Following Jesus means following the King

One of the things about coming to know the King of kings is the Kingdom of God - angels that serve Him. I don't see how it is possible to start spending a lot of time with the Lord and not know about the angels in His Kingdom. It surprises me how many times I bring this topic up with other Christians and they don't know about His angels. Some do but so many don't. And even the some that do know don't really like to have a conversation about it.

We can talk about a minister at church and the message they brought, but try talking about an angel, of which we see written, "are they not all ministering spirits sent by the Lord to those who will inherit salvation' and it often gets strange looks from other Christians. So many times I am told that they had never heard from an angel. Anyway, I have them minister to me and my Lord often tells me He is sending them and then I start hearing from them.

Dan 9:21 while I was still speaking in prayer, then the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision previously, came to me... He gave me instruction and talked with me..

It's kind of like that. Maybe you pick them up in a vision or maybe you just hear them talking to you. Of course it is wise to test the spirit (1 Jn 4:1-3) but it is not unusual. And sometime He sends a number of them. [Rev 5:11 Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne...]

So we have a King and access to the throne and we don't know about angels? Sometimes that seems to be the case when I talk to other Christians. It's like they say they can get to the presence of God but can't imagine knowing angels.

Luke 1:12 Zacharias was troubled when he saw the angel...

That is a strange story; the Zacharias is picked to go into the Holy Place and he is trouble when he see an angel???? It's often like that when I talk to other Christians about angels. They say they know the King but seem to have no concept of knowing those around Him?

Ahermit said:

All those who think they are Christians may not be Christians, or will inherit salvation.
Now don't get carried away with this. Remember, the last will be first, so remain humble.

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Thanks for the advice

Now - there is a reason I wrote this thread! The reason was that Jesus came preaching a Kingdom!!

So why did Jesus take on flesh?

Some will say that He came to be the sacrificial lamb.

But don't we understand,? He became that so you might have the ability to get into the Kingdom!!

So Him becoming the sacrificial lamb was part of Him preaching the Kingdom of God!!!

So what is the "Good News"?

Is it that Jesus came and died for us - or is it that the Kingdom of God is now available to us???

Considering that piece of "Good News" shouldn't we get excited about that???

Shouldn't we be seeking the Kingdom of God???

Shouldn't we be telling others about it, if we have found it???

Shouldn't I be doing what I can to encourage people to seek our King who is the why into the Kingdom of God??

Ahermit said:

All those who think they are Christians may not be Christians, or will inherit salvation.
Now don't get carried away with this. Remember, the last will be first, so remain humble.

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It is sadly true that not all that think they will inherit salvations will. It is those who believe in Him (The King of kings) who will be saved! And it is not by our good works, but He stands at the door and knocks and if anyone hears His voice and opens the door!

My friends, we are called to preach the Word (Jesus Christ)

So why does some say "don't get carried away"?

This is exciting "Good News"! This is important "Good News"! THERE IS A KING WHO HAS A KINGDOM AND THAT KING HAD MADE IT POSSIBLE TO ENTER IN!!!!! HOW AWESOME IS THAT GOOD NEWS???

Am I getting carried away? I hope so! I hope that I am getting really carried away and that has nothing to do with being humble but being excited!!

Did I say anything to give you the impression that I was special? Did I give you that impression when I testified to there being a Kingdom? Did I write this thread to exult myself or to encourage anyone who reads it to seek the Kingdom of God?

My friends - there is a King who is over the Kingdom of God! The Father put Him in that position. And if you are not really excited about it I personally want to question you as to how familiar you are with that Kingdom? Because I find it extremely exciting that me, an average speck of dust who according to scientist is on a speck of dust that spins and circles a speck of dust that is a speak of dust in a galaxy that is a speak of dust in a universe, and still the King through whom all that was made takes time to just stand there waiting for me (that speck on a speck around a speak of a speak around a speak which is a speck) to listen to Him and let me enter into His Kingdom and get to know Him and the angels that serve Him. And it is a Kingdom of power!

Frankly, I can not understand how a person can not get excited and "carried away" with that "Good News"??

