Lotus position in prayer?

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yes, unfortunately, yoga has had (not) a (little) influence on the modern world of religion including modern christianity - it is like a fire and pandemic contagion, and more worrying is the fact that the world situation in the time of Noah before the "flood" was the same - all humankind had been converted to yoga, occultism, idolatry such as hinduism, etc., which was the reason (why) God destroyed that ancient world of human religion/spirituality

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I personally believe we need to stop wrapping up the message of Christ to encourage more followers. Let's pray like Jesus is before us, risen from the cross and he is looking into the eyes of sinners. He may look upon us kindly for we are his fallen sheep, but shall we dare glance upon his face? I'm not going to risk it, I'm a nobody a faceless mask of sin and selfishness, but I'm also a father and to give my children a chance of receiving the message of Christ which I believe is almost upon us, then let me not see Christs face unless he deems me worthy.
What if we were to awaken from prayer and christs face was upon us, what if you was unworthy? I really don't want Christ to look at me if I'm unworthy as I know that I would feel shame and hurt looking upon his perfection. This is why I pray with my forehead to the floor. I also like to rock in a Holy fashion.Why should we pray for Christs coming if he is coming our way in judgement, haven't the Christians sacrificed enough blood in his name, let the lord almighty does his work and let the followers of Christ receive his message.
Christs message is one of hope not judgement let us rejoice that we don't have to look upon his face on the last days.
I believe there is going to be a birth of a Christian nation born from the message of Christ. I pray to the Lord with so much hope I dare hardly think it! Let all the wretched souls upon this world be free of their chains.

Sorry about the constant edits my schooling was fairly good my laziness was better, I'm not brilliant with grammar.
 
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I personally believe we need to stop wrapping up the message of Christ to encourage more followers. Let's pray like Jesus is before us, risen from the cross and he is looking into the eyes of sinners. He may look upon us kindly for we are his fallen sheep, but shall we dare glance upon his face? I'm not going to risk it, I'm a nobody a faceless mask of sin and selfishness, but I'm also a father and to give my children a chance of receiving the message of Christ which I believe is almost upon us, then let me not see Christs face unless he deems me worthy.
What if we were to awaken from prayer and christs face was upon us, what if you was unworthy? I really don't want Christ to look at me if I'm unworthy as I know that I would feel shame and hurt looking upon his perfection. This is why I pray with my forehead to the floor. I also like to rock in a Holy fashion.Why should we pray for Christs coming if he is coming our way in judgement, haven't the Christians sacrificed enough blood in his name, let the lord almighty does his work and let the followers of Christ receive his message.
Christs message is one of hope not judgement let us rejoice that we don't have to look upon his face on the last days.
I believe there is going to be a birth of a Christian nation born from the message of Christ. I pray to the Lord with so much hope I dare hardly think it! Let all the wretched souls upon this world be free of their chains.

Sorry about the constant edits my schooling was fairly good my laziness was better, I'm not brilliant with grammar.

may there be better organization at least in christianity, there is a need at least of more people to truly preach the Gospel of the true God, because the world has gone wrong with many religions for so many centuries, and the situation became and becomes more and more critical as in the days(years) before the "flood" about 5 millennia ago, Jesus, the Lord, Himself also warned about it (Matthew 24:37-44)

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may there be better organization at least in christianity, there is a need at least of more people to truly preach the Gospel of the true God, because the world has gone wrong with many religions for so many centuries, and the situation became and becomes more and more critical as in the days(years) before the "flood" about 5 millennia ago, Jesus, the Lord, Himself also warned about it (Matthew 24:37-44)

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I personally believe that in my own nation the common man has suffered enough preaching to last him until eternity. The Church of England preached hatred of Catholics for over four hundred years. Thousands of souls were killed in the name of Christ our Lord. It's only recently that I have started to believe the message of hope is literally on our doorstep. I can see the preaching of hatred clearly now I've found my history, let's give out messages of hope. The people of the land are tired of being lied to and have the sins of haunted souls upon their backs. Let all our messages be ones of hope. No more sacrifice please Lord I beg of you.
 
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Does it matter what position we are in when we pray?
What is the christian way to pray?

i am asking this because in prayer time at school I notice some children assume the lotus position, I asked our bible teacher and she says it doesnt matter, but I find it a bit disturbing because its associated with new age and hinduism. The way she does it is to ask the children to bow their heads and close their eyes. And put their hands together so they dont fidget. Then she prays and the children repeat the prayer after her.

What about the stipulation in corinthians that women cover their heads and men dont? Are the men men to lift up their hands? Would appreciate some biblical advice.

