Is the Rapture shown in 1Thess 4 showing in Revelation? If so, where?
Discuss please..........
I vote yes.
It's right here:
"And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
The "sackcloth sun" here is the same one as the "darkened" sun from Matthew 24. And the "stars" that fall are the same "stars" from Matthew 24. These are the "stars" of heaven. These are the "stars" from Joel 38:
"As the morning stars sang together
and all the angels shouted for joy?
Like a Hebrew couplet, the "stars" and the "angels" are the same thing.
But we are the untimely Figs,
The winter Fruit,
When shaken by a mighty wind.
God transferred some things around in the NT. The "glorious land", the "holy place". For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel. We are not all the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring. And those who are in Judea, in Judah, flee to the mountains. Those who are in Jesus, the Lion of the tribe of, and we are of that Tribe.
"Like grapes in the wilderness, I found Israel. Like the first fruit on the fig tree in its first season, I saw your fathers.
But we are now the seed of Abraham, the Israel of God. The raptured individuals from the sixth seal are the fruit from this same tree, the untimely or winter fruit of this tree.
And the "stars" that fall from Heaven, are falling in a controlled flight, as a sky diver would. Each of these stars will be on a mission to grab one of us, to gather His elect from the four corners.
That's the sign of the Son of Man. In three days "I will raise it up". He was talking about His Body. We are that Body of Christ. But Jesus didn't do his own resurrection, His Father, our Father did. So He wasn't saying, destroy this temple and in three days I will resurrect myself, He was saying that in three days His believers will all have passed from death into life. Verily He said to us, it's a sure thing. Because we know that the One who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you to himself.
"Because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”
So the sign of the Son of Man is the rapture. We won't see the sign of the Son of Man because we ARE the sign of the Son of Man. That's the Fig Tree when it sheds it's WINTER fruit when shaken by a mighty wind.
At the 7th trumpet the dead in Christ rise and then in a split second, we who remain alive will join them in the air. Billions of resurrected saints from all of history light up the stratosphere. Some will shine like the brightness of heaven, others will shine like the stars forever and ever. Then a billion more holy angels are sent to gather them from the four corners of the heavens.
And all the tribes of the earth will mourn the worst day in their lives, they missed the boat. We won't mourn because we won't be included with the tribes of the earth anymore. We are in the best Tribe, the Lion of the Judah Tribe. Our appearance in the sky will be a unique event in history. Some will shine like the sky above, some like the stars forever and ever. And THEY will see the sign of the Son of Man, an awesome confirmation of the rest of the dead's worst fears.
Do some more couplets man.
The Hebrew Couplet.
Psalm 24:7
"Lift up your heads, O gates!
And be lifted up, O ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.
This should be the classic example of the Hebrew couplet. The "gates" are the same thing as the "ancient doors". Easy right? Like poetry.
Isaiah 34:8
"For the LORD has a day of vengeance,
a year of recompense for the cause of Zion.
In this case a "day" of vengeance, appears to the the equivalent to a "year" of recompense.
Daniel 8:19
"I am going to tell you what will happen later in the time of wrath,
because the vision concerns the appointed time of the end.
Gabriel is telling Daniel that the "time of wrath" is the same thing as the "appointed time of the end". The appointed time of the end IS the time of wrath.
Psalm 24:1
"The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it,
the world, and all who live in it;
"For he founded it upon the seas
and established it upon the waters.
Ultimate Couplet,
Peaceful Sabbath.
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
