Cop saves toddler from almost being hit by truck.

NothingIsImpossible · Jun 3, 2019

Since there is so much negativity with painting cops (especially white ones) as bad guys, though I'd paint the other light where most of the time they are good guys. New footage of a cop saving a toddler (an african american one) from being hit by a truck.

Go Braves · Jun 3, 2019

PTL the baby is OK!

mala · Jun 3, 2019

NothingIsImpossible said:
Since there is so much negativity with painting cops (especially white ones) as bad guys, though I'd paint the other light where most of the time they are good guys. New footage of a cop saving a toddler (an african american one) from being hit by a truck.

that's nice but it doesn't mean anything in regards to actual bad cops getting way with murdering people.
one good act by one single person doesn't undo all the bad acts by all the other people.
you're just being part of the problem.

JCFantasy23 · Jun 3, 2019

Most cops are good people and do a lot of things that don't make the news. This story was an example, glad the cop was there.

SummerMadness · Jun 3, 2019

JCFantasy23 said:
Most cops are good people and do a lot of things that don't make the news. This story was an example, glad the cop was there.

They shouldn't make the news, they're doing what they're supposed to do, which is a good thing. Most priests don't commit sexual assault, but those that do are of great concern. But as often with most stories about police misconduct, the bigger problem is the covering up of those crimes. We already know most police officers are "good people" (quotes to use your language, not to imply they are not good people), but we also know that most officers do nothing when they see another officer commit a crime. Whether that is from tacit approval or fear of reprisals (we've seen officers lives threatened for being "rats"), it is a cause of great concern.

Posting stories like this is not a problem; posting stories like this in an effort to draw attention from police misconduct is a problem.

JCFantasy23 · Jun 3, 2019

SummerMadness said:
They shouldn't make the news, they're doing what they're supposed to do, which is a good thing. Most priests don't commit sexual assault, but those that do are of great concern. But as often with most stories about police misconduct, the bigger problem is the covering up of those crimes. We already know most police officers are "good people" (quotes to use your language, not to imply they are not good people), but we also know that most officers do nothing when they see another officer commit a crime. Whether that is from tacit approval or fear of reprisals (we've seen officers lives threatened for being "rats"), it is a cause of great concern.

I agree with everything you said here.

I don't think that it's only posted to draw attention from the bad press, though.

NothingIsImpossible · Jun 3, 2019

My problem is if people only hear "bad cop" from the media, then people start to think all cops must be bad. Or that a majority of cops are bad. Hence they should equal it out by posting stories of cops being good.

A good example of what happens when people post only "Bad stories" is what happened to white people. Now every time there is story of a racist white person, people will respond to it with "Typical white people!" or something like that. So many think white americas are racist despite the fact that is not obviously true. While I can tell a few personal stories, I will stick to two.

The first one is when I was at a store about 2 months ago. I was waiting in the car while someone was inside. I was listening to some music and as most people do, you sort of just look around while waiting. People walked by with no issue. I tried not to make eye contact of course. Well a young black man walked by and our eyes met. He yelled a racial slur at me for staring at him. Then I looked away. He came to my window (which was up) and said I am not his "slave" to be watching. He ranted and walked away.

Another time at Wal-Mart (yes, sadly I have gone there) when I was walking out after a purchase, the lady at the door stopped a man behind me, who was black, he screamed at her about they stopped him because he was black. And that the "old white racist lady" picked him and yet let "the white dude" go by. I turned out and said its all random and sometimes I get stopped to. They usually check out people with big carts of stuff to make sure nothing is missing from the receipt. He went on screaming about white vs black.

So my point being is when the media portrays things, it makes it seem much worse then it is. Its what fuels the media. Scaring people and filling their heads with fear. Now obviously racism exists of course. Bad cops exist. Bad exists. No disputing that. But I just would like to see a more realistic media that also talks about the good things people do so the world stops thinking everyone and everything is bad. Look at how panicked they made people about Y2K.

I should note I live near the Great Lakes and lived in this city my whole life. Mostly white cops. Never had an issue with them targeting anyone or abusing their power. They are always at events to help the community. Sometimes you see them playing with the kids/teens at the park. Everyone respects them. This is the majority of cops in America. But the news makes it sound like you need to watch your back when a cop is near by.

SummerMadness · Jun 3, 2019

NothingIsImpossible said:
My problem is if people only hear "bad cop" from the media, then people start to think all cops must be bad. Or that a majority of cops are bad. Hence they should equal it out by posting stories of cops being good.

I don't know how anyone can argue that when the message that has been constantly communicated is that there is a need for reform, particularly reform that roots out bad police officers. It is difficult to do that when people ignore misconduct and more importantly the cover up of misconduct.

SummerMadness · Jun 3, 2019

NothingIsImpossible said:
I should note I live near the Great Lakes and lived in this city my whole life. Mostly white cops. Never had an issue with them targeting anyone or abusing their power. They are always at events to help the community. Sometimes you see them playing with the kids/teens at the park. Everyone respects them. This is the majority of cops in America. But the news makes it sound like you need to watch your back when a cop is near by.

