The Social Conservatives Safe House (4)

lifepsyop · Jun 21, 2019

VCR-2000 said:
On the other hand, I hear a lot of warning that we are heading for very dark times. I read before that there is an ultimate agenda to fight and kill all conservatives or anybody else that doesn't agree with what the left has lately. They have had subtleness and cunningness on their side. Why doesn't our side? Right, because Christianity only enforces us to be disciplined and play by the rules...

Exactly. The enemy will nod and wink and lie to your face with a smile, all while secretly plotting your destruction. And the more confident (or desperate?) they become, the more the mask slips off.

We see how concepts like 'freedom of speech' were nothing but ruses for the enemy to gain more of a foothold over society. Now that they're in power, they begin to show their real faces.

To anyone following current political trends, violence against conservatives/right-wingers is now considered morally justifiable. "It's okay to punch a Nazi, and we decide who is a Nazi."

Mainstream Media networks will invoke freedom of speech for any 'progressive' (i.e. anti-Christian) cause, yet will consistently ignore censorship and political violence against Right-wingers. During the 2016 campaigns, Trump supporters were routinely assaulted, egged, spat upon, punched, bloodied, etc. They were attacked simply trying to enter or leave a Trump rally. This violence was all documented on video, shared across social media, yet practically all mainstream media networks (as well as mainstream "journalists" on social media) remained totally silent, pretending it didn't even happen.... However the small handful of times a protestor was pushed around at a Trump rally (usually after instigating violence in the first place) it was always a national headline. The media simply stopped trying to hide their extreme bias.

The veil is quickly dropping, and the direction we're heading in is becoming more clear. Things that were supposedly enshrined in law (like the first-amendment) are increasingly becoming illusory... the enemy is done pretending to play by the rules... and I think anyone who believes that laws are going to protect them in the future is in for a rude awakening.

All across social media you can see the enemy emboldened. On a mass level they are ready to at least give their support to the violence against ideological/political dissidents... if not participate in the violence themselves.

The justification, of course, is going to be that they're rooting out "hate" and "intolerance".... those pesky individuals that won't get on board with the plan.

VCR-2000 · Jun 21, 2019

lifepsyop said:
Exactly. The enemy will nod and wink and lie to your face with a smile, all while secretly plotting your destruction. And the more confident (or desperate?) they become, the more the mask slips off.

We see how concepts like 'freedom of speech' were nothing but ruses for the enemy to gain more of a foothold over society. Now that they're in power, they begin to show their real faces.

To anyone following current political trends, violence against conservatives/right-wingers is now considered morally justifiable. "It's okay to punch a Nazi, and we decide who is a Nazi."

Mainstream Media networks will invoke freedom of speech for any 'progressive' (i.e. anti-Christian) cause, yet will consistently ignore censorship and political violence against Right-wingers. During the 2016 campaigns, Trump supporters were routinely assaulted, egged, spat upon, punched, bloodied, etc. They were attacked simply trying to enter or leave a Trump rally. This violence was all documented on video, shared across social media, yet practically all mainstream media networks (as well as mainstream "journalists" on social media) remained totally silent, pretending it didn't even happen.... However the small handful of times a protestor was pushed around at a Trump rally (usually after instigating violence in the first place) it was always a national headline. The media simply stopped trying to hide their extreme bias.

The veil is quickly dropping, and the direction we're heading in is becoming more clear. Things that were supposedly enshrined in law (like the first-amendment) are increasingly becoming illusory... the enemy is done pretending to play by the rules... and I think anyone who believes that laws are going to protect them in the future is in for a rude awakening.

All across social media you can see the enemy emboldened. On a mass level they are ready to at least give their support to the violence against ideological/political dissidents... if not participate in the violence themselves.

The justification, of course, is going to be that they're rooting out "hate" and "intolerance".... those pesky individuals that won't get on board with the plan.

The enemy is done playing around. They're ready to start getting rid of the troublemakers standing in the way of their grand Utopia. It IS coming. 2020 will see a major acceleration, regardless of the election outcome. And I think within only several years we'll be looking back at this time as being relatively civil in comparison.

I wish one day it will just turn and we will become embolden and make the enemy weak. I have that strong feeling.

I don't like the system that the enemy has already won here and there is no reversing that.

GoldenBoy89 · Jun 22, 2019

VCR-2000 · Jun 22, 2019

GoldenBoy89 said:
Who exactly are you seeing as "the enemy" in all these talks?

Me? I was replying. I assumed it was referring to "satan".

Newtheran · Jun 22, 2019

GoldenBoy89 said:
Who exactly are you seeing as "the enemy" in all these talks?

If you need to ask the question, you wouldn't understand the answer.

GoldenBoy89 · Jun 22, 2019

GoldenBoy89 · Jun 22, 2019

Newtheran · Jun 22, 2019

GoldenBoy89 said:
We both speak the same language.

Trust me, we don't. Furthermore, this is the social conservative safe house, not the humanist democrat safe house.

GoldenBoy89 · Jun 22, 2019

lifepsyop · Jun 22, 2019

GoldenBoy89 said:
Who exactly are you seeing as "the enemy" in all these talks?

Ephesians 6:12

GoldenBoy89 · Jun 22, 2019

VCR-2000 · Jun 22, 2019

GoldenBoy89 said:
Either of you. I get tired of hearing this rhetoric because it is often implied that the "enemy" are those who disagree with or take a stand against your views. If that's not what you meant, then I sincerely apologize for my misjudgment. I just think it doesn't help the situation to cast the political opposition as an enemy. It's harsh language that only furthers the division in our country.

It's not so much the political opposition per-se.