I know muslims kneel and touch their heads to the floor they have prayer rugs, and need to face to Mecca. None of the children do that, but I imagine if some came from a muslim background they would.
Clutching their hands in prayer positioned at heart level, sitting crosslegged is the lotus position afaik. I think positions are not indicative of the attention God does or does not give to prayer. The only thing that the NT specifies that gets prayers ignored is husbands lack of love to wives.
 
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Clutching their hands in prayer positioned at heart level, sitting crosslegged is the lotus position afaik. I think positions are not indicative of the attention God does or does not give to prayer. The only thing that the NT specifies that gets prayers ignored is husbands lack of love to wives.
Let each man decide how to pray then, it's their lives they are playing with, but what of the children taught such habits?
 
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Let each man decide how to pray then, it's their lives they are playing with, but what of the children taught such habits?
I'm not seeing where the op says anything but the children holding their hands in a prayer position while bowing their heads. That's how the school's did it too back when there was prayer in school. So I don't understand the question.
 
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I'm not seeing where the op says anything but the children holding their hands in a prayer position while bowing their heads. That's how the school's did it too back when there was prayer in school. So I don't understand the question.
I we befuddled between us? Are we not speaking of the Lotus prayer position and how unholy it is?
 
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I we befuddled between us? Are we not speaking of the Lotus prayer position and how unholy it is?
That would be the op's assumption but it seems more information is needed than
The way she does it is to ask the children to bow their heads and close their eyes.And put their hands together so they dont fidget.
 
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I personally believe that in my own nation the common man has suffered enough preaching to last him until eternity. The Church of England preached hatred of Catholics for over four hundred years. Thousands of souls were killed in the name of Christ our Lord. It's only recently that I have started to believe the message of hope is literally on our doorstep. I can see the preaching of hatred clearly now I've found my history, let's give out messages of hope. The people of the land are tired of being lied to and have the sins of haunted souls upon their backs. Let all our messages be ones of hope. No more sacrifice please Lord I beg of you.

who/what kills the idolatrous/heretical/unrighteous worshipers?! - the true Saints are not murderers, but this doesn't mean spiritual people/servants of (the) unrighteousness have the right to abuse Their mercy, hope and patience, there has been a struggle between the "Light" and the "darkness" since the beginning of the eternity, in which God tries to free the souls from the bondage of the "darkness", so every idol or misbelief(heresy) found in worshipers can easily turn out to be a sign of holding on to the "darkness" instead of the true "Light" - as it is said:

John 3:17-19 "God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

the irreligious and non-occult people don't believe in another god's/lord's name, because they are not religious and occult at all - for a man must go in for some spiritual/religious activity so as to believe in some god's/lord's name, so they by nature don't commit spiritual unrighteousness/wickedness/lawlessness (Romans 2:14-15), but the spiritual people/servants of (the) unrighteousness have done, so how to prevent the "darkness" from possessing them if they don't even stop serving it?!, that is why there is talk of repentance throughout the Bible, because it is first of all repentance from spiritual unrighteousness/wickedness/lawlessness, for it is the original sin, the very sin as well as the cause of all other evils and iniquities

Romans 3:19 "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law(i.e. first of all to those who are spiritual/religious/occult): that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world(i.e. first of all the world of human(666) spirituality/religiosity) may become guilty before God."

in principle, it doesn't pay to cause harm/suffering to out neighbor, that is why, at least as far as i can speak about myself, i am personally not a murderer, but this may not considerably change anything if the spiritual/religious law-breakers don't repent of their spiritual iniquities, because not only do they threaten all humankind, but especially they are in great danger, at least until the "darkness" can still use the heresies, with which they get involved, in order to enter into, settle down in and bring death to the world

Romans 5:12-14 "by one man(also: through the generation of the unrighteous spiritual workers/servants) sin(i.e. the devil as well as the system of (the) spiritual unrighteousness/wickedness, a.k.a. the kingdom of the wicked one) entered into the world, and death(i.e. and the (spirit of) deterioration) by sin; and so death passed upon all men(i.e. and so deterioration affected many humans), for that all have sinned(i.e. because many were seized by the system of (the) spiritual unrighteousness/wickedness, some of them as its servants, others as its victims): For until the law sin was in the world(i.e. because the "darkness" was in the universe even until the nascence of the human spirituality/religiosity): but sin is not imputed when there is no law(i.e. but there is no sin where there is no spiritual unrighteousness/wickedness). Nevertheless death(i.e. the deterioration) reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression(i.e. even over people that had not committed spiritual lawlessness/wickedness)"

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I would never pray in a lotus position i am careful,not to so when I see some children attempting its just obvious they arent really getting what prayer is all about.

As Im not teaching them anymore I still pray for those who remain in darkness that God reveals Himself to them. I do think they just see other adults or relatives doing it and get the wrong idea. With yoga and eastern meditation so popular among the trendy crowd these days theres bound to be confusion on what prayer is.
 
