Why no dirty jokes?

Silverback · Mar 30, 2019

GodsGrace101 said:
LOL
So that's what the Navy does to ya, huh?

I'm not a guy, I'm a girl.
I just don't think sex jokes are funny.
What can I say?

We were on a cruise many years ago and met a nice couple there and spent a lot of time with them.
We went to a "show" one evening after dinner (on ship) and this comic started with the jokes...
We looked at each other..got up, and left...all 4 of us, without saying one word.

I just don't know what's funny about SEX!!!

Actually, military service in general is bad for dirty jokes, Police, Fireman, and EMS is similar.

I try not to tell so many these days, because it can lead to other sin in one's life, but, not being the go to guy for a laugh is hard for me.I

I will keep working at it, I can stop...I think.

GodsGrace101 · Mar 30, 2019

Silverback said:
Actually, military service in general is bad for dirty jokes, Police, Fireman, and EMS is similar.

I try not to tell so many these days, because it can lead to other sin in one's life, but, not being the go to guy for a laugh is hard for me.I

I will keep working at it, I can stop...I think.

Some are cute.
My friend sends me old people funny jokes.
Those make me laugh,,,I don't know if I could post one...but they're cute.

So...Military, police, firemen, EMS,,,,

Hey, you forgot truck drivers!

Midnight here, almost.
Good night silverback.

Silverback · Mar 30, 2019

GodsGrace101 said:
Some are cute.
My friend sends me old people funny jokes.
Those make me laugh,,,I don't know if I could post one...but they're cute.

So...Military, police, firemen, EMS,,,,

Hey, you forgot truck drivers!

Midnight here, almost.
Good night silverback.

Rest well, my new friend!

ace of hearts · Mar 30, 2019

GodsGrace101 said:
Some are cute.
My friend sends me old people funny jokes.
Those make me laugh,,,I don't know if I could post one...but they're cute.

So...Military, police, firemen, EMS,,,,

Hey, you forgot truck drivers!

Midnight here, almost.
Good night silverback.

No I was one. All truck drivers are virtuous because they have patience that would shame most.

JICS · Mar 31, 2019

Unofficial Reverand Alex said:
I'm asking this mostly as a devil's advocate question, because it's pretty well accepted across Christians that dirty jokes are unacceptable, but I rarely hear reasons as to why. Specifically, why are dirty jokes forbidden, but other offensive jokes allowed? I can joke about something blowing up & killing somebody, and that's fine, and I can joke about drug use, or other awful things, but not sex?

I'm interested to see where this goes.

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If you'd care to look yourself, you will find many references in the Bible informing us that evil thoughts are sin, not just evil deeds, and so-called jokes that evoke evil thoughts are something anyone who loves and respects God will not participate with. Just like immoral acts in jokes, joking about people's disabilities or mistakes or lack of intellect also evoke negative/immoral thoughts and should not be even considered by Christians. Not my opinion but what He tells us in His Word. He gave us great senses of humor, allowing us to laugh at ourselves and with others, never intended to be used for cruel or inappropriate things. Better to laugh in delight at the sweet antics of children and pets than to waste the gift of humor on the things of Satan.

GodsGrace101 · Mar 31, 2019

ace of hearts said:
No I was one. All truck drivers are virtuous because they have patience that would shame most.

I could understand why.
They have it tough...
God bless them all.

Ecclesiastian · Mar 31, 2019

Well apart from the fact that it makes sin a lighthearted matter--never a great thing--there's also the fact that it can cause harm to other people in regards to their behavior.

Something to keep in mind when reading Paul's advice and commands in regards to Christian behavior is that sometimes he's not deeming something sin outright but rather warning against it for the sake of the lost. For instance, he prescribes against eating meat from pagan offerings in public, but implies that it's fine in private. This is because he fears that Pagans will see Christians eating the meat from their offerings as a sign that Christianity is completely okay with Paganism so there's no real reason to come to Christ. Likewise a big reason Paul is against styling hair and braiding it excessively, etc. in one of his epistles is because he does not want Christian women to look like the Pagan prostitutes that were rampant in his day, it's not necessarily because the act itself is evil, but rather how it can be interpreted to the detriment of the ministry.

Likewise a crude joke may not be intended as a sinful act; but others could interpret it to mean that you, a Christian who is meant to have chastized themselves and been born to live anew without the sexual immorality, among other sins, of the world, are perfectly cool with the lustful kind of sex practiced by most in our world today, and this may be a sort of subconscious encouragement to them to continue in their ways. So even though the act itself, in your perception of it, may not be evil, it can help give rise to evil in others, and this is not how Christians should act. Christians are servants; we're supposed to love others and be considerate of them, and if they are lost, we should gently lead them in the right way and be an example of Christ to them. Things like crude humor put this in danger.

