The Son's Name in the Old Testament

Neal of Zebulun · Nov 6, 2017

Proverbs 30:

4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is His Name, and what is his Son's Name, if thou canst tell?

The question of what is "His Name" is easily answered. It's "Yahweh" (Hebrew: יהוה).

But the second question is much more difficult to answer in the confines of the Old Testament (which is where it's asked.)

By the Grace of Yahweh Elohiym through His only begotten Son Yahushua Christ, I have gathered a selection of verses to help reveal what Christ's Name in the Old Testament is!:

John 1:

18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Exodus 33:

11 And Yahweh spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend.

What? Is this a contradiction? Hold on, let's read further in the same chapter:

Exodus 33:

20 And he [Yahweh] said [to Moses], Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

23 ..thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

Yup, that's all in the same chapter. So how is this not a contradiction?

Numbers 12:

8 With..[Moses] will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of Yahweh shall he behold..

Hebrews 1:

3 ..[the Son] being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person..

John 14:

9 ..Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father..

Numbers 14:

14 ..thou Yahweh art among this people..thou Yahweh art seen face to face..

Colossians 2:

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Exodus 23:

20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

Hebrews 1:

4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

This is the same Angel of Yahweh that was in the cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night. The Angel has the same Name as Father in heaven, and He is who Moses spoke with face to face, not the Father, but the Son!

Deuteronomy 34:

10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom Yahweh knew face to face,

John 5:

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

Quite literally!

Mark 12:29, Deuteronomy 6:

4 Hear, O Israel: Yahweh our God is One Yahweh:

So if this passage never quite made sense to you before, it should now. This is one of two excellent passages that are referenced in this forum's Statement of Faith under "ONE God."

I believe Deuteronomy 6:4 (which is quoted in Mark 12:29) is the Old Testament's way of saying:

John 10:

30 I and my Father are one.

To learn more about God, I encourage you to read John 10:30-36, and Psalms 82:6, which relate to the topic of the Body of Christ: (1 Corinthians 12, Romans 12)

Praise יהוה!

drjean · Nov 6, 2017

Luke 24:13-27, Luke writes that Jesus taught the two disciples on the Emmaus road about himself from the OT verse 24:37, “And beginning with Moses and all the prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.”

and then there's:
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning GOD....
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

in the Old Testament the “word” of God is often personified as an instrument for the execution of God’s will (Psalm 33:6; 107:20; 119:89; 147:15-18). So, for his Jewish readers, by introducing Jesus as the “Word,” John is in a sense pointing them back to the Old Testament where the Logos or “Word” of God is associated with the personification of God’s revelation

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Neal of Zebulun · Nov 7, 2017

now faith said:
Yahuah – The ABBA Father

Yahusha 216 times – The Son, the Messiah, Ha Mashiach, The Savior – This Name Mean in Hebrew Yahu Saves & Yahu Delivers.
Wikipedia

@now faith

I hope you don't mind, but I decided to respond to your post in this different thread! Please read the first post of this very thread before reading any further in this one, because I will be referencing it.

I have some comments to make about your post, and then some Scripture to quote. I hope they're helpful!:

About Father's Name, as you've written it or quoted it: ֹthere is only one syllable that is different between Yahu"ah" and Yahu"eh" (which is spoken the same as "Yahweh.") I'm open to discussion about which it should be. However, let it be known that the Name on occasion appears with different vowel points, probably indicating a different inflection of the Name as relative to what the speaker was saying, in order to emphasize one of its qualities. But usually, it's spelt יְהוָה (which appears to be in the piel voice), and a second is יְהוִה, and a third is יְהֹוָה (if I remember correctly.)

Messiah's full name (indicated by Acts of the Apostles 7:45) is Yahu"shua" and not Yahu"sha," which is considered a defective spelling. The full spelling is יהושוע, but when written as יהושֻע, the kubutz on the shin indicates the waw, so Yahu"sha" is actually Yahu"shua."

