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lamb7 · Jul 19, 2017

Where is the option to edit post I just see title and tags to edit.

PhantomGaze · Jul 19, 2017

lamb7 said:
Ever since remembering I said this recently I have been depressed ever since and questioning my salvation daily.Its bewn 2 months with thia. My medication increase in citalopram has helped but it is still there.

Do you really think God... who is omniscient, and understands everything is not going to understand your confusion? And don't you think that he knows you weren't trying to blaspheme the spirit? You know he knows that right? So wouldn't it make sense that he's not holding anything against you? You have to give the guy more credit.

DeerGlow · Jul 19, 2017

lamb7 said:
Where is the option to edit post I just see title and tags to edit.

Look for this in your posts.

lamb7 · Jul 19, 2017

PhantomGaze said:
Do you really think God... who is omniscient, and understands everything is not going to understand your confusion? And don't you think that he knows you weren't trying to blaspheme the spirit? You know he knows that right? So wouldn't it make sense that he's not holding anything against you? You have to give the guy more credit.

II do think so but fear gets in the way and that verse of no forgivness haunts me as I relate it to myself.

lamb7 · Jul 19, 2017

ByTheSpirit said:
I wasn't worried about that from you, but I know some around here can be a bit hasty with their words.

I am praying for you

Thank you! I need it. I edited my post too sp hope that limits bashing

PhantomGaze · Jul 19, 2017

lamb7 said:
II do think so but fear gets in the way and that verse of no forgivness haunts me as I relate it to myself.

If you had committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, and it were truly unforgivable, you would be given over to a depraved mind, and wouldn't care that you had done so. Psalm 81:12. Romans 1:24. The fact that the idea bothers you is proof enough that you haven't really done anything.

lamb7 · Jul 19, 2017

JESUS=G.O.A.T said:
I don't know much about the pentecostals of God and i'm sorry for your experience.

I spoke in tounques speaking in another language at an LWAF convention we went to I couldn't control it or anything and I didn't ask for it, I just prayed for The HOly Ghost and I received it that way. What's ironic is I used to hate on God or critique him every day until 2 weeks before that experience when I repented and I said God...if this HOly Ghost is real and if this speaking in tounques experience is a real experience, I want to get the HOly Ghost and I want to experience that. I want power like that and I want to be a part of that, I don't love you as much as I can but I want to love you and if you show me yourself I"ll begin to love you. And that's what happened for me.

I pray in tounques now as well and my life has been changed, I preach and i'm a musician for a church now as well.

And to answer your question the way you know a christian is saved is by the Fruit of the Spirit and spiritual discernment. If you don't yet have spiritual discernment then just by the fruit, how a person behaves and how they are just as an individual says a lot about if they are truly saved and this applies with anyone of any church anywhere.

If you have any questions I can answer, although i'm not a part of the POG I am have experienced speaking in tounques and I believe in it so I may be able to help you out.

I worry this may turn into a tounque talking bashing thread though...usually happens...and again i'm not here to debate with a bunch of people, i'm just here to help you out. I competed in debate for years... I don't mind a debate...but I prefer not to debate if I can avoid it and my focus here is reaching you and helping you out.

Thank you for ypur response! I did edit this post down. I dont wanna cause a debate ♡

Mari17 · Jul 20, 2017

lamb7 said:
II do think so but fear gets in the way and that verse of no forgivness haunts me as I relate it to myself.

Bingo! That's EXACTLY what OCD does. I liked PhantomGaze's comment about giving more credit to God. That's the big lesson that we OCDers need to learn, but it's excruciatingly hard to put into practice. How do you "fight" against what seems to be your own conscience? It feels like you're fighting against God, almost. BTW, I read your original post and your fear definitely sounds like OCD. In that case, I would treat it as though it is OCD. Ignore it, use ERP, whatever you need to do. It's just a different take on a very common obsession. Keep reaching out for help as needed!

lamb7 · Jul 20, 2017

Thank you

Mari17 said:
Bingo! That's EXACTLY what OCD does. I liked PhantomGaze's comment about giving more credit to God. That's the big lesson that we OCDers need to learn, but it's excruciatingly hard to put into practice. How do you "fight" against what seems to be your own conscience? It feels like you're fighting against God, almost. BTW, I read your original post and your fear definitely sounds like OCD. In that case, I would treat it as though it is OCD. Ignore it, use ERP, whatever you need to do. It's just a different take on a very common obsession. Keep reaching out for help as needed!

Thank you for that I am happy tp hear it sounds OCD, I have never talked to anyone with OCD so it's tough. You are right a diff take on that topic of obsession. I had so much trouble finding info on that there are some with OCD that had the same thing. I plan to repost but not as lengthy and to the point, I just dont want the topic to offend anyone or start denominational debate wars. will re post in case anyone else is struggling with this same theme as me. I would love it to help someone. I have never been so bad since my first onset which was 8 years ago. I am now on ambilify too low dose. It helps. I am scared of ERP pr CBT I try to do it myself but then I cant function. Trying to learn to say its just OCD, I am saved....etc.

Mari17 · Jul 20, 2017

Yes, I don't think you always have to do full-on ERP - I'm no expert, it's just my opinion that everybody is different, and so everybody needs something different. I'm still trying to figure out the best ways to attack my obsessions! Here are a couple of resources I've found really helpful - and they both address OCD from a Christian perspective:
http://ocdandchristianity.com/
Welcome

lamb7 · Jul 28, 2017

ByTheSpirit said:
I wasn't worried about that from you, but I know some around here can be a bit hasty with their words.

I am praying for you

Oh man, being hasty with words is not ok, we are to be gentle, we are human, I know there is so much controversy (Ugh) but we can all agree Jesus is Lord need we say more ♥

lamb7 · Jul 28, 2017

Mari17 said:
Yes, I don't think you always have to do full-on ERP - I'm no expert, it's just my opinion that everybody is different, and so everybody needs something different. I'm still trying to figure out the best ways to attack my obsessions! Here are a couple of resources I've found really helpful - and they both address OCD from a Christian perspective:
http://ocdandchristianity.com/
Welcome

Just knowing myself the ERP of saying sure I am going to Hell for that is just too much (since ERP is exposing your fears, sure that works for the non eternal ones for sure. Just my thought on it.

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