At least these attempts to drag the thread off topic aren't burdened by trying to rationalize how a terrorist literally attacking a room holding the second in command of the United States government was shot "for no real reason".Are you willing to go on the record and say that all those who were killed at a BLM protest died because of an ideology? Are you willing to go on the record and say that all those who were murdered by BLM "protesters" were killed because of the ideology of their murderers?
No, because that would be false. It would also be false to say that those killed on Wednesday died because of an ideology. They died because they were caught up in outrage fomented by the President.Are you willing to go on the record and say that all those who were killed at a BLM protest died because of an ideology? Are you willing to go on the record and say that all those who were murdered by BLM "protesters" were killed because of the ideology of their murderers?
One could argue that the violence caused by BLM was a direct result of the lie of systemic racism. A lie perpetuated by the left to include Joe Biden. Who then is responsible for that? For the record, I am not defending illegal actions of the Trump protesters. But I don't understand how anyone who showed any support for the BLM movement has the moral authority to denounce what happened on the capital. In my opinion, the only ones who have the right to denounce this behavior are the ones who have been denouncing the violence all year. Hint, that isn't the Democratic politicians or their followers.Of course. But there is no reasonable way to compare the violent behavior associated with some of the BLM demonstrations and the violent behavior associated with Wednesday's storming of Congress until you relinquish the big lie that the election was "stolen." In fact, the violence on Wednesday is, if anything, more to be excused than the violence which accompanied some of the BLM demonstrations last summer, because the big lie which motivated it was fostered by no less a person than the President of the United States himself.
She died in the process of participating in a premeditated attack on the government she swore to serve while she was in the armed forces. She knew the risks and potential consequences of waging war and she chose to do it anyway.
I agree. However, I wasn't asking you the question. I was asking @ArmenianJohn who is making the claim.No, because that would be false. It would also be false to say that those killed on Wednesday died because of an ideology. They died because they were caught up in outrage fomented by the President.
They didn't do so in the face of real revolutionaries in Portland and Minneapolis and, indeed, in numerous other cities which have recently seen Marxist violence.
Hang on for a while. They will make monument of her and put next to Robert E Lee and the inscription will say “ a patriot who stood up to tyranny “
A lot of assumptions in that post.One could argue that the violence caused by BLM was a direct result of the lie of systemic racism. A lie perpetuated by the left to include Joe Biden. Who then is responsible for that? For the record, I am not defending illegal actions of the Trump protesters. But I don't understand how anyone who showed any support for the BLM movement has the moral authority to denounce what happened on the capital. In my opinion, the only ones who have the right to denounce this behavior are the ones who have been denouncing the violence all year. Hint, that isn't the Democratic politicians or their followers.
So they are "terrorists" now? Well Trump did say he wanted all those involved in criminal activity to have the book thrown at them. So hopefully they will be arrested and tried. Maybe for treason? If only the same standard was applied to all those involved with the assault of the federal courthouse in Portland. But I guess justice for some is better than justice for none.At least these attempts to drag the thread off topic aren't burdened by trying to rationalize how a terrorist literally attacking a room holding the second in command of the United States government was shot "for no real reason".
Pretty sure that would be the police officer beaten to death with a fire extinguisher.You went on and on about these victims but never mentioned the most controversial and most indefensible death.
I heard sometimes black people do u-turns in their car.just trying to get at the VPOTUS, nothing major
they could have been a black man trying to open their car door, something really serious
Enough with the Tu Quoque fallacies. If you want to know I spoke out against the violent riots that occurred at times. And yes, anytime that property is destroyed it is no longer a demonstration and is now a riot. I could see that the riots that often accompanied the demonstrations caused reactions that were the opposite of what the demonstrators wanted. The riots were self defeating. And those that participated in the demonstrations that became riots were responsible for them too. One cannot control a mob so if one allows a demonstration to become a mob the fault only lies on the demonstrators.Do you feel the same way about the deaths that occurred during the BLM/ANTIFA riots?
Moreso than a women shot dead at almost point blank range by a guard? And for no real reason? I don't think so. The George Floyd case that started widespread riots last summer and produced innumerable reactions that bemoaned the unforgiveable nature of that death did not involve police brutality to the degree that this incident did.Pretty sure that would be the police officer beaten to death with a fire extinguisher.
By a plainclothes Capitol police officer. And yes.Moreso than a women shot dead at almost point blank range by a guard?
Attempting to break into a secured area with an armed mob while officers told her to get back is definitely a reason. You have officers charged with protecting members of Congress faced with a group of people - some of whom they have reason to believe are armed - trying to break down barricades and not following orders to stop. Honestly, I'm surprised they didn't shoot earlier.And for no real reason?
Seriously? How can you say that with a straight face? An officer kneels on a man's neck for minutes until he dies, ignoring his cries for air, and you call that less brutal than an officer firing a single shot? You disgust me.The George Floyd case that started widespread riots last summer and produced innumerable reactions that bemoaned the unforgiveable nature of that death did not involve police brutality to the degree that this incident did.
Shot by a sworn police officer while she was crashing her way into the room.Moreso than a women shot dead at almost point blank range by a guard? And for no real reason? I don't think so. The George Floyd case that started widespread riots last summer and produced innumerable reactions that bemoaned the unforgiveable nature of that death did not involve police brutality to the degree that this incident did.
She's the Carlo Giuliani of the right. Hopefully her wasted life has the same chilling effect on the cause she was a part of.Oh I have no doubt that she'll be declared a saint and a martyr within the Trump faith.
She's the Carlo Giuliani of the right. Hopefully her wasted life has the same chilling effect on the cause she was a part of.
It's still up in the air if they will claim her as their own, her corpse has already been thrown under the bus on this very forum as a BLM/Antifa operative.And hopefully not so much of a Horst Wessel.