Is there really a Rainbow Bridge in heaven?

His student said:

That's a description of future events on earth - not in Heaven.

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The new earth IS heaven... That's where we are all spending eternity. That should be on everyone's mind when we think "heaven" as it's our future eternal home. God will restore his original creation, which includes us in our glorified bodies and the animals.

And again, if you are talking about the third heaven (God's throne where he is now) scripture says Jesus comes back down on a white horse.... Isn't a horse an animal? And isn't he coming down from heaven?

NothingIsImpossible said:

But I do possibly believe there will be animals that God created in Heaven that look like the animals of earth. None of these will be the "pets" we knew because they don't have souls that are in heaven.

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Excuse me? What do you mean by "possibly". I just showed you three verses of scripture that shows animals that we have on earth will be in heaven... The wolf and a lamb aren't animals to you? Dude, you are not making any sense... Did you read the scriptures I wrote? So why are you continually saying "possibly" when God says that will happen. Why are you denying his word?

NothingIsImpossible said:

Ultimately, everything we love about our pets is found in an infinitely more perfect form in God Himself, and He will be all you need and all you ever desired. So if you are more worried about a pet not being in heaven/new Earth, then you have the wrong priorities. Read below the quoted comment for why there is no animals in heaven, but why they will be on the new Earth (but not our pets).

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ABSOLUTELY WRONG and biblically incorrect. First of all, new earth IS HEAVEN. That is our permanent home. Second of all, THERE IS NO REASON he wouldn't bring back existing animals including pets. Why would he create brand new ones when his purpose is to restore his creation and he can bring back his original creation back? ALL living things have souls because they were created by God, and God is LIFE. Does it say this in scripture? Why would it need to when scripture is meant for man and not animals? They have eyes, ears, faces... The same characteristics as us only difference is we are created in the image of God so we have actual responsibilities, higher intelligence, and dominion over animals. God in fact says in the other verse I said to give regard for the beasts and show compassion to our animals. Are you actually kidding me right now... The bible is made FOR MAN. Instructions to US not animals. God has made animals instinctively, he can do what he wants with them. And you have the guts to say animals don't have souls and won't go to heaven when scripture specifically talks about animals in heaven? Ridiculous. Also I'm not worried at all because I read God's word and he directly and specifically says there will be animals in heaven, so I know that's happening anyway. It sounds more like you will be the one who will be disappointed there will be animals in heaven lol. And even when we are talking about the third heaven/God's throne, scripture says Jesus comes back down on a white horse from heaven so that proves that right there too.

NothingIsImpossible said:

While its clear in scripture that humans are a unity of material and immaterial parts, no such thing is said about animals.

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That's because the bible is a book for man and instructions on how to live our lives, not animals. Animals don't understand the bible, why would it need to talk about animals roles when it is for us? That doesn't mean they are not important, or that they don't go to heaven, they are creations by God... They are still mentioned countless times in scripture. I don't think any born-again Christian can hate any creation by God including animals and the planet, nature in general. I question your sincerity.

NothingIsImpossible said:

Humans are found to have immaterial minds, then a part of them exists apart from the body and it is why they enter heaven. On the other hand, if an animal dies there is nothing left of it to survive. It just becomes a, far lack of better words, a carcass.

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Again wrong and unbiblical. God will one day prove you wrong.

NothingIsImpossible said:

Now you must remember we are talking about "pets" I should have clarified that.

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Pets are still animals. Just because an animal has been domistacted doesn't mean it stops being an animal and a creation by God. God obviously isn't gonna make brand new animals because he specifically says he will "restore" his creation. What does restoring mean? It means bringing the earth back to how it should be before sin. Bringing us back in our glorified bodies, and animals back that he originally created. And there will be no more death for either humans or animals, because scripture says death and sin is no more.

NothingIsImpossible said:

In short I can see a cat that looks like mine in heaven, but it will not be my cat. Its a different creation that does not have the personality of my cat. Because it is as I said a new animal. I should really say they aren't in heaven, more so they are on the new Earth.