Literally, it does not mean "Yahu saves" but rather "Yahu is Salvation." (See quoted Scripture below for contextual proof. The following is a grammatical one: ) in Scripture, the root verb is used in the passive niphal voice, meaning "to be saved," and the hiphil voice meaning "to save." But "shua" is not in the niphal or hiphil, and the verb is never used in the qal, so it should be read as a qal passive participle noun, i.e. "Salvation."

It's likely the name really means "Yahueh (Yahweh) is Salvation," and not just "Yahu is Salvation." Perhaps "Yahu" is used in this name (and many, many other names) instead of "Yahweh" in order to keep Father's Name "Holy", that is, "set- apart" and "unique." However, there is an alternative theory that the Son's name is "Yahu" and that every time "יה" appears in the Hebrew instead of "יהוה", this is to indicate the Son specifically. But I'm not entirely persuaded by the second theory, as this word seems to only appear in poetical texts, and as evidenced in the first post of this thread, the Son is outright called "Yahweh" many times. But because of these two possibilities, I have made distinct "Yahweh" and "Yah" as they appear in the quoted texts below for your consideration.

Psalms 118:

14 Yah [יה] is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.

15 The voice of rejoicing and salvation is in the tabernacles of the righteous: the right hand of Yahweh [יהוה] doeth valiantly.

16 The right hand of Yahweh [יהוה] is exalted: the right hand of Yahweh [יהוה] doeth valiantly.

17 I shall not die, but live, and declare the works of Yah [יה].

18 Yah [יה] hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.

19 Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise Yah [יה]:

20 This gate of Yahweh [יהוה], into which the righteous shall enter.

21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.

22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

23 This is Yahweh's [יהוה's] doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.

I'm rather certain I don't have to quote the many verses in the NT confirming that this is indeed talking about Yahushua Messiah, the only begotten Son. And look, it's not just in Psalms, but even Moses tells us:

Exodus 15:

2 Yah [יה] is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my El [אל], and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's Elohiym [אלהים], and I will exalt him.

3 Yahweh [יהוה] is a man of war: Yahweh [יהוה] is his name.

6 Thy right hand, O Yahweh [יהוה], is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O Yahweh [יהוה], hath dashed in pieces the enemy.

(in the previous chapter):

Exodus 14:

19 And the Angel of Elohiym [אלהים], which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:

24 And it came to pass, that in the morning watch Yahweh [יהוה] looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians,

25 And took off their chariot wheels, that they drave them heavily: so that the Egyptians said, Let us flee from the face of Israel; for Yahweh [יהוה] fighteth for them against the Egyptians.

So Yahweh's Angel in the cloud by day and pillar of fire by night who fought the Egyptians, is His Right Hand, His Son, Yahushua Messiah, and our Salvation. Isaiah makes sure we understand:

Isaiah 12:

2 Behold, El [אל] is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for Yah [יה], Yahweh [יהוה] is my strength and my song; and he has become my salvation.

Thank you for being so kind! There have been others who have spent words viciously attacking the Father's Holy Name, so I very much appreciate your kindness.

Praise יהוה

now faith · Nov 8, 2017

The proper transliteration, of God's name is impossible.
We do our best and He answersour prayer no matter.
Their are many words that are not translated into the second language ,due to it being impossible.

now faith · Nov 8, 2017

For me personally I do not want to call up on God's personal name.
Our Lord did not pray to him this way.
Christ Jesus prayed saying Father.
I would not say hello to our president get Don.
How much greater is our God?

Neal of Zebulun · Nov 8, 2017

now faith said:
The proper transliteration, of God's name is impossible.
We do our best and He answersour prayer no matter.
Their are many words that are not translated into the second language ,due to it being impossible.