Unofficial Reverand Alex · Mar 31, 2019

I've been thinking about this more, and I suppose it just trivializes something that's already too trivialized. These jokes may not lead to people becoming rapists, but if sex is taken lightly enough, I suppose somebody trying to have sex with someone wouldn't really think about the possibility that anyone takes sex seriously. People not wanting to joke about it restores some of the sanctity; I suppose it would make people think twice before just getting laid for the fun of it, if they see people who take it more seriously.

I'm wondering if I shouldn't joke about drunkenness, now, for the same reason; it's something very trivialized that shouldn't be. Bringing a serious note into people laughing about how drunk they got might make people think a little more before getting hammered again. I don't think it'll do much, but I might as well do what I can.

Another thing that got me thinking about this in terms of trivializing things is my reasoning for all the jokes my friends made about each other's heritage in high school. I'm Polish, a friend of mine is Russian, another is black, another's a mutt, and another's Mexican. We'll joke with each other all the time, things like, "I guess the doorknob's too complicated for a Pollack!", and making these racist jokes at each other because it highlights the stupidity of racism!

Occasionally someone walking by would get really offended when we made jokes about my black friend, and they'd come over wide-eyed, saying, "You shouldn't say that!". Every time, my black friend would look them straight in the eyes, and say, "Begone, Cracker!". Or when my dad was asking a Mexican he works with why Mexicans always drive apehangers (those motorcycles with the handlebars above your head). Carlos responded, "We're used to having our hands up!" Joking about this trivializes something that is inherently stupid; I can't take legitimate racists seriously, because I connect their comments with all the stupid jokes we make, and they lose their power as a result.

But trivializing something that's not stupid, and something that we have control over (unlike death), that's where you can run into issues.

May God bless us all!

Presbyterian Continuist · Mar 31, 2019

Jonaitis said:
This subject was brought up between me and my former "Christian" boss when I did construction framing, and I made reference to this verse. His response was that we are not under law but under grace and lectured me on how there are many legalist churches that teach you cannot have a little fun. The irony in all of that was that he wanted to hire more Christians to work for him to clean the air in the workplace, but I ended up getting scolded and laughed at for all the times I refrained joining their pretty graphic jokes and conversations.

When I first became a Christian and someone told me a dirty joke I would say, "I didn't get it!" I found that stopped them after a while.

Presbyterian Continuist · Mar 31, 2019

☦Marius☦ said:
Forgive but 98% of the people I know in my life joke about all kinds of horrific things, but that doesn't mean they will do them. Joking about rape and raping someone take two completely different levels of depravity. Many people use dark humor as a coping method for tragedies they have seen or felt in their own lives. I know many people who are suicidally depressed but joke about it all the time. Why? To make the subject less serious for themselves.

I'm not justifying it, I'm just saying it's psychologically proven.

I found that the humour I found best was when I told jokes that laughed at myself instead of others. Although I enjoyed, as an usher, asking members when they entered the church whether they wanted to sit in the snoring or non-snoring section!

Presbyterian Continuist · Mar 31, 2019

Ken C. said:
I know you all have probably heard this one: I know God has a sense of humor because I have to look in the mirror everyday.

You too?

Jonaitis · Mar 31, 2019

Oscarr said:
When I first became a Christian and someone told me a dirty joke I would say, "I didn't get it!" I found that stopped them after a while.

"Guys, don't violate his virgin ears," was one response in a situation like that...

Presbyterian Continuist · Mar 31, 2019

Kenyon Ledford said:
If God said, "I know you're saved, but before I let you into heaven, tell me a joke."
I wouldn't tell him a dirty one...

That reminds me about the large crowd of people waiting to get into heaven. St Peter said, "All those who were the heads of their homes and had their wives under submission get into one line, and those who didn't into another line. The line where men did not have their wives under submission was very long, and there was only one man in other line. St Peter said to the one man, "You are to be highly commended for your courage to stand up to your wife in the way you ran your home!" The man blushed and admitted, "I came into this line because my wife told me to!"

Presbyterian Continuist · Mar 31, 2019

Jonaitis said:
"Guys, don't violate his virgin ears," was one response in a situation like that...

In some work places I have worked in that might be like pouring petrol on the fire! When one says, "I don't get it, please explain it to me" is a really good, and non offensive way of deflating the situation.

I had a workmate who kept taking the Lord's name in vain and using "Jesus Christ" as a swear word. I prevented him saying that around me by asking, "Are you one of His secret disciples then?"

Blade · Mar 31, 2019

For me.. the word talks about how we are to THINK.. Phil 4.. the fruits of the spirit.. All good things come from God. The 1st word..dirty.. should speak for it self. To then find some person that was a believer and told jokes of what ever.. does not mean its OK!

Humor.. no man is better at this then GOD.. it all came from Him. But..using the world how it talks sees things.. wont work. Again.. the 1st word.. dirty.

Jonaitis · Mar 31, 2019

Oscarr said:
In some work places I have worked in that might be like pouring petrol on the fire! When one says, "I don't get it, please explain it to me" is a really good, and non offensive way of deflating the situation.

I had a workmate who kept taking the Lord's name in vain and using "Jesus Christ" as a swear word. I prevented him saying that around me by asking, "Are you one of His secret disciples then?"

I don't know, gay bar jokes and religious jokes was often triggered by mentioning anything remotely Christian. If I kept my mouth shut, there was less jokes.

Presbyterian Continuist · Mar 31, 2019

Jonaitis said:
I don't know, gay bar jokes and religious jokes was often triggered by mentioning anything remotely Christian. If I kept my mouth shut, there was less jokes.

I think that the church is fair game for jokes, but I definitely draw the line with jokes concerning our Saviour and other Biblical characters. But there are a lot of funny things that happen in churches and the way people share the gospel, and I reckon a healthy church is one that can laugh at itself.

Like the cartoon which depicted a baptism and the guy being baptised wore a lifejacket, and the pastor remarked, "You don't have a lot of faith, do you?"

Ing Bee · Mar 31, 2019

Unofficial Reverand Alex said:
I'm asking this mostly as a devil's advocate question, because it's pretty well accepted across Christians that dirty jokes are unacceptable, but I rarely hear reasons as to why. Specifically, why are dirty jokes forbidden, but other offensive jokes allowed? I can joke about something blowing up & killing somebody, and that's fine, and I can joke about drug use, or other awful things, but not sex?

I'm interested to see where this goes.

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I think the main thing is to keep "love" as central in all aspects of life. There is a wide variety of humor available. There is intentional humor in the Bible (Hebrew writers use puns quite a bit).

1 Corinthians 13 is an excellent rubric to run humor (and anything else) through. Will this joke build up others? Will it encourage them to live better? Will it incite anger or offense?

I grew up with a sarcastic friend. Just to survive around his family, I had to develop a sarcastic sense of humor. As I grew older, and especially since I married a wonderful spouse who values saying true things, I determined not to be sarcastic and instead develop a habit of encouragement. Even if I seem dull when around more sarcastic people, I would rather be kind and encouraging that run the risk of harming someone.

I like Screwtape's evalutation of humor, the worst kind is flippancy: treating even very important things as if they are silly. In Chesterton's "Club of Queer Trades", he gives a story of a professional "social punching dummy" who writes clever things for others to say at him in order to make them look clever. The charade shows the heart of flippancy and other-focused sarcasm.

I think we have a tendency to focus on the negatives (what humor should we NOT use), rather than the positive formulation (What humor is good for building people up?).

Presbyterian Continuist · Mar 31, 2019

Ing Bee said:
I think the main thing is to keep "love" as central in all aspects of life. There is a wide variety of humor available. There is intentional humor in the Bible (Hebrew writers use puns quite a bit).

1 Corinthians 13 is an excellent rubric to run humor (and anything else) through. Will this joke build up others? Will it encourage them to live better? Will it incite anger or offense?

I grew up with a sarcastic friend. Just to survive around his family, I had to develop a sarcastic sense of humor. As I grew older, and especially since I married a wonderful spouse who values saying true things, I determined not to be sarcastic and instead develop a habit of encouragement. Even if I seem dull when around more sarcastic people, I would rather be kind and encouraging that run the risk of harming someone.

I like Screwtape's evalutation of humor, the worst kind is flippancy: treating even very important things as if they are silly. In Chesterton's "Club of Queer Trades", he gives a story of a professional "social punching dummy" who writes clever things for others to say at him in order to make them look clever. The charade shows the heart of flippancy and other-focused sarcasm.

I think we have a tendency to focus on the negatives (what humor should we NOT use), rather than the positive formulation (What humor is good for building people up?).

"Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit" was said by Oscar Wilde. He was right. It is not appropriate humour for a genuine believer.

But there are many other forms of humour that puts smiles on people's faces and generates laughter, and does not degrade others.

I believe that life is too serious to take it seriously.

DamianWarS · Mar 31, 2019

Oscarr said:
Anything that degrades sex, males or females is inappropriate.

anything that degrades as a whole is inappropriate so where do jokes fit into this?

Why no dirty jokes?

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