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And where in the bible does it say it will be a different cat? THERE IS NO REASON GOD WOULD MAKE NEW ANIMALS WHEN WE HAVE PERFECTLY FINE ONES HERE ON EARTH THAT HE COULD BRING BACK. What you wrote is not scriptural. It fits God's character to bring back the dead, including all animals and creatures. There is no reason he wouldn't do that and you can't find in the bible that says all the current animals will die for eternity and there will be brand new ones in heaven.

And for the billionth time, new earth IS heaven. It will be filled with humans and animals, humans in new glorified bodies and animals including our pets who have died.

section9+1 said:

I think the least sure of yourself you are on this possibility, the stronger you will need to defend it. It will be what it will be. I will be content either way. I still don't see anything referring directly to people's own pets. It also says that outside the holy city will be the dogs. I don't think that refers to actual dogs, but is figurative. But if you want to hold to literalness in this then take the dogs literally as well.

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Well pets are animals... It says there are animals, so why not people's pets? Does it have to say that if it's already obvious? I just posted tons of scripture so whatever, believe it or not it says so right there talking about wolves, lambs, leopards, and horses in heaven. One of the things I am pretty suspect about is why so many people are against it too and try to prove it wrong, like they completely deny the scriptural evidence because they just can't stand the idea of animals going to heaven too. It's pretty dumb. Just because because the bible is not instructions for animals but it's a book for humans. That somehow "proves" to them that animals don't matter at all, even though we are the most important in God's creation and have the most responsibility, and can understand and comprehend God's instructions as they are meant for us, not animals. It doesn't mean God disregards his creation of animals, and he even tells us not to either as he states to have regard for your beast. Animals are beautiful creations by God. We are obviously more important and have responsibilities to fill out and we were made in the image of God. But animals were still created by God, and God is all good, so I always question people who don't have regard for animals and say they don't go to heaven when scripture says we should have regard for them and scripture says they will be in heaven.

Cis.jd said:

We would still need to, mainly because of stuff in language called metaphors, translations, interpretation, etc.

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How on earth can it be a metaphor when God talks about restoring his original creation? His original creation included animals.. He didn't just make animals just because. He made them originally because that was his divine plan. The new earth will be like his original plan for the earth before sin came, and that included animals. There is absolutely no reason to believe this is a metaphor. How can it be a metaphor when it talks about "creatures" below and above it is directly talking about literal animals here...

chilehed said:

Animals don't have an eternal existence, and so wouldn't have any sort of afterlife on their own account. And while there will be puppies in heaven if our happiness depends on it, there's little reason to think that it will.

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Incorrect again, read my post. I am shocked at how many people don't know this. A reminder is that heaven is not just our home, it is God's place of dwelling too. So if he wants to have animals there then he will. The bible says there will, read the three verses I posted. Talking about creatures, leopards, wolves, lambs, the horse, etc.

Also just another reminder to everyone, God only puts things in the bible that are to our benefit and that what we should know. He talks about heaven being a place of no sin and some descriptive stuff. But we do not know everything God has in plan for us, heaven is a place we can't even comprehend right now. So just because it's not directly in scripture, doesn't mean it won't happen. We don't know all the cool things that will be in heaven, we only have a glimpse of it in the word, but nowhere near everything God has planned.

But this is all irrelevant because I already proved with scripture animals will be in heaven. He directly tells us that.

DM25 said:

The new earth IS heaven...

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What have you been smoking? There will be a new Heaven and there will be a new earth.

DM25 said:

That's where we are all spending eternity.

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As they say at Geico - everyone knows that.

DM25 said:

That should be on everyone's mind when we think "heaven"

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Say what????

DM25 said:

God will restore his original creation, which includes us in our glorified bodies and the animals.

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God does appear to restore the original earth. But then He burns it up and creates a new earth as well as a new Heaven --- and the two are not the same.

DM25 said:

And again, if you are talking about the third heaven (God's throne where he is now) scripture says Jesus comes back down on a white horse.... Isn't a horse an animal? And isn't he coming down from heaven?

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Yes - He's coming down from Heaven to earth. The two are obviously not the same.

While a horse is certainly an animal - it isn't at all clear that He is riding a literal horse any more than death, famine, or the anti Christ will be riding literal horses of various colors.

Look - judging by your long involved and emotional posts on what is a rather peripheral topic IMO - this is obviously very important to you.

I like animals as well as the next guy. I hope there will be animals on the new earth. It seems that there will be in the Millennium at least.