Even if impossible for us, I think it's possible for Yahweh. (Matthew 19:26)

And yes, may we do our best, for He sees into our hearts and hears us!

now faith said:
For me personally I do not want to call up on God's personal name.
Our Lord did not pray to him this way.
Christ Jesus prayed saying Father.
I would not say hello to our president get Don.
How much greater is our God?

Have you considered the following passages? The first is from the Old Testament, and the two following it are from the New. The first from the New was spoken out of Peter's mouth, and the second from Paul's, and they are both directly quoting the passage from the OT:

Joel 2:

32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of יהוה shall be delivered..

Acts of the Apostles 2:

21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of יהוה shall be saved.

Romans 10:

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of יהוה shall be saved.

(NOTE: they do not say one "has" to call on the Name of יהוה to be saved, but that whoever does will be.)

I know it's not easy to get the Name perfectly right. But again, even in the OT it was pronounced differently at different times (see bullet 1 in my above post.) However, I do not believe the "untterable or ineffeable name doctrine" or some such non-sense. What pure evil!

John 12:

28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

Matthew 23:

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, "Blessed is he that cometh in the name of יהוה."

Amen, blessed is He that cometh in the Name of Father Yahweh!

(P.S. Do not people say "President Trump?")

SummaScriptura · Nov 13, 2017

If God's name is revealed in the Old Testament to be 'Yahweh" and His Son's name was revealed in the New Testament to be Yeshuah can we expect the name of the Holy Spirit to be revealed in the age to come?

Neal of Zebulun · Nov 13, 2017

SummaScriptura said:
If God's name is revealed in the Old Testament to be 'Yahweh" and His Son's name was revealed in the New Testament to be Yeshuah can we expect the name of the Holy Spirit to be revealed in the age to come?

That's an interesting question. I have some thoughts on it. But not an argument really.

One of my favorite verses in the Bible is the following:

Matthew 28:

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

It's peculiar because it says "name" in the singular. This leads me to suppose that it's a shared name and not three names.

John 14:

6 ..I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1 John 5:

6 ..the Spirit is truth.

John 4:

23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

It's difficult to untangle these three! No small wonder if the Holy Spirit goes by the same Name then.

I think that the Name to baptize with is Yahweh (יהוה), because it can be shown that both the Father and the Son go by that Name, so why not the Holy Spirit likewise?

However the Name of Messiah will do if for some reason the Higher Name is not known during the baptism. This is because "Yahu-shua" contains the Father's Name: "Yahu[eh] is Salvation."

The defective "Yahshua" and "Yahusha" will probably do as well for the same reasoning.

And in the case of "Yeshua," we still have the basic meaning of the Father's Name at least: "He is Salvation."

And with the Greek "Yesous," badly transliterated as it may be, it's still the same basic Name as "Yeshua." I think.

But with any derived name past that, I do not wish to comment.

So to answer your question, I think the Holy Spirit's Name is revealed in the Name of both the Father and Son.

Now I understand there will be those who will wish to argue about all this, but they're going to have to find someone else to argue with! Because these are just my thoughts.

(By the way, did you know it would seem that Matthew called Messiah "Yeshua," but Paul, Luke, and Barnabas called Him "Yahushua?" I think it's because Matthew worked closer to Jerusalem where the pharisees would lock you up for saying the Name Yahweh, even as a part of Christ's Name! Of course Christ didn't care about them, He was glorifying the Name everywhere He went, but I'm sure He sympathized with Matthew in his ministry. Paul couldn't care less though, that man was looking forward to the cross around every bend. I'm rambling again! Goodnight.)

now faith · Nov 14, 2017

SummaScriptura said:
If God's name is revealed in the Old Testament to be 'Yahweh" and His Son's name was revealed in the New Testament to be Yeshuah can we expect the name of the Holy Spirit to be revealed in the age to come?

The book of Enoch is not considered part of the written Word.
Some believe it was written By Enoch who was taken up by God before the flood.
That would seem unlikely, many theologians believe it was written in 3rd century AD.

