Who are some Heterodox Christians that you wish were Eastern Orthodox Christians ?

ArmyMatt · Oct 12, 2020

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith said:
It's amazing how with in the same jurisdiction or even a single parish you can find some of the most pious, kind, loving and true Orthodox Christians, yet with in that very same jurisdiction or parish also have some of the most worldly, fake and truly wicked people that you have ever met.

It's really bizarre.

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yep, the wheat and the tares are sown together

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith · Oct 12, 2020

I could be wrong, but I feel like the other jurisdictions don't have such an extreme from one side to the other like we do.

Or maybe they do but are just better at not showing it LOL.

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Xenophon · Oct 12, 2020

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith said:
some of the most worldly, fake and truly wicked people that you have ever met.

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I'm probably in that category, lol. Just me and the EP. And maybe also my own patriarch.

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith · Oct 12, 2020

Xenophon said:
I'm probably in that category, lol. Just me and the EP. And maybe also my own patriarch.

Is it hard to change jurisdictions ?

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Hermit76 · Oct 12, 2020

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith said:
Is it hard to change jurisdictions ?

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As a member? No

Justin-H.S. · Oct 12, 2020

Just remember: the jurisdiction you’re in now could be the ‘wrong’ but later be ‘right’ depending on the situation.

What’re you going to do, hop jurisdictions depending on where the winds take you?

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith · Oct 12, 2020

Justin-H.S. said:
What’re you going to do, hop jurisdictions depending on where the winds take you?

No, but the Antiochian parish that I visited didn't seem to have the obvious problems and stuff that I've encountered at the Greek parish.

I think that they are on the old calendar as well.

I'm just glad that I'm actually Orthodox to be honest.

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Justin-H.S. · Oct 13, 2020

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith said:
No, but the Antiochian parish that I visited didn't seem to have the obvious problems and stuff that I've encountered at the Greek parish.

I think that they are on the old calendar as well.

I'm just glad that I'm actually Orthodox to be honest.

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That's good. Until America has autocephaly I don't think I'll be changing jurisdictions because I don't want to be hopping to and fro depending on what the hierarchs are doing. (I'm in the "dreaded" GOA, myself.) Here's the interesting thing, though: I found out this past Sunday that the most venerable OCA has been communing with multiple spoons, while the GOA has been insistent on communing with a single spoon.

Take that how you will.

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith · Oct 13, 2020

Justin-H.S. said:
(I'm in the "dreaded" GOA, myself.)

So, this one ?

Church of the Genuine Orthodox Christians of America | Ἐκκλησία Γνησίων Ὀρθοδόξων Χριστιανῶν Ἀμερικῆς

Or this one ?

Genuine Orthodox Church of America

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Hermit76 · Oct 13, 2020

Justin-H.S. said:
That's good. Until America has autocephaly I don't think I'll be changing jurisdictions because I don't want to be hopping to and fro depending on what the hierarchs are doing. (I'm in the "dreaded" GOA, myself.) Here's the interesting thing, though: I found out this past Sunday that the most venerable OCA has been communing with multiple spoons, while the GOA has been insistent on communing with a single spoon.

Take that how you will.

There's no competition to be won between jurisdictions. We are all Eastern Orthodox. We can be concerned about issues without feeling animosity.

Justin-H.S. · Oct 13, 2020

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith said:
So, this one ?

Church of the Genuine Orthodox Christians of America | Ἐκκλησία Γνησίων Ὀρθοδόξων Χριστιανῶν Ἀμερικῆς

Or this one ?

Genuine Orthodox Church of America

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This one: Home - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith · Oct 13, 2020

Justin-H.S. said:
This one: Home - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America

Oh, me too

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AMM · Oct 13, 2020

Justin-H.S. said:
That's good. Until America has autocephaly I don't think I'll be changing jurisdictions because I don't want to be hopping to and fro depending on what the hierarchs are doing. (I'm in the "dreaded" GOA, myself.) Here's the interesting thing, though: I found out this past Sunday that the most venerable OCA has been communing with multiple spoons, while the GOA has been insistent on communing with a single spoon.

Take that how you will.

Yep, although not all OCA parishes. I’ve been to two OCA parishes in the past couple months; one used disposable wooden spoons, the other one followed the traditional practice

AMM · Oct 13, 2020

ArmyMatt said:
yep, the wheat and the tares are sown together

And even going one step further, both positions are found within each person. The line between good and evil cuts through the human heart

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith · Oct 13, 2020

I'm just glad that we have Mt Athos and The Monks, the monasteries established by Elder Ephraim,
Saint Paisios Etc.

Thank God.

Through the prayers of our holy Fathers, Lord Jesus Christ, our God, have mercy on us and save us. Amen.

Please pray to God for Our Jurisdiction and the rest of The Church beloved Elder Ephraim (Memory Eternal) and Holy Saint Paisios Amen.

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Justin-H.S. · Oct 13, 2020

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith said:
I'm just glad that we have Mt Athos and The Monks, the monasteries established by Elder Ephraim,
Saint Paisios Etc.

Thank God.

Through the prayers of our holy Fathers, Lord Jesus Christ, our God, have mercy on us and save us. Amen.

Please pray to God for Our Jurisdiction and the rest of The Church beloved Elder Ephraim (Memory Eternal) and Holy Saint Paisios Amen.

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I think St. Ephraim is a saint. Here's a video of a guy recounting his encounter with the saint, and how just being in his presence changed his whole demeanor.

ArmyMatt · Oct 13, 2020

AMM said:
And even going one step further, both positions are found within each person. The line between good and evil cuts through the human heart

yep

WanderedHome · Oct 22, 2020

Justin-H.S. said:
That's good. Until America has autocephaly I don't think I'll be changing jurisdictions because I don't want to be hopping to and fro depending on what the hierarchs are doing. (I'm in the "dreaded" GOA, myself.) Here's the interesting thing, though: I found out this past Sunday that the most venerable OCA has been communing with multiple spoons, while the GOA has been insistent on communing with a single spoon.

Take that how you will.

I am in the OCA. I haven't seen multiple spoons. I have seen a parish sanitize the spoon between family groups and the one I'm at now serves it according to tradition.

Justin-H.S. · Oct 22, 2020

WanderedHome said:
I am in the OCA. I haven't seen multiple spoons. I have seen a parish sanitize the spoon between family groups and the one I'm at now serves it according to tradition.

Yeah, it’s weird because I’ve seen some GOA parishes do multi spoons while mine is single spoon. Sometimes both within the same metropolis.

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