nicodemus, but in the context of the authority He has been given from the Father.
John 5:
24 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me
has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. [Dead physically or spiritually? A simple question]
26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself.
When someone has been born again, per John 3:7, they have passed from death to life,
they have access to the eternal life that is in Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. This is
not a by product. This is life and that more abundantly. He does not speak of resurrection,
and judgment until verse 28. That also pertains to His authority, which is to judge all.
Jesus is making a definitive statement here, that He alone has all authority to grant the
new birth/new life spoken of earlier in His talk with Nicodemus. This is not cart before horse,
this is teaching in more detail pertaining to the same subject. Otherwise, what does John 5
tell us? Calling this incredibly detailed teaching a "by product" surely requires a better explanation.
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