SummaScriptura · Nov 14, 2017

This thread is not about Enoch.

Edison Trent · Nov 15, 2017

the Brass man,,,

Yeshuah Ben Yahweh

SummaScriptura · Nov 15, 2017

God's proper name is Yahweh, Yahweh always has had a Son with him. His Son became flesh and dwelt among other men. The Son's name is Yeshuah of Nazareth.

Peter said, "By the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well. This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4

Neal of Zebulun · Nov 15, 2017

SummaScriptura said:
God's proper name is Yahweh, Yahweh always has had a Son with him. His Son became flesh and dwelt among other men. The Son's name is Yeshuah of Nazareth.

Peter said, "By the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well. This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4

Excellent quote. I'm still studying about all this, so thank you for sharing!

I'm reminded that Peter, just two chapters previous in Acts of the Apostles 2:16-21, quoted the entirety of Joel 2:28-23.

The key verse Peter quoted is this one:

Joel 2:

32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of Yahweh shall be delivered..

This same verse is not just quoted by Peter, but even Paul in Romans 10:13. Check out the context though, from about Romans 10:9-14. Who is Paul specifically speaking about?

Keep in mind, Yahweh's Name doesn't change: (Exodus 3:15, Psalms 135:13, Malachi 3:6)

Just some thoughts. I'm still studying all this, and I very much enjoy learning the Scriptures!

Neal of Zebulun · Nov 18, 2017

(The first post of this thread is required reading before continuing in this post, so there is no misunderstanding.)

I would like to present evidence that the following verse is to be taken literally:

John 1:

18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

By "God" we mean specifically Father Yahweh, and not the Son Yahweh, as we have already discovered was seen in the Old Testament and the New, before, and after the Resurrection.

But here is a quote from the same Gospel which may seem to contradict the previous verse:

John 14:

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Yahushua saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

I will endeavor to show that the above verse does not contradict the first verse, or the following verses:

John 5:

37 ..the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

He was standing right in front of them. One more:

1 John 4:

12 No man hath seen God at any time..

This is John writing after the events that are described in John 14.

To clear up any confusion, it should be understood that in John 14, Yahushua is referring to Himself as the image of Father Yahweh. This is expressed in the following verses:

Hebrews 1:

3 ..[the Son] being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person..

Numbers 12:

8 ..[Moses] will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of Yahweh shall he behold..

2 Corinthians 4:

6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Yahushua Christ.

Compare that to this verse:

Exodus 33:

20 And he [Yahweh] said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no Adam see me, and live.

Just as a reminder, in the very same chapter we read:

Exodus 33:

11 And Yahweh spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend..

So of course Yahweh the Son was seen face to face in His Angel form, and then of course in His Adamic form later. But Father Yahweh has not been seen by Adam. Only His express image, His similitude has been seen.

That is the meaning of John's verses.

Now with all that in mind, consider how much more meaningful the following verses are:

Revelation 20:

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Revelation 6:

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

Revelation 22:

4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

Revelation 14:

1 ..his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Revelation 22:

5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for Yahweh God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

Revelation 21:

23 ..and the Lamb is the light thereof.

1 Corinthians 13:

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Amen. Thanks for reading, hope it was enlightening!

Praise Yahweh!

Neal of Zebulun · Nov 22, 2017

Neal of Zebulun said:
About Father's Name..let it be known that the Name on occasion appears with different vowel points, probably indicating a different inflection of the Name as relative to what the speaker was saying, in order to emphasize one of its qualities. But usually, it's spelt יְהוָה (which appears to be in the piel voice), and a second is יְהוִה, and a third is יְהֹוָה (if I remember correctly.)

Okay, this is awesome, Isaiah 50 has all three vowel point spellings in an eleven verse chapter! How cool it that? So we can study how and why Isaiah is using different inflections in a short space.

