Is Joe Biden a Dictator?

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That is not my reasoning, but something you created in order to dodge what you have gotten yourself into here.

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You are essentually saying it is bad fundamentalism to take book X, the bible in this case (as opposed to the Quran), and say we believe it and that settles it.

See, that is exactly what I try to do with the bible...I believe it, and that settles it. Oh, and God has been known to use "force and violence", are you not aware of that? Or do you just disagree with him, in that he should not use it?

I don't believe in God. As in, I don't believe the Christian God exists. So it would be like me speculating on the dietary habits of Winnie the Poo or the shoe size of Cinderella.

Then you are not a Christian?

And may I ask what this "other religion" is?

No. I am not a Christian.

"Other religion" is just that, other religion. I do not belong to an organized religion, but I do not consider myself unspiritual or uninterested in such things. I just have no faith in the Bible or Christianity.
 
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I don't believe in God. As in, I don't believe the Christian God exists. So it would be like me speculating on the dietary habits of Winnie the Poo or the shoe size of Cinderella.



No. I am not a Christian.

"Other religion" is just that, other religion. I do not belong to an organized religion, but I do not consider myself unspiritual or uninterested in such things. I just have no faith in the Bible or Christianity.

I see you say "other religion" is just that, but what exactly is an "Other religion". Always wondered what one means by that?
 
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Everyone says this re executive orders made by the "other side".

But for executive overreach, its not the number that matters, its the content.
Have you seen the content? Look what he is voting no for.
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I don't believe in God. As in, I don't believe the Christian God exists. So it would be like me speculating on the dietary habits of Winnie the Poo or the shoe size of Cinderella.



No. I am not a Christian.

"Other religion" is just that, other religion. I do not belong to an organized religion, but I do not consider myself unspiritual or uninterested in such things. I just have no faith in the Bible or Christianity.
So why are you here? Why would you come on a Christian Forum site if you have no interest in our beliefs? I don't go to Atheist sites and try to converse with people I have nothing in common with spiritually and there aren't any blank pamphlets here.
 
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So why are you here? Why would you come on a Christian Forum site if you have no interest in our beliefs? I don't go to Atheist sites and try to converse with people I have nothing in common with spiritually and there aren't any blank pamphlets here.

I used to be a Christian and have posted here off and on for years.

As far as I know, I'm not in violation of any of the ToS or forum rules.
 
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I see you say "other religion" is just that, but what exactly is an "Other religion". Always wondered what one means by that?

I suppose it means different things to different people.

Not everybody belongs to a religion in this world. I don't wish to identify as "atheist" because that has specific conotations in American culture that I don't identify with.
 
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I suppose it means different things to different people.

Not everybody belongs to a religion in this world. I don't wish to identify as "atheist" because that has specific conotations in American culture that I don't identify with.
I like the way you phrased that. I am listed as "other religion" as well. I'm an Anglican but I don't identify as "Christian" because it has specific connotations in American culture that I don't identify with. Thanks.
 
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I used to be a Christian and have posted here off and on for years.
What did you previously believe that you believe established you to be a Christian and what do you no longer believe that you believe now disqualifies you to be a Christian?
 
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So why are you here? Why would you come on a Christian Forum site if you have no interest in our beliefs? I don't go to Atheist sites and try to converse with people I have nothing in common with spiritually and there aren't any blank pamphlets here.

For myself, I like debating with people I don't agree with. It allows me to hear different points of view, and challenges my own. I find only debating with people I agree with kinda boring, frankly.

-- A2SG, if I find myself in a room with all liberals, I'd probably be in a corner discussing Star Trek vs Star Wars.....
 
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I suppose it means different things to different people.

Not everybody belongs to a religion in this world. I don't wish to identify as "atheist" because that has specific conotations in American culture that I don't identify with.

I see, and thanks.
 
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I like the way you phrased that. I am listed as "other religion" as well. I'm an Anglican but I don't identify as "Christian" because it has specific connotations in American culture that I don't identify with. Thanks.
I like this . I’ve been praying for so long to god about this .
I tell him I can’t stand Christianity in this country and what it stands for(don’t want to be associated with that ) .
I want and have a personal relationship with him but I don’t want the label or religion .
 
