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Is the baby growing in the womb part of her reproductive health?
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Trump admin cuts $60 million from Planned Parenthood
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Is the baby growing in the womb part of her reproductive health?
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I wasn't aware that anyone was forcing women to get abortions. I doubt that is legal. Forcing women to get an abortion does not seem to be in line with the idea of pro choice. I suggest that any woman should call law enforcement if someone is insisting that they must get an abortion.
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Okay. Now I am really getting upset. Honestly, this is something that I would be willing to disfellowship from someone if they supported this murder.
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When abortion has been justified for as long as it has, it only makes sense that the proponents of it try to push the boundaries to this point. After this, the age of the baby will go up and up. Maybe even up to age 18 on the basis that the toddler/teenager has to be allowed to die in order to protect the mental health of the mother if the child is becoming too big of a burden for her.
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Where did I say anything about "forcing" women to get abortions?
When someone says "If you must do something, I'd rather...", it doesn't mean "I'm forcing you"; it means "if you insist on doing this, for whatever reason, I would prefer [conditions]"
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Elective abortion, which makes up the vast majority, is not "women who need health care"... it's a form of birth control.
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Planned Parenthood does not provide cancer screenings. This has been debunked several times. It provides referrals. Great - send the money to those who actually provide services.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-provides-mammograms/?utm_term=.db4be1ea0d09
And yes, every service is counted independently in order to reduce the appearance of the prevalence of abortion. Even a woman who obtains an abortion will have multiple services, in order to reduce the percentage of abortion services provided. She will receive contraception (for afterward), anesthesia, referrals, consults...all "separate services".
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U.S. Abortion Statistics
WHY DO ABORTIONS OCCUR?
- In 2004, the Guttmacher Institute anonymously surveyed 1,209 post-abortive womenfrom nine different abortion clinics across the country. Of the women surveyed, 957 provided a main reason for having an abortion. This table lists each reason and the percentage of respondents who chose it.
Percentage Reason
<0.5% Victim of rape
3% Fetal health problems
4% Physical health problems
4% Would interfere with education or career
7% Not mature enough to raise a child
8% Don't want to be a single mother
19% Done having children
23% Can't afford a baby
25% Not ready for a child
6% Other
- In 2014, the highest percentage of pregnancies were aborted in the District of Columbia(38%), New York (33%), and New Jersey (30%). The lowest percentage of pregnancies were aborted in Utah (5%), South Dakota (4%), and Wyoming (<2%). (AGI abortion data + CDC birth data).
- In 2015, approximately 35% of all pregnancies in New York City (excluding spontaneous miscarriages) ended in abortion (CDC).
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It's called common sense Ringo.... woman gets pregnant by having unprotected sex and decides she doesn't want the pregnancy and gets an abortion to move on with her life. Elective, not urgent health care....
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How Women Decide Abortion Is the Right Choice for Them
According to this article, only 12% of abortions are "health related". The rest is merely birth control.
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Dude, just read post #92. The citation you asked for is right there.
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@Ringo84 Sir, I get you in your passion. However, the separation of funds from a big ole slush fund is for over-site by you, the people. A thing you may not be aware of is PP takes money out tax funds to give to election funds . In hypothetical picture it looks like this...
Trump campaign funding paid in part from PP taken from the tax payer. Now, you paid taxes but do not support a Trump. Well you just paid "in part" some of his campaign funding weather you like it or not.
Thus, the 60 million was taken so they can not do this with the peoples tax.
Sir, it is not PP as a whole that is responsible for lobbying with tax payer dollars as others do this thing as well. Thus, it takes your choice of where your tax dollars go by the top echelon . In time, this scandal will be brought forth on TV. If you want proof right now of this ya got to research in places you might not want to go. A good start is campaign funding of congress on both sides of the isle and see how many PP's come up. This is not their money but yours.
Hope this helps good sir.
Trump campaign funding paid in part from PP taken from the tax payer. Now, you paid taxes but do not support a Trump. Well you just paid "in part" some of his campaign funding weather you like it or not.
Thus, the 60 million was taken so they can not do this with the peoples tax.
Sir, it is not PP as a whole that is responsible for lobbying with tax payer dollars as others do this thing as well. Thus, it takes your choice of where your tax dollars go by the top echelon . In time, this scandal will be brought forth on TV. If you want proof right now of this ya got to research in places you might not want to go. A good start is campaign funding of congress on both sides of the isle and see how many PP's come up. This is not their money but yours.
Hope this helps good sir.
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I agree with your statement. Secular law does not have to be based on the biblical commands by God. However, when a secular law legalizes wickedness, it ought to be your duty as a Christian to place God's Word above the law of man. To suggest otherwise would be to say that Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were wrong for refusing to obey the secular laws commanding them commit idolatry. It is part of "taking up your cross" and being a disciple of Christ.
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Your translation is wrong.
"In favor of the NIV translation are the following arguments:
1. There is a Hebrew verb for miscarry or lose by abortion or be bereaved of the fruit of the womb, namely, shakal. It is used nearby in Exodus 23:26, "None shall miscarry (meshakelah) or be barren in your land." But this word is NOT used here in Exodus 21:22-25.
2. Rather the word for birth here is "go forth" (ytsa'). "And if her children go forth . . ." This verb never refers to a miscarriage or abortion. When it refers to a birth it refers to live children "going forth" or "coming out" from the womb. For example, Genesis 25:25, "And the first came out (wyetse') red, all of him like a hairy robe; and they called his name Esau." (See also v. 26 and Genesis 38:28-30.)
So the word for miscarry is not used but a word is used that elsewhere does not mean miscarry but ordinary live birth. "
The Misuse of Exodus 21:22–25 by Pro-Choice Advocates
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