Here are the three vowel point spellings (in order of commonality throughout Scripture):

יְהוָה
יְהוִה
יְהֹוִה

And here's where they're located in the chapter, by verse numbers:

(1,10)
(5,7,9)
(4)

I have a hypothesis. Could it be that the three inflections refer to the Trinity? Maybe someone could look into that.

Praise Yahweh!

Edit: Wow! Way off here! Check out this post!

Servant232 · Nov 22, 2017

Judah

Yahuwdah - Yad Hey Waw Dalet Hey Yahu'dah

YAHUWAH Yad Hey Waw Hey YAHU'AH

YaHWeH

either way - Understanding the meaning of the name matters more than the pronunciation.

Isaiah 12:2
Behold, EL is my YESHUA ; I will trust, and not be afraid: for YAH YHWH is my Strength and my Song; He also is become my YESHUA~(Salvation, Victory).

Psalms 2:12
Kiss the Son/Bar, lest He be angry, and ye perish from the way, when His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him.

~~~~~~~

The First three letters in the Bible

Bet Resh Aleph

Bet - House/Family

Bet~Resh - Bar/Son

Bet~Resh~Aleph - Bera Created

Bet - Bar
Resh - Ruach
Aleph - AB

Next three

Shin - Sharp Press Two

Yad - Arm

Taw - Cross

Shin-Yad spells shay - Gift

Shin Yad Taw spells Shayt - Appointed

House/Family Son Created, sharp pressed two Arm Gift Appointed Cross

Berashyt - In the Beginning, The first word in the Bible

Bet Resh Aleph Shin Yad Taw

YHWH

YHWH - Arm Behold Nail Behold

Ancient Hebrew Alphabet Chart

Declaring the End from the Beginning

In the Beginning was The Word

Revealing Times · Nov 22, 2017

Neal of Zebulun said:
Proverbs 30:

4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is His Name, and what is his Son's Name, if thou canst tell?

The question of what is "His Name" is easily answered. It's "Yahweh" (Hebrew: יהוה).

But the second question is much more difficult to answer in the confines of the Old Testament (which is where it's asked.)

By the Grace of Yahweh Elohiym through His only begotten Son Yahushua Christ, I have gathered a selection of verses to help reveal what Christ's Name in the Old Testament is!:

John 1:

18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Exodus 33:

11 And Yahweh spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend.

What? Is this a contradiction? Hold on, let's read further in the same chapter:

Exodus 33:

20 And he [Yahweh] said [to Moses], Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

23 ..thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

Yup, that's all in the same chapter. So how is this not a contradiction?

Numbers 12:

8 With..[Moses] will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of Yahweh shall he behold..

Hebrews 1:

3 ..[the Son] being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person..

John 14:

9 ..Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father..

Numbers 14:

14 ..thou Yahweh art among this people..thou Yahweh art seen face to face..

Colossians 2:

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Exodus 23:

20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

Hebrews 1:

4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

This is the same Angel of Yahweh that was in the cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night. The Angel has the same Name as Father in heaven, and He is who Moses spoke with face to face, not the Father, but the Son!

Deuteronomy 34:

10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom Yahweh knew face to face,

John 5:

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

Quite literally!

Mark 12:29, Deuteronomy 6:

4 Hear, O Israel: Yahweh our God is One Yahweh:

So if this passage never quite made sense to you before, it should now. This is one of two excellent passages that are referenced in this forum's Statement of Faith under "ONE God."

I believe Deuteronomy 6:4 (which is quoted in Mark 12:29) is the Old Testament's way of saying:

John 10:

30 I and my Father are one.

To learn more about God, I encourage you to read John 10:30-36, and Psalms 82:6, which relate to the topic of the Body of Christ: (1 Corinthians 12, Romans 12)

Praise יהוה!

Anytime you see Salvation (yesuah) in the Old Testament substitute Jesus. It doesn't always fit, but you would be surprised at how many times that is exactly who they were speaking about, Jesus or their Salvation. EXAMPLES BELOW:

Now then, when the angel spoke to Joseph, husband of Mary, the mother of our Lord, this is what he really said and what Joseph actually understood: And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus [YESHUA (SALVATION)]: for he shall save [or salvage] his people from their sins. (Matthew 1:21). This text was so forcibly brought home to my soul soon after I was converted over 24 years ago, that I saw the whole plan of the Old Testament in that one ineffable and blessed NAME.

So let us proceed to show clearly the Hebrew name YESHUA
(Greek = Iesus English = Jesus) in the Old Testament.

When the great Patriarch Jacob was ready to depart from this world, he by the Holy Spirit was blessing his sons and prophetically foretelling their future experiences in those blessings. In verse 18 of Genesis 49 he exclaims, I have waited for thy salvation, 0 Lord! What he really did say and mean was, "To thy YESHUA (Jesus) I am looking, 0 Lord"; or, "In thy YESHUA (Jesus) I am hoping (trusting), Lord!" That makes much better sense.

Of course YESHUA (Jesus) was the One in Whom Jacob was trusting to carry him safely over the chilly waters of the river of death. Jacob was a saved man, and did not wait until his dying moments to start trusting in the Lord. He just reminded God that he was at the same time comforting his own soul.

In Psalms 9:14, David bursts forth, I will rejoice in thy salvation.
What he actually did say and mean was, "I will rejoice in (with) thy YESHUA (Jesus)."

In Psalm 91:14-16 God says, Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high [raise him above circumstances], because he hath known my name. He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him and honor him. With long life [eternal life] will I satisfy him, and show him my [YESHUA (Jesus)] salvation. Of course. That promise is realized in Revelation 22:3, 4: And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it: and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see HIS face.

In Isaiah 12:2, 3 we have something wonderful. Here SALVATION is mentioned three times. The reader will be much blessed by reading these glorious verses in his Bible, but let me give them as they actually read in the original Hebrew with Jesus as the embodiment and personification of the word SALVATION: Behold, might (or, God the mighty One) is my YESHUA (Jesus-in His pre-incarnation and eternal existence); I will trust and not be afraid:, for JAH-JAHOVAH is my strength and my song; He also is become my YESHUA (Jesus).... And the WORD (Jesus incarnate) became flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 1: 14). ... Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of YESHUA [Jesus - waters of salvation flowing forth from Golgotha]."

ewq1938 · Nov 28, 2017

Neal of Zebulun said:
That's an interesting question. I have some thoughts on it. But not an argument really.

One of my favorite verses in the Bible is the following:

Matthew 28:

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

It's peculiar because it says "name" in the singular. This leads me to suppose that it's a shared name and not three names.

It's meant to be read and understood that "name" precedes each one mentioned. It's less writing to write it out fully but what is intended is this:

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and (the name) of the Son, and (the name) of the Holy Ghost:

Name here doesn't have to be a personal name but just a name or term used to speak of any of them.

G3686
ὄνομα
onoma
on'-om-ah
From a presumed derivative of the base of G1097 (compare G3685); a “name” (literally or figuratively), (authority, character): - called, (+ sur-) name (-d).

Neal of Zebulun · Nov 29, 2017

This is amazing!:

Jeremiah 23:

5 Behold, the days come, saith Yahweh [יהוה], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, YAHWEH [יהוה] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS [צדקנו].

Could it be any clearer that the Son's Name is Yahweh?

ViaCrucis · Nov 29, 2017

Sh'ma Yisrael YHVH eloheinu YHVH echad.

The one, true, and living God said to Moses, "I am that I am".

YHVH is the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit--the one God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; the God of Israel.

At the Annunciation the angel Gabriel said, "καὶ καλέσεις τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Ἰησοῦν", "and you shall call His name Jesus". "Jesus" (Ἰησοῦς in Greek, ישוע in Aramaic) is the name of the Incarnate Son and Word.

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