Donald Trump is a competent, honest and successful businessman: True/False

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Well we all know "polls" are super reliable.
I remember when the "polls" said Hillary would win by a landslide.
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Yes, they were very reliable for people who understand them. That is why they are and continue to be used.
 
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Yes, they were very reliable for people who understand them. That is why they are and continue to be used.
Apparently not to reliable when Hillary was polled to win by a LANDSLIDE.
Hmmm, maybe the people back then didn't " understand " them".
 
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Apparently not to reliable when Hillary was polled to win by a LANDSLIDE.
Hmmm, maybe the people back then didn't " understand " them".

Maybe you don't understand how they work, hence your confusion?
 
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Apparently not to reliable when Hillary was polled to win by a LANDSLIDE.
Hmmm, maybe the people back then didn't " understand " them".
The polls said that a Hillary victory was likely however they were not calling for a wide margin of victory.
 
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No confusion here.
You seem confused however.
Polling measures public opinion, not electoral college votes. Going by the results of the election, more people voted for Hillary than they did for Trump, just like the polls predicted but due to the undemocratic way we elect our presidents, the less popular candidate won.
 
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Polling measures public opinion, not electoral college votes. Going by the results of the election, more people voted for Hillary than they did for Trump, just like the polls predicted but due to the undemocratic way we elect our presidents, the less popular candidate won.
whoa whoa whoa. Back up a second here. Do I understand you to say that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote just like the polls said she would?
That's so weird.

It's kinda like....the polls got it .....right.
 
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Obama barely makes the top 43 list.
If I were to use the "reality and fact" based posts you've provided here as a rubric for what constitutes a good president, I'm not sure our lists would really look all that much the same.
 
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If I were to use the "reality and fact" based posts you've provided here as a rubric for what constitutes a good president, I'm not sure our lists would really look all that much the same.
Which proves “Poe’s Law”.
 
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Presidential rankings: Carter 26th, Clinton 15th, Obama 12th, LBJ 10th, JFK 8th, Truman 6th, FDR 3rd.

Eisenhower did really well, ranking just under FDR, but General Heel Spurs is no Eisenhower.

In all the rankings I've seen, Trump is dead last (I guess there wasn't a lower ranking they could give, because if they could have they surely would have.)

Presidents ranked from worst to best
 
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So when he received the funds it was NOT 400 million. It is just stated that way as part of a politically charged bias. it sounds better to the haters.

And if the value reported had been just the raw numbers, folks on your side would've crowed about how inconsequential it all was and how much of a genius the man is. However you want to measure it, the numbers in that article suggest that it's at least $100m in raw dollars on top of the successful business and extensive political contacts that his father had already built.
 
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