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I had hoped to come here and find rational Christians that could agree on the Bible as God's word. I had hoped that scriptural accuracy alone would suffice. As evidence I asked what God was describing in Genesis 1:1-2.
Genesis 1:1-2
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form and void; darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
Genesis 1:1-2 Hebrew – direct translation in English
“in·beginning, Elohim (God), created, the·heavens, and, the·earth, and·the·earth, she-became, chaos, and·vacancy, and·darkness, over, surfaces-of, abyss, and·spirit-of, Elohim, vibrating, over, surfaces-of, the·waters.”
This is God stating the first act He performed in our (humans) physical universe. If God is perfect and He need not re-create anything, how can any Christian state God did anything prior to this? (This is a rhetorical question for many Christians on this forum have tried to demonstrate just that). If you are one of those I urge you to Stop! For the second you do this you render God fallible, if God is fallible then the whole rest of the Bible is unnecessary. If you are doing this you are keeping people from coming to know Christ! Have you therefore just become a Pharisee? Think about that, does your description of Genesis keep people from knowing Christ? Illogical theories about Genesis will do exactly that. Another rhetorical question when you pick up a any book and start to read, where do you start?
If we continue on in Genesis Land and Seas are not named (as in Upper case actual names) by God, until the 3rd day of God's creation (not man's days). Again, if you believe God is perfect why would he create the Earth then describe it as without form, void, darkness, deep, chaos, vacancy, abyss, vibrating, waters? Is God wrong in his own description? (also rhetorical). Therefore the "waters" and the "earth" in Genesis 1:1-2 must be representative of something else... because he names Land and Seas in day 3 (unless God is fallible). For this reason we need not guess, for God has described his creation(s), and the order of his creation(s). If there were anything that He to needed to create before Genesis 1:1, He would have described it, for He is the CREATOR. (Unless He is Fallible...)
I have only offered scripture here, no outside science, bias, or opinion. If you have trouble with scripture your trouble lies with God, not I, for I am simply repeating the words he gave us (humanity).
I pray that each person that read this, stop being deaf in spirit and listen to the words of God, so that they may know the truth, even if that contradicts what they were taught or believed to be accurate for many years.
I will not respond to any scriptural arguments as I need not defend God, again the Book of Genesis is his words not mine!
God Bless, (GBTG) Glory Be To God
PS I forgot to demonstrate illogical word play deployed in Genesis, as Genesis 1:1 States heaven and earth (two things), many people try and apply all the descriptions to the latter, what about the former? If we understand that space is a vacuum, is God’s choice of the words, void or vacancy a sufficient description? Another word, chaos; God created volcano's please describe the order found inside a volcano, or is chaos also an apt description? (rhetorical). Lastly a word like “becoming” has no direct Hebrew to English translation (or vice verse), instead it infers “to be” as in it wasn’t then it came “to be” (creation). Are translation errors the fault of God or man? (rhetorical)
Genesis 1:1-2
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form and void; darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
Genesis 1:1-2 Hebrew – direct translation in English
“in·beginning, Elohim (God), created, the·heavens, and, the·earth, and·the·earth, she-became, chaos, and·vacancy, and·darkness, over, surfaces-of, abyss, and·spirit-of, Elohim, vibrating, over, surfaces-of, the·waters.”
This is God stating the first act He performed in our (humans) physical universe. If God is perfect and He need not re-create anything, how can any Christian state God did anything prior to this? (This is a rhetorical question for many Christians on this forum have tried to demonstrate just that). If you are one of those I urge you to Stop! For the second you do this you render God fallible, if God is fallible then the whole rest of the Bible is unnecessary. If you are doing this you are keeping people from coming to know Christ! Have you therefore just become a Pharisee? Think about that, does your description of Genesis keep people from knowing Christ? Illogical theories about Genesis will do exactly that. Another rhetorical question when you pick up a any book and start to read, where do you start?
If we continue on in Genesis Land and Seas are not named (as in Upper case actual names) by God, until the 3rd day of God's creation (not man's days). Again, if you believe God is perfect why would he create the Earth then describe it as without form, void, darkness, deep, chaos, vacancy, abyss, vibrating, waters? Is God wrong in his own description? (also rhetorical). Therefore the "waters" and the "earth" in Genesis 1:1-2 must be representative of something else... because he names Land and Seas in day 3 (unless God is fallible). For this reason we need not guess, for God has described his creation(s), and the order of his creation(s). If there were anything that He to needed to create before Genesis 1:1, He would have described it, for He is the CREATOR. (Unless He is Fallible...)
I have only offered scripture here, no outside science, bias, or opinion. If you have trouble with scripture your trouble lies with God, not I, for I am simply repeating the words he gave us (humanity).
I pray that each person that read this, stop being deaf in spirit and listen to the words of God, so that they may know the truth, even if that contradicts what they were taught or believed to be accurate for many years.
I will not respond to any scriptural arguments as I need not defend God, again the Book of Genesis is his words not mine!
God Bless, (GBTG) Glory Be To God
PS I forgot to demonstrate illogical word play deployed in Genesis, as Genesis 1:1 States heaven and earth (two things), many people try and apply all the descriptions to the latter, what about the former? If we understand that space is a vacuum, is God’s choice of the words, void or vacancy a sufficient description? Another word, chaos; God created volcano's please describe the order found inside a volcano, or is chaos also an apt description? (rhetorical). Lastly a word like “becoming” has no direct Hebrew to English translation (or vice verse), instead it infers “to be” as in it wasn’t then it came “to be” (creation). Are translation errors the fault of God or man? (rhetorical)
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