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AV1611VET · Oct 17, 2017

Strathos said:
Endogenous retroviral insertion points

1 Chronicles 26:18 At Parbar westward, four at the causeway, and two at Parbar.

HitchSlap · Oct 17, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Is Mr. Hovind wrong?

As always.

AV1611VET said:
If he is, what plant are we closest to?

I have no idea.

AV1611VET · Oct 17, 2017

HitchSlap said:
As always.

Sounds like an automatic response to me.

Isn't that called "conditioning"?

HitchSlap said:
I have no idea.

You just know it's not tobacco ... right?

Maybe it's poision ivy?

HitchSlap · Oct 17, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Sounds like an automatic response to me.

Isn't that called "conditioning"?

Yes, Hovind's blatant lies and distortions are accepted by those conditioned to believe anything.

AV1611VET said:
You just know it's not tobacco ... right?

Wasn't your original claim that Hovind states humans are closer to tobacco plants than other primates?

AV1611VET said:
Maybe it's poision ivy?

Maybe it's soylent green.

Kylie · Oct 17, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Hi there!

Okay, so God creates apes in Genesis 1, all having the same DNA.

Then, when He creates man, He creates man with almost the same DNA, but a percentage (2%?) of it is different.

After all, His goal is to create man in His image & likeness.

Show how this is deceptive.

If he created humans so that a comparison of them with all other forms of life on this planet indicates a shared ancestry with them via an evolutionary process, then it is deceptive because God is making it look like one thing happened when that thing did not actually happen.

Kylie · Oct 17, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Brass (copper & zinc) and bronze (copper & tin) are also two completely differently metals; but you don't see metallurgists saying one comes from the other.

Well no, because metals don't produce offspring, for a start...

Really, what is your point? That you don't understand biology?

Kylie · Oct 17, 2017

Dave-W said:
Not really. Whales and hippos are both mammals, breathe air and nurse their young. Sharks breathe water and do not nurse.

So why would you want to make an aquatic animal that lives its whole life in the water, and yet you don't give it the water-breathing ability that you developed for the sharks?

Kylie · Oct 17, 2017

AV1611VET said:
I think it's obvious that we are not the same as apes.

For one thing, they have more hair on them.

Except you are wrong.

"Per square centimetre, human skin has as many hair follicles as that of other great apes."

The not-so-naked ape

VirOptimus · Oct 18, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Hi there!

Okay, so God creates apes in Genesis 1, all having the same DNA.

Then, when He creates man, He creates man with almost the same DNA, but a percentage (2%?) of it is different.

After all, His goal is to create man in His image & likeness.

Show how this is deceptive.

Your whole premise is stupid.

Also, human are apes.

xianghua · Oct 18, 2017

AV1611VET said:
If I remember Kent Hovind correctly, he says we're closer to a tobacco plant more than anything.

Is that true?

i think he was joking since both tobacco and apes shared 48 chromosomes (although with a different contents). so according to the common similarity logic we need to coclude that apes and tobacco are colser to each other then apes and humans. check this list:

List of organisms by chromosome count - Wikipedia

Strathos · Oct 18, 2017

AV1611VET said:
1 Chronicles 26:18 At Parbar westward, four at the causeway, and two at Parbar.

Hebrews 6:14 said:
Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.

DogmaHunter · Oct 18, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Hi there!

Okay, so God creates apes in Genesis 1, all having the same DNA.

Then, when He creates man, He creates man with almost the same DNA, but a percentage (2%?) of it is different.

After all, His goal is to create man in His image & likeness.

Show how this is deceptive.

He decided to construct both in such a way that everything about it looks like and is consistent with biological common ancestry.

Including sections of the DNA that aren't even active or the result of infections.
It's like giving a thing a scar to make it look as if it was in some accident a year before it even existed.

I don't know what else to call that, if not "deceptive".

DogmaHunter · Oct 18, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Brass (copper & zinc) and bronze (copper & tin) are also two completely differently metals; but you don't see metallurgists saying one comes from the other.

Why would they? They don't reproduce genetically while competing for limited resources.

DogmaHunter · Oct 18, 2017

Hieronymus said:
Speak for yourself.

So do you also have emotional issues with the fact that we are also mammals and tetrapods?

Or is it just the word "ape" that makes you go ape?

DogmaHunter · Oct 18, 2017

AV1611VET said:
If I remember Kent Hovind correctly, he says we're closer to a tobacco plant more than anything.

Is that true?

In the case of Kent Hovind, that might indeed be true.

DogmaHunter · Oct 18, 2017

xianghua said:
i think he was joking since both tobacco and apes shared 48 chromosomes (although with a different contents). so according to the common similarity logic we need to coclude that apes and tobacco are colser to each other then apes and humans. check this list:

List of organisms by chromosome count - Wikipedia

So, do you have to make extra effort to say such bizar and ignorant things, or does it come naturally to you?

Divide · Oct 18, 2017

Kylie said:
If he created humans so that a comparison of them with all other forms of life on this planet indicates a shared ancestry with them via an evolutionary process, then it is deceptive because God is making it look like one thing happened when that thing did not actually happen.

Well...almost. God is not the author of confusion. It is man trying to hide God, which is trying to make one thing look like another.
In fact, not man per session, but evil spirits lying and confusing man.
The is a real spiritual war going on. It's mostly unseen. If they openly showed themselves, there would be great revival for it would prove the spiritual realm and God.

Divide · Oct 18, 2017

Where in scripture is it? I can't find it...the great apes being created in the image and likeness of God?
Or Adam being taken out of an ape?

Bwahahahahahahaaaa. We are not apes Brothers and Sisters! Maybe some are lol but not me!

Divide · Oct 18, 2017

Kylie said:
Except you are wrong.

"Per square centimetre, human skin has as many hair follicles as that of other great apes."

The not-so-naked ape

You're right. I love it when girls are right.

We're still not apes though, their hair is just thicker and longer.

AirPo · Oct 18, 2017

HitchSlap said:
Yes, Hovind's blatant lies and distortions are accepted by those conditioned to believe anything.

Wasn't your original claim that Hovind states humans are closer to tobacco plants than other primates?

Maybe it's soylent green.

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