Let me just carried away for a second please - I hear from the King of kings and maker of all things everyday! Usually about a dozen times a day - which is actually a sad statement because I should even listen for Him more - and more days that not I also hear from angels who serve Him! Do you not also pray "Thy Kingdom Come" on most days too?

So I know the King (Jesus Christ) and of course I also know some of those angelic beings that serve Him - and I don't think it is just for me - that is why I wrote this - because from what I hear from all those I know in the Kingdom of God, including the King, it is for anyone who chooses to believe and open the door to the King of kings, Jesus Christ!!

And I believe that if indeed anyone has truly come to know Him and as the King of kings they too will be extremely excited!!! How can you not be?

Yeah - I still have trials! I still get upset sometimes, because I am an average person! I even, I am sorry to say, get mad at my Lord and King because of the darkness in this world. They want to keep you from knowing the King and His kingdom and will stop at nothing. The King of kings can and will do away with that some day, but He has His reasons, whether I like it or not.

So can I find just one other person on this "Christian Forum" who also seeks the Kingdom of God and who gets excited, even carried away with that excitement?

I have been kissed by a cloud, been taken out of my body, seen hundreds of people healed by the King when I asked, been saved from a hard item throw out of a car at my window, and so incredibly much more! Is that boasting? If it is, I am not boasting in myself, because I didn't do any of that unless you count seeking the King and His Kingdom something to boast about. But you can to that too!

Ahermit said:

referred to getting resentment about me saying 'All those who think they are Christians may not be Christians, or will inherit salvation.'

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Wasn't there something written about being neither hot or cold??

I get zealous for the Lord, because He tells me incredible things, even "Karl, I love you"

The first time I heard that from Him it instantly my eyes filled with tears. It was incredible to me that God would love me personally. Yet I have heard so much more than that. He asked me to work in a Christian healing ministry for five years and I can tell you the number of times He told me things that lead to people getting healed in miraculous ways.

So how does someone not wind up hot for Him?

Well sometimes He didn't heal someone that I thought He should. So while I saw the Spirit fall with power when we were praying for someone that was to have heart surgery the next morning and they sent her home the next day because the pre-operation examination showed she we healed; I have also seen a lady close to dying from cancer not get healed. So I sometimes get a bit angry. I get hot and cold, but how can you personally know Him and be luke warm?

So I we someone write :

Tone said:

Let's take the land!

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And that person make some since to me. That is like Caleb. Joshua said, "If God is with us..." Which is a more accurate position. Still Caleb was at least zealous for the Lord. As for the others who said, there are giants in the land so they don't think to take the land with God were the problem, weren't they?

My friends - if the King who has a Kingdom of power is with us who can be against us. So I preach the Kingdom of God, and Jesus Christ is King. And if you can't excited about that, do you really know Him? Haven't you seen Him do incredible things, and often, around you??

Yeah, there are times when you get a bit upset but the storm is raging around you and it seems He is sleeping, but there are also those times He gets up and commands the storm to stop and it just takes your breath away. Or did you really think after He instantly commanded the storm to stop the disciples yawned and instantly went to sleep?

Give me the Caleb that says "Lets take the Land" over the one that says, 'Now don't get carried away with this." That healing ministry I was in is was all about taking the land - healing the sick. And we saw the God do great things in the name of Jesus Christ. And I still see Him do great things even though He has me in another ministry now. I get hot and cold, but I have a hard time being luke warm when it comes to Him.

Ahermit said:

Sorry you still misunderstand me. I was referring to not get carried away with falsehoods.
If anything, you are getting carried away with your own message and not listening to what others are saying. Truth is rest. One can remain alert and active in serenity.

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Jesus said He was the "Truth". And yes, listening to Him bring rest in the sense that His words are life. But listening to Him also brings more. It brings a zeal for Him. It also results in finding the Kingdom of God, because how can anyone find the King who sits in the Kingdom of God at the right hand of God and not find the Kingdom of God?

So it is that I know the King of kings and thus those that serve the King. Not all of them because there is some many. But do we know people, even Christians, and not know the angels that serve Him?

Does saying that make you conclude that I have gotten "carried away"?

How do you not know about being zealous for Him (Hot)?