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I see you say "other religion" is just that, but what exactly is an "Other religion". Always wondered what one means by that?
A lot of us are “soft atheists”; think along the lines of “non-denominational” but with respect to all religions instead of just Christianity.
Or as they say in 12 step groups, “take what you need and leave the rest”.
 
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Have you seen the content? Look what he is voting no for.

1. We can't "see the content" in your links because they ARE JUST SCREEN SHOTS.

2. These are (and the thread is about) *executive orders*. There is no voting involved.

If you'd like to discuss one or three of them and their merits here is a list with links to the actual text to help in that effort:

List of executive actions by Joe Biden - Wikipedia
 
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As a Christian, best way to stop abortion is by witnessing to others, sharing Gospel with unbeliever, personal evangelism, and going on your knee and pray for others , pray for lost soul , pray for mission filed, and pray for the nation. Many Christians in USA, they don’t want to do none of that because those are the things which are Biblical, those are the things Biblical teaching. But they want to elect politician and ban abortion! They put more faith in politician to do “biblical thing” then Christ.

Which is why states that are the most Christian have some of the highest abortion rates and unplanned pregnancies, while secular states that have comprehensive sex education and such are lower?
 
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Of course it is. See this is a Christian site, and the bible says God has his hands on the laws, and many here believe what that bible states. So like it, or agree with it, or not, once again, of course it is a rationale.

Nope, sorry unless you want Islam, or Satanism, or Hinduism or other religions dictating laws in the states, you don't want this to be a Christian nation, but good try.
 
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Ummm. Yeah it is. Why are we a secular nation? Our money doesn't say that and last time I testified in court, I didn't put my hand on the Qur'an.

Because it was put there during the red scare period, and wasn't there or in the pledge till 50's when right wing Christians went overboard and tried to force religion on others. Better question is, if it's a Christian nation why did it take over a hundred and fifty years for god to be put in the pledge or on money and such?
 
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A lot of us are “soft atheists”; think along the lines of “non-denominational” but with respect to all religions instead of just Christianity.
Or as they say in 12 step groups, “take what you need and leave the rest”.

Yes, that's sort of where I am at.

Atheists and agnostics are too wedded to materialism and a rationalistic worldview. But otherwise I would at times share similar attitudes, I suppose.

Valerie Tarico has an interesting perspective, as far as the freethinker community goes.
 
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What did you previously believe that you believe established you to be a Christian and what do you no longer believe that you believe now disqualifies you to be a Christian?

I found Pascale's Wager persuasive at one time as a reason to submit to the Christian church. Now I don't. The calculus has shifted and I believe it's a very bad bet. Almost certainly wrong in important ways, and I find myself even unable to justify Christian adherence from a pragmatic point of view.

I believe in a moral order in the universe and I suppose I am something like a polytheist or panentheist. Asian religions have influenced me a great deal, particularly Shinto and Chinese folk religion. So has reading Marie Kondo of all people, a housecleaning guru who is popular right now, and her philosophy is imbued with Shinto. Letting go of things that don't make you happy is central to her philosophy and I suppose it's inspired me to let go of everything that I find a drag.
 
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I like this . I’ve been praying for so long to god about this .
I tell him I can’t stand Christianity in this country and what it stands for(don’t want to be associated with that ) .
I want and have a personal relationship with him but I don’t want the label or religion .

I think that's perfectly OK. If you have a strong attachment to the Christian religion, you can't just ignore that.

As for me, as an adult, Christianity was my reluctant spiritual home, at best. But that's not true for everybody. I am far from suggesting anybody imitate me in leaving the Christian faith. I do not believe in one-size-fits all answers to those kinds of big questions in life. I would, however, like to see the Christian majority of the US stop bringing harm and ruin into the world in the name of a self-righteous and totalizing ideology that excludes other perspectives.
 
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