God pronounced His original creation good. So there likely will be animals again on the new earth.

But just because you want it to be so - don't go off the deep end and insult people the way you have been doing just because they won't fully agree with your views.

I can hardly wait to see what God has in store for those who love Him. But I won't stoop to fighting with my brothers and sister about what eye has not yet seen.

His student said:

I hope there will be animals on the new earth.

So there likely will be animals again.

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I'm just confused why you say "I hope" and "likely" when I showed you THREE verses of animals being on new earth... And there are many more too. Did you read them? How do you explain them away? Wolves, lambs, calfs, lions and leopards aren't animals? Creatures below aren't animals? Why do you say "I hope" and "probably" when God directly states it in scripture? Does that mean you doubt God's word? You are denying what he said by saying "probably" and you are saying it's a possibility it won't happen when God says it will happen. You're not making any sense. So why are you doubting God's word then and saying "probably" and "I hope" when he literally and directly said there will be animals on new earth? It's not about "views" it's about what scripture literally says. Unless you're gonna say lions, calfs, leopards, lambs, wolves, aren't animals, your statement of "I hope" and "probably" animals being on new earth makes no sense at all. That's all I want to know..

Just as a reminder:

Isaiah 11:6-9
"The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder's den. They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea."

Isaiah 65:25
The wolf and the lamb shall graze together; the lion shall eat straw like the ox, and dust shall be the serpent's food. They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain,” says the Lord.

Revelation 5:13
And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!”

His student said:

While a horse is certainly an animal - it isn't at all clear that He is riding a literal horse any more than death, famine, or the anti Christ will be riding literal horses of various colors.

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Oh come on... You really have to go that far to say it's a metaphorical horse? Do we REALLY need to go there?

His student said:

What have you been smoking? There will be a new Heaven and there will be a new earth.
As they say at Geico - everyone knows that.
Say what????
God does appear to restore the original earth. But then He burns it up and creates a new earth as well as a new Heaven --- and the two are not the same.

Yes - He's coming down from Heaven to earth. The two are obviously not the same.

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I'm not smoking anything. Our heaven is new earth... New earth and heaven is the same to us. When people think of "heaven" what it means is the place of paradise for us eternally... That is new earth. New earth is heaven. That's our eternal home and paradise. God's throne (the third heaven) is separate but that's not where we will be residing permanently and that's not where new Jerusalem is, so that is irrelevant to this conversation for us. The new earth will be our permanent eternal home and "heaven" in terms of paradise. It will be God's restored creation. Yes it will be new, but his original creation and plan, which includes animals (as stated above in those verses in scriptures) and humans in glorified bodies will be there so his original creation is restored without sin.

Again, all those verses I posted directly prove there will be animals in heaven.

DM25 said:

Umm it's not even up for debate... How can you such a thing when the bible literally says so? Why are you denying the biblical evidence? Why are you saying "will likely be around"when scripture directly says the wolf will feed with the lamb? I'm just not sure why you say there is no biblical evidence, when the bible literally says word for word there will be animals in heaven. It's not even up for debate... God himself said our pets our going to heaven. So your comment makes no sense at all and it seems like you're not reading the bible because this is exactly what the bible says....

Isaiah 65:25: "The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD."

Isaiah 11:6-9
"The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder's den. They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea."


Revelation 5:13
"And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!”


So you were saying...??? It's not even a question or a debate... There are animals in heaven, our pets will be going to heaven, and if you deny that and say there isn't then you are denying the word of God. It says so so plainly and directly in scripture, as I proved to you in these verses.

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This makes me so happy as I would love to see all my old pets in heaven.

I'm sure if we need them there, they will be there.

Personally, I am not a pet person anymore.

FireDragon76 said:

Personally, I am not a pet person anymore.

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Why not?

DM25 said:

Why not?

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Pets cost too much, and I have other outlets and hobbies in my life. Still, if they are cute kittens in heaven, I will not be complaining.

DM25 said:

How on earth can it be a metaphor when God talks about restoring his original creation? His original creation included animals.. He didn't just make animals just because. He made them originally because that was his divine plan. The new earth will be like his original plan for the earth before sin came, and that included animals. There is absolutely no reason to believe this is a metaphor. How can it be a metaphor when it talks about "creatures" below and above it is directly talking about literal animals here...