You had a wonderful experience, but when we look across the country, there are many (including police officers) who have not had a good experience.

We also know that most police officers (84%) have witnessed colleagues use excessive force on civilians, and most admit (61%) they don't report even serious criminal violations.

Aryeh Jay · Jun 3, 2019

We should fire and incarcerate all police and ensure the armed street thugs keep us safe form ourselves. Then we can all be happy in the inner city utopia.

let the drug dealers "police" the other drug dealers and ensure prices are all fair and quality control is kept at an accepted standard.
let the murders "police" the other murders and ensure that only the people that have it coming to them get it.
let the rapists "police" the other rapists...

dgiharris · Jun 4, 2019

NothingIsImpossible said:
Since there is so much negativity with painting cops (especially white ones) as bad guys, though I'd paint the other light where most of the time they are good guys. New footage of a cop saving a toddler (an african american one) from being hit by a truck.

If you want to actually post something that helps paint cops in a better light, if you want to post something that could help the narrative...
Then post a cop policing another cop who is obviously in the wrong. Post a cop protecting a citizen from a bad cop. Post a cop standing up for the Constitutional rights of the citizenry against cops who feel their egos trump the Constitution.

To me, that would be worth a million times more than a cop doing what any normal human being would do.

The problem isn't that there are too many bad cops. That is not the problem. Any human organization will have it's share of bad apples. No. The problem is when a bad apple is discovered in a Police Organization, the boys in blue do EVERYTHING in their power to protect that bad apple and refuse to admit any wrong doing whatsoever. That is the problem. It happens too often to such a degree that for most of us, we have no confidence in the police as a whole.

You catch a cop on a bad day when he is in a bad mood, and your entire life can be ruined. And if/when that happens, the system that is "supposed" to protect you will bend over backwards to work against you and to protect that cop. And that cop, rather than admit he made a mistake, will simply double down on whatever lie and see you convicted and serving time in jail that admit he is wrong...

And the fact is, this could happen to ANYONE, regardless of race, age, gender... There are plenty of innocent white people sitting in jail or worse, laying six feet under all because they happened across one of the "bad apples"... And again, what makes it worse is that the "bad apple" is known to other cops. Everyone knows who the ego maniac bullies are... It's not a secret. But they all look the other way and it takes an act of God (and a well placed camera) to get rid of these bad apples. And that is why we the people don't have much confidence in police.

SummerMadness · Jun 5, 2019

I'm not posting this article to counter the idea that there are good police officers out there, most of them are good, but there is a major problem in policing, take this story for example:

NYPD's Internal Affairs investigating its own probe of woman blinded in fight with Bronx cop

The NYPD's Internal Affairs Bureau is investigating how its own investigators investigated a Bronx woman's claim that she was blinded when a cop repeatedly punched her in the face using a handcuff key, the Daily News has learned.

[...]

The News reported in March on the June 7, 2018, incident in which Pagan-Alomar was charged with roughing up a female officer after questioning the cop about the arrest of a friend.

The cop, Officer Theresa Lustica, wound up with a minor cut on her lip.

Pagan-Alomar, taken to the ground by Lustica, wound up with a bloodied left eye that doctors later told her was destroyed, and it was removed. She is awaiting a prosthetic eye.

A day after the incident, IAB visited Pagan-Alomar at Bronx Lebanon Hospital, where she signed a document saying she did not wish to file a complaint against Lustica. IAB later cleared Lustica, saying she justifiably arrested the 45-year-old mother of two after she shoved Lustica off-balance and assaulted her.

Video obtained by the News shows Pagan-Alomar apparently tapping the cop on her shoulder, not knocking her off balance, as she swore to in court papers. The injured woman said that while the signature on the IAB paperwork is hers, she has no remembrance of the visit because she was groggy from pain medication.

The woman asks why a friend was being arrested and then she was taken to the ground and loses an eye. We could say that cop is a bad apple, but there are other problems. The officer with her says nothing about the report. The report is filed, it is completely found to contradict the report. Even after that, the officer walks and is only going to be investigated because of an anonymous tip (if it's from a fellow police officer, that shows you how bad things are that you can't openly call out bad cops). You're looking at a case here where someone could make a legitimate argument of the woman being in the wrong, but not so much that she should lose an eye. The real question is will there be any actual consequences for this officer's conduct or will the city simply this woman money.

And when you look at a story where someone is completely innocent of anything, the police are still immune, with the most that happens is dropped charges, as if the misconduct is not the root of the problem:

Yes, I am happy to see police officers do good things, but there is a deeper problem when police officers do the wrong thing. There will always be a police officer that does the wrong thing, let's have institutions that holds them accountable so that citizens can feel safe when they see a police officer. The story above took place in NJ, and I know the state well, I avoid driving in certain areas, simply because I don't feel like getting pulled over. It shouldn't be that way and we need reforms to weed out the officers committing egregious acts and other forms of misconduct.

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