2. Precisely what are you believing in and trusting on for salvation from God's wrath (Ro 5:9)?
1. "Clare 73: What is his will which saves you from condemnation?"
Such good questions, lets see if the two debating here want good answers or no.
Lets be precise then, and the scripture is the only place precision can be. ( we would hope it might be acceptable)
1. The condemnation is that light is come into the world, which is Gods will to save, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil, every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, to reprove their works of darkness, but those that do truth ( not just hearers only/deceiving their own selves) come to the light, that their deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
2. Saved from wrath through Jesus Christ, by HIs blood, reconciled to God by the death of HIs Son, ( accepted in the beloved) much more being reconciled we shall be saved by HIs life.
What then is being saved by His life ?
First to let no man deceive you with VAIN WORDS, to know because of walking in darkness the wrath of God comes upon the children of disobedience, and to not partake with them.
We were enemies when in darkness, now we are light in the Lord, to walk as children of light, having the fruit of the Spirit in all goodness and righteousness and truth, proving what is ACCEPTABLE UNTO THE LORD, ( believing we are accepted by Jesus Christ in the beloved) to have no fellowship with the unfruitful workers of darkness, but to reprove them, all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever does make manifest is light.
To see then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, redeeming the time, because the days are evil, wherefore be not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Of His own will begat He us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
Hear then how we escape from wrath through Him, by letting EVERY MAN swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath, For the wrath of man works not the righteousness of God.
Laying apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and RECEIVING WITH MEEKNESS THE ENGRAFTED WORD, which is ABLE TO SAVE YOUR SOULS.
Be doers of the word, and not hearers only, DECEIVING YOUR OWN SELVES.
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
James 1;18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.