We are in the world, WT#$%^ are you talking about?
We are in the world but we are not of the world.
Big difference.
We do not love what the world loves (like it's sinful movies, sinful music, and sinful philosophies, etc.).
Also, watch the language.
Paul says,
"Let your speech
be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6).
Also, see the words of Jesus in Matthew 12:35.
You said:
I get exited going on an afternoon drive too, or to the mall or whatever but that doesn't mean I love my car/the mall more than I should or to the point of lust, it really has nothing to do with any of the stuff in the scripture you provided.
Unless you own a 100,000 dollar sports car, your car is not sinful like a secular movie. Yes, you can love your car and make it an idol if you are not careful. Christians are not immune to making regular things they own into idols or something more important than it should be.
You said:
No, the problem is you see them as such when I put it right in front of you what your own scripture said, and asked you too tell me how my movies were that?
I am not getting what you are saying here. Please rephrase the question in a clearer way. Thank you.
You said:
Again How do these movies make me lustful for instance?...you still haven't answered the question because you cannot.
So you are saying that you have never once looked at a woman in a movie or TV show in a lustful way because of the way she was dressed or the lack thereof?
You never once later fantasized (in an intimate way) about a woman from a movie or TV series later on?
For example: You said "WT#$%^" in your post. This suggests that you are swearing, which is popular among secular movies. See. You do not even realize the effect that they have upon you.
Besides, even if these movies or shows never once make you stumbled into some kind of sin (which I find hard to believe), they still promote sinful things. Paul says we are to avoid evil communications. This would include secular movies because they are putting forth evil communications.
"Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners." (1 Corinthians 15:33).
You said:
There is much worse in the Bible...murder, rape, you name it, and I read those stories and don't turn a blind eye to any of it.
Wow. Really?! You want to call God's Holy Word as being worse than a secular movie? There are so many levels of wrong to this statement I do not even know where to begin. The Bible tells us about murder and rape but it also condemns these things. If it did not speak of how these things were wrong, then you might be on to something. But the Bible doesn't do that. So you are comparing apples to french poodles.
You said:
You view is screwy, you seem to think because we watch it, we condone everything that goes on in the movie, or like the bad stuff or some such nonsense.
The thing is that it does not lead to Biblical ideals or the gospel. It leaves those things out conveniently. It promotes sin and a false sense of morality or an unbiblical philosophy or ideal. You cannot see this (You will not see this) unless you sin really bad from watching a movie or TV show and you repent in disgust of such a thing. Your disgust of the sinfulness within these movies will not be apparent to you unless you put them away in repentance. I know. I could not see that Daredevil was a super hero who dressed up as the devil. Like a good guy is supposed to dress up as something evil? Okay. That is nutty. But I couldn't see it before. I loved collecting Marvel comics and even loved the movies and TV series. That is until I put away these things in repentance (Whereby I could see them for what they really were).
You said:
I read the story of Adam and Eve but didn't condone what Satan did, and found the story rather intriguing...so what?
Again, there was a moral lesson for good and a plan of salvation involved in the story of Adam and Eve. The coming Messiah (the second Adam) would be their Savior. This is not at all like a secular sinful movie. Not sure why you think the Bible is the same as a sinful secular movie.
You said:
But if your way of thinking, whatever that is, makes you feel special somehow...fine, that's all I can figure is going on here since you touted what you do over what I was doing, because none of your reasoning makes any sense whatsoever...it's the type thing people invent for reasons I won't get into.
You are free to disagree all you like. But you are only denying the truth of 1 John 2:16-18. I know. I also denied the truth of this passage at one time, as well. I felt uneasy reading this passage or coming across it. Do you feel that way when you read 1 John 2:16-18? Try doing a deep study on this passage some time and see where it leads you. Pray to God for the understanding and do not seek to justify your own thoughts of what you prefer to see and enjoy.
You said:
Too much, man. That explains so much about you seeing things that aren't there. There is no such indication at all. The movie actually has some good lessons, it's quite moving, among other things, much much like something I would read in the Bible. So how bout bible stories? do you feel you "lust after those, do you think others do or could? I'm serious, I don't see the connection still to your scripture explaining "the world" and the movie, but I've given you a second chance to answer.
Jesus said,
"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me." (John 5:39).
16 "All scripture
is given by inspiration of God, and
is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
(2 Timothy 3:16-17).
All Scripture speaks of Jesus in some way and it is profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness so that the man of God might be perfect unto every good work.
How exactly does a sinful secular movie that leaves out the message of Christ and His good ways do that?
Okay. I want you to stop. Get your Bible out. Get a note book and a pen or pencil out. I want you to examine every sinful thing you see in a secular movie the next time you watch it. I want you to take note the lack of the preaching of Jesus Christ and His good ways, as well. Make note of these things and see if they are something that will guide you to have a closer relationship with the Lord or not. My bet is that they are going to lead you away from Christ and they will not draw you closer to Him.
Take for example the Avengers. A comic and movie series I used to love. In this new film, they will have a sorcerer in it (i.e. Doctor Strange). In the Bible: God condemns witchcraft or sorcery. I choose to dedicate myself to the Lord and not watch things that promote sinful things that God clearly condemns in His Word.