Knowing Him has not made me a monk! I don't sit around going "Hummmmmmmm" all day long. It does often mean I go on walks with Him, and we talk. This morning He was telling me how people kill Him by saying "I am done with Him" in their hearts. Adam and Eve did that when they decided not to listen to Him and then tried to hide from Him. But though it killed them that didn't mean He was done with them.

So I have things He tells me everyday! I often have things the ministering angels He sends to me say to me. Yet if I tell people about this so they too might search for Him (and it is written that all who seek find) I so often come across people saying 'don't get carried away' in one form or another.

When sent to spy out the land, Caleb said something like "Let's take the land!" like Tone wrote. Joshua said something like "If God is with us", and He is with us isn't He.
Still most said something like 'don't get carried away'. So are we going around the mountain again?

Now, when you first wrote, I thanked you and considered what you said. So who changed my opinion of your first post?

The Lord like Caleb and Joshua. They had a zeal for God and what He wanted to do!

We have a promised land and the Kingdom of God is in our midst. So did we pray today, 'Thy Kingdom Come' and not have encounters with the King and His kingdom? So we seek first the Kingdom of God and listen? And tell me, if you can, How can anyone hear from the King of kings, Lord of lords, the One through whom all things were made and not be zealous for Him??? His disciples left everything and followed Him. It sounds like they instantly got 'carried away' with a zeal for Him.

Caleb and Joshua make sense to me. The disciples who left everything to follow Him make sense to me. The prophets of old who wound up doing many things for Him make sense to me. The person going 'don't get carried away' doesn't.

Is 60:1 Arise, shine; for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord has risen upon you.

Does it sound like Isaiah got a little carried away? Does it sound like He is saying rest or arise?

I often (not all the time) get zealous for the Lord. I would think that all Christians would, simply because the incredible things He says and does, now, in your life. Thus, I don't understand when someone says "Now don't get carried away with this." Also there is the question of what is humility and what is false humility?

Jesus was humble. He said and did only what the Father told Him. As a result He got so carried away that He was crucified for our sakes. Jesus was out there telling people about the Kingdom of God. He was saying things like 'you will see that angels ascending and descending on Him.' ON HIM? that certainly doesn't sound like a humble person, but He was. There was a purpose in what God was doing, and the purpose was to tell people that the Kingdom of God is real and in their midst.

The point is that humility is not what you think it is. A humble person is one that considers that He is not God so that they need to listen to Him and do what He says. That person will be preaching the King (Jesus Christ) and thus His Kingdom of God which is in our midst. Because God is great, this will show up in a zeal for Him, The King.

Psa 69:9 For zeal for Your house has consumed me,
And the reproaches of those who reproach You have fallen on me.

Psa 119:139 My zeal has consumed me,
Because my adversaries have forgotten Your words.

Of course not all zeal is right, but if a person is wanting others to seek His words and His Kingdom, what of that? If I tell someone the great things I have seen the Lord do in my life, do you now think I am not humble. Have you not testified about the great things God has done in your life? Wasn't God awesome enough that you have to tell others about Him?

People say WWJD and read how a zeal for God, His words, and His house consumed Jesus Christ but then say 'don't get carried way', and 'be humble'. What is the problem? Are they not leaning on their own understanding?

I don't know, but I can't understand how anyone that truly knows the Lord of lords and King of kings has with a little time not come to be zealous for Him? For me, I will take the Caleb that is saying 'We should by all means go up and take possession of it, for surely we will over come' any day over the one saying 'don't get carried away'. That doesn't mean wisdom is needed, but like Joshua said, 'If the Lord is pleased with us, then He will bring us into this land and give it to us' But isn't He will you? He said he would never leave you, didn't He? You listen to what He says everyday called Today, don't you? And He has shown up in great ways, hasn't He?

As for me, I can not understand the person saying they know the Lord yet do not have a zeal for God. so I write things like "Following Jesus means following the King".

Ok - I have gone on too long. There will indeed be those who think they are Christians but are not and will not inherit salvation - like 'Ahermit' wrote. Of course, Jesus wasn't a hermit, and Jesus did have a zeal for God and the things of God.