Biden to resume building the wall.

wing2000 · Apr 12, 2021

Speedwell said:
Good question. The other problem is, if a barrier is constructed which is not the same as the "wall" Trump originally promised or the "wall" (fence) he actually started, is it still a "wall?"

Just to be clear, you are referring to the "Big, Beautiful Wall" that Trump promised through 2017-18, before quietly relenting and going with a CBP design - the steel bollard fence.

The eight prototypes built at a cost of 5 million dollars (since demolished in 2019....)
Donald Trump's 8 border wall prototypes demolished in San Diego

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GoldenBoy89 · Apr 12, 2021

OldWiseGuy said:
That's not what he led us to believe regarding Trump's wall.

Trumps wall was supposed to span the entire border and be paid for by Mexico. I don’t remember you criticizing Trump for not delivering on those promises.

GoldenBoy89 · Apr 12, 2021

OldWiseGuy said:
Voters are responsible for the halt in wall construction (as well as the immigrant surge), not Trump.

Do you believe that the current surge would have happened if Trump had been reelected, regardless of the wall being unfinished?

Yes.

GoldenBoy89 · Apr 12, 2021

Albion said:
This fellow, Biden, really seems uncertain of what he ought to do. And it's not just about the border.

Maybe he is faced with continually deciding between the conflicting demands of the different people who agreed to let him be the presidential nominee of his party so long as he didn't do too much thinking for himself.

It’s almost like he’s some kind of centrist and not a radical leftist at all like so many on the right wanted us to believe.

OldWiseGuy · Apr 12, 2021

GoldenBoy89 said:
Trumps wall was supposed to span the entire border and be paid for by Mexico. I don’t remember you criticizing Trump for not delivering on those promises.

I criticized him at first for not building the fence that I suggested.

OldWiseGuy · Apr 12, 2021

Speedwell said:
We did, and rejected it. The situation at the border is a mess, and the Biden administration has yet to come to grips with it. But building a flimsy fence (not a wall) which can be cut through in a few minutes with a $49 reciprocating saw available at several convenient Home Depot stores just south of the border isn't a solution, either.

If you can see through it you can cut through it. It had to be 'see-through', so there you go.

NxNW · Apr 12, 2021

Oompa Loompa said:
But if wall was built "where none previously existed", did they not build new wall? Please explain.

Yes, but they only did this for 0.25% of the border. Almost nonexistent.

FireDragon76 · Apr 13, 2021

Speedwell said:
Biden never pledged not to construct or improve physical barriers where necessary. Indeed, that has always been part of Democratic policy.

People forget that the Democrat party for the past 30 years or so has been a conservative party. The number of people in national politics in the US that are genuinely left of center can be counted on one hand.

98cwitr · Apr 13, 2021

FireDragon76 said:
People forget that the Democrat party for the past 30 years or so has been a conservative party. The number of people in national politics in the US that are genuinely left of center can be counted on one hand.

What have they attempted to conserve?

Aldebaran · Apr 13, 2021

FireDragon76 said:
People forget that the Democrat party for the past 30 years or so has been a conservative party. The number of people in national politics in the US that are genuinely left of center can be counted on one hand.

That would mean that all the drastic extreme leftist policies that are being pushed on the population of the United States is being done by no more than 5 people?

RestoreTheJoy · Apr 14, 2021

civilwarbuff said:
He also mentioned 'cages' in criticism I believe to the Trump admin. Wonder if he now regrets those words? Heck, I wonder if he even remembers saying them?

Both are good questions.

FireDragon76 · Apr 15, 2021

98cwitr said:
What have they attempted to conserve?

Most democrats have been neoliberals, not that different from Ronald Reagan. Biden included.

Biden to resume building the wall.

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