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who/what kills the idolatrous/heretical/unrighteous worshipers?! - the true Saints are not murderers, but this doesn't mean spiritual people/servants of (the) unrighteousness have the right to abuse Their mercy, hope and patience, there has been a struggle between the "Light" and the "darkness" since the beginning of the eternity, in which God tries to free the souls from the bondage of the "darkness", so every idol or misbelief(heresy) found in worshipers can easily turn out to be a sign of holding on to the "darkness" instead of the true "Light" - as it is said:

John 3:17-19 "God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

the irreligious and non-occult people don't believe in another god's/lord's name, because they are not religious and occult at all - for a man must go in for some spiritual/religious activity so as to believe in some god's/lord's name, so they by nature don't commit spiritual unrighteousness/wickedness/lawlessness (Romans 2:14-15), but the spiritual people/servants of (the) unrighteousness have done, so how to prevent the "darkness" from possessing them if they don't even stop serving it?!, that is why there is talk of repentance throughout the Bible, because it is first of all repentance from spiritual unrighteousness/wickedness/lawlessness, for it is the original sin, the very sin as well as the cause of all other evils and iniquities

Romans 3:19 "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law(i.e. first of all to those who are spiritual/religious/occult): that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world(i.e. first of all the world of human(666) spirituality/religiosity) may become guilty before God."

in principle, it doesn't pay to cause harm/suffering to out neighbor, that is why, at least as far as i can speak about myself, i am personally not a murderer, but this may not considerably change anything if the spiritual/religious law-breakers don't repent of their spiritual iniquities, because not only do they threaten all humankind, but especially they are in great danger, at least until the "darkness" can still use the heresies, with which they get involved, in order to enter into, settle down in and bring death to the world

Romans 5:12-14 "by one man(also: through the generation of the unrighteous spiritual workers/servants) sin(i.e. the devil as well as the system of (the) spiritual unrighteousness/wickedness, a.k.a. the kingdom of the wicked one) entered into the world, and death(i.e. and the (spirit of) deterioration) by sin; and so death passed upon all men(i.e. and so deterioration affected many humans), for that all have sinned(i.e. because many were seized by the system of (the) spiritual unrighteousness/wickedness, some of them as its servants, others as its victims): For until the law sin was in the world(i.e. because the "darkness" was in the universe even until the nascence of the human spirituality/religiosity): but sin is not imputed when there is no law(i.e. but there is no sin where there is no spiritual unrighteousness/wickedness). Nevertheless death(i.e. the deterioration) reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression(i.e. even over people that had not committed spiritual lawlessness/wickedness)"

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The worshippers only worship what they've learnt from there teachers, should the church consider its values
 
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Does it matter what position we are in when we pray?
What is the christian way to pray?

i am asking this because in prayer time at school I notice some children assume the lotus position, I asked our bible teacher and she says it doesnt matter, but I find it a bit disturbing because its associated with new age and hinduism. The way she does it is to ask the children to bow their heads and close their eyes. And put their hands together so they dont fidget. Then she prays and the children repeat the prayer after her.
I grew up with "every head bowed and every eye closed...;" but there is no scriptural stipulation for that. Indeed the only positional instruction we are given is this:

1 Timothy 2:8 Therefore I want the men in every place to pray, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and dissension.

Indeed, the central prayer in Jewish synagogues (which Our Lord attended faithfully) is the Amidah (standing) prayer. It was 18 (or 19) paragraphs long. Other prayers and blessings were/are also recited standing. That is the historical precedent.
 
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The Jews before Christ clasped their hands.
Not really. Some times hands were raised. Some prayers (for repentance) had them striking their chest with a fist. I have never seen anything from the 2nd temple period saying hands were clasped.

Anyway - with that history, we have no scripture or history to suggest a lotus position was ever used by God's people. However there are many OT commands to not use the religious practices of the pagans who surrounded ancient Israel. I would think praying in the lotus position would fall into that prohibition.
 
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In the bible it seems people knelt
Sometimes. Usually only at certain times and conditions.

Even the high point of the Amidah, the third paragraph which starts out: "Kadosh kadosh kadosh, Adonai Tsevaot..." [Holy holy holy is the Lord of hosts ....] the worshipers did not kneel down but instead went up 3 times on tip toes to try to lift up to heaven.
 
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The worshippers only worship what they've learnt from there teachers, should the church consider its values

the fact that worshipers follow teachers will not excuse them if they commit spiritual wickedness - in such case they should find their mistakes and repent of their iniquities regardless of whether their teachers agree with their intentions/actions or not - every worshiper is responsible before God - for example if you have had a teacher and they have taught you to kill people, then will this excuse you before the authorities if they catch you committing murder?!

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