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Christians Discriminated Against by Israel



By Donald Neff

Former Israel Bureau Chief for Time Magazine
Excerpted from Fifty Years of Israel

On Dec. 29, 1977, Christians in Israel and the occupied territories protested a new law passed by the Israeli parliament making it illegal for missionaries to proselytize Jews. Protestant churches charged that the law had been “hastily pushed through parliament during the Christmas period when Christians were busily engaged in preparing for and celebrating their major festival.” The law made missionaries liable to five years’ imprisonment for attempting to persuade people to change their religion, and three years’ imprisonment for any Jew who converted. The United Christian Council complained that the law could be “misused in restricting religious freedom in Israel.”

Donald Neff has been a journalist for forty years. He spent 16 years in service for Time Magazine and is a regular contributor to Middle East International and the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. He is the author of five excellent books on the Middle East.


Nonetheless, it came into force on April 1, 1978, prohibiting the offering of “material inducement” for a person to change his religion. A material inducement could be something as minor as the giving of a Bible. Although the Likud government of Menachem Begin assured the Christian community that the law applied equally to all religions and did not specifically mention Christians, the United Christian Council of Israel charged that it was biased and aimed specifically at Christians since only Christians openly proselytized. Council representatives also cited anti-Christian speeches made in the parliament during debate on the law. Parliament member Binyamin Halevy had called missionaries “a cancer