VCR-2000 · Jul 2, 2019

I honestly ask that if God knows there will be a mass catastrophe of society collapse where I have a very narrow probability of survival anyway, and that it's going to be allowed to happen, I want to be taken away from this life before I see the actual start of it (and take away my other family members too, as harsh as I sound). I understand some people don't like to hear that because it sounds sad. I just have an adamant feeling.

archarios · Jul 14, 2019

Speedwell · Jul 14, 2019

archarios said:
Is this "American Politics" forum set up just for liberals and atheists to call conservatives racists and nazis? And if so, is there a way to ignore a forum the way one can ignore individual troublemakers?

I know I didn't do much research before signing up, but I thought CF would be a place on the internet to discuss Christianity and some other things and avoid having non-believers, anarchists, mockers, liars, homosexual sympathizers, haters of God, twisters of scripture, and inverters of morality call us nazis every day.

Ignore works kinda ok but we still get a pseudo-twitter-feed of pro-liberal, anti-conservative headlines in the "New Threads" sidebar on every page.

CF offers politics and current events fora restricted to Christian participation.

VCR-2000 · Aug 6, 2020

Lifepsyop said:
Exactly. The enemy will nod and wink and lie to your face with a smile, all while secretly plotting your destruction. And the more confident (or desperate?) they become, the more the mask slips off.

We see how concepts like 'freedom of speech' were nothing but ruses for the enemy to gain more of a foothold over society. Now that they're in power, they begin to show their real faces.

To anyone following current political trends, violence against conservatives/right-wingers is now considered morally justifiable. "It's okay to punch a Nazi, and we decide who is a Nazi."

Mainstream Media networks will invoke freedom of speech for any 'progressive' (i.e. anti-Christian) cause, yet will consistently ignore censorship and political violence against Right-wingers. During the 2016 campaigns, Trump supporters were routinely assaulted, egged, spat upon, punched, bloodied, etc. They were attacked simply trying to enter or leave a Trump rally. This violence was all documented on video, shared across social media, yet practically all mainstream media networks (as well as mainstream "journalists" on social media) remained totally silent, pretending it didn't even happen.... However the small handful of times a protestor was pushed around at a Trump rally (usually after instigating violence in the first place) it was always a national headline. The media simply stopped trying to hide their extreme bias.

The veil is quickly dropping, and the direction we're heading in is becoming more clear. Things that were supposedly enshrined in law (like the first-amendment) are increasingly becoming illusory... the enemy is done pretending to play by the rules... and I think anyone who believes that laws are going to protect them in the future is in for a rude awakening.

All across social media you can see the enemy emboldened. On a mass level they are ready to at least give their support to the violence against ideological/political dissidents... if not participate in the violence themselves.

The justification, of course, is going to be that they're rooting out "hate" and "intolerance".... those pesky individuals that won't get on board with the plan.

How is it possible to not want to curse my enemy here? I know what it says that Jesus tells us to love and forgive our enemies, but in the case of these particular people it is virtually impossible. I'm going to say it like it is, we don't have to forgive or speak kindly of our enemy here because they do not deserve it. It goes against common sense. If I had a partner or friend who continually slapped me in the face, I won't allow myself to become a "nice" doormat.

VCR-2000 · Aug 21, 2020

VCR-2000 said:
How is it possible to not want to curse my enemy here? I know what it says that Jesus tells us to love and forgive our enemies, but in the case of these particular people it is virtually impossible. I'm going to say it like it is, we don't have to forgive or speak kindly of our enemy here because they do not deserve it. It goes against common sense. If I had a partner or friend who continually slapped me in the face, I won't allow myself to become a "nice" doormat.

I mean I suppose I can forgive and love them in the long run, but sometimes action needs to be taken to drive evil away. I don't think Jesus thought those two were necessarily irreconcilable with the other.

Justin-H.S. · Sep 21, 2020

SalemsConcordance · Oct 20, 2020

Newtheran said:
First, it is the responsibility of all Christians to care for widows, orphans and the disabled. HOWEVER. The charge that Jesus gave us is for us to do that as individuals and corporately as a church body for His glory. He in no way imagined a scenario where Caesar would redistribute assets at spear point for Caesars glory and call such a system Christian.

St John Chrysostom spoke on this in 4th century, emphasis mine:
“Should we look to kings and princes to put right the inequalities between rich and poor? Should we require soldiers to come and seize the rich person’s gold and distribute it among his destitute neighbors? Should we beg the emperor to impose a tax on the rich so great that it reduces them to the level of the poor and then to share the proceeds of that tax among everyone? Equality imposed by force would achieve nothing, and do much harm. Those who combined both cruel hearts and sharp minds would soon find ways of making themselves rich again. Worse still, the rich whose gold was taken away would feel bitter and resentful; while the poor who received the gold form the hands of soldiers would feel no gratitude, because no generosity would have prompted the gift. Far from bringing moral benefit to society, it would actually do moral harm. Material justice cannot be accomplished by compulsion, a change of heart will not follow.
The only way to achieve true justice is to change people’s hearts first – and then they will joyfully share their wealth.”
On Living Simply

As with many things we are taught to do from God, this has to be balanced:

If you cannot remember everything, instead of everything, I beg you, remember this without fail, that not to share our own wealth with the poor is theft from the poor and deprivation of their means of life; we do not possess our own wealth but theirs.
If we have this attitude, we will certainly offer our money; and by nourishing Christ in poverty here and laying up great profit hereafter, we will be able to attain the good things which are to come, by the grace and kindness of our Lord Jesus Christ, with Whom (be glory, honor, and might,) to the Father, together with the Holy Spirit, now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen (On Wealth and Poverty).

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