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It's metaphorical just by looking at the vocabulary, even when translated. You sound like another delusional believer who just loves your beliefs on this that you think your literalism is valid.

Cis.jd said:

It's metaphorical just by looking at the vocabulary, even when translated. You sound like another delusional believer who just loves your beliefs on this that you think your literalism is valid.

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This verse is metaphorical to you?
Revelation 5:13
And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!”

You just like denying scripture when its right there in front of you. It's ironic considering you have a dog as your profile pic.

DM25 said:

Excuse me? What do you mean by "possibly".

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I seen you mentioned in your first topic on here you have been a christian for two years. One think you need to learn is be careful of becoming "holier than thou". While its great when someone is saved, they often get so excited that they rush into any conversation and often don't realize how they are coming off.

In regards to pets, which you seemed obsessed about. Like I said pets will not be in heaven. You have to learn what it means to cherry pick verses because I could pick a few verses out of context and make it sound like God said once saved, we will never have any problems in life. Also heaven/new earth.... teachings vary on the subject. Theres not a neasy go to answer when it comes to the new earth.

Lastly I'd say I realize you have OCD and anxiety issues...etc. I tend to notice people with OCD get easily riled up and frustrated when someone debates something with them. For example the obsession with the subject of pets. I'd say when things feel out of your control simply say "Lets agree to disagree.". Because often these debates will go on forever and ever. Especially as a christian you got to know when to let go because sometimes these things become our idols.

DM25 said:

But this is all irrelevant because I already proved with scripture animals will be in heaven

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No you didn't. You proved that you think that scripture says so, by referencing passages that can't reasonably be taken to mean it.

Rev. 5:13. So this verse tells us that God gave every creature voice boxes like ours and the ability to speak Greek or Hebrew so John could understand them. And somehow he heard them all saying the same thing. That sounds too literal to me. I don't know what God may do. It is a mystery, but one that we need not go to extremes to defend or deny. It's not worth standing either way on this and judging everyone else's faith according to this topic. It's peripheral and not a crucial issue. Christians have enough doctrinal issues to chew on with each other as it is. So don't get too whacked out over it.

DM25 said:

Why is this even a question among Christians when God says so himself in scripture? I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around this even being a discussion or debate and people denying it when God himself already confirms it and clearly states there are animals in heaven in the bible directly:

Isaiah 65:25: "The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD."

Isaiah 11:6-9
"The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder's den. They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea."


Revelation 5:13
"And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!”

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Those verses don't say what you say. The first two say "holy mountain" and the third says "heaven and earth". I don't know where this concept came from, but it's not in the bible.

DM25 said:

This verse is metaphorical to you?
Revelation 5:13
And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!”

You just like denying scripture when its right there in front of you. It's ironic considering you have a dog as your profile pic.

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I'm not. When you think about what you are reading and apply reasoning with it, there is no way any of that sounds literate.
"every creature" on a Sphere earth being heard saying the same thing. Is it all in one language? So lets say John, during his vision, in New York City is he hearing a bunch of ants and worms in China sayin "to him who sits"?

Point is, we don't know how heaven is like. We can interpret based on what we read, but that is it. We have to apply reason and logic to what we read as well, just to make sure we are not floating into illiteracy.

I myself think animals should go to heaven, and see it as completely unreasonable to any teaching of a just and loving God that animals don' go to heaven -- especially since they have not done or caused the same level of evil and damage towards creation as humans do. Nevertheless, the Bible doesn't have a "yes" or "no" towards this, so we can only theorize.

Cis.jd said:

I myself think animals should go to heaven, ... Nevertheless, the Bible doesn't have a "yes" or "no" towards this, so we can only theorize.

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As I said. You think so, but not because the Bible says it.

chilehed said:

No you didn't. You proved that you think that scripture says so, by referencing passages that can't reasonably be taken to mean it.

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Yes I proved it with those verses "lamb and wolf feed together". How else do you interpret that?

I think I'm gonna need to stop replying to this thread. I put verses down, don't know why everyone is ignoring them. But whatever, if you don't want animals in heaven maybe God will make them invisible to you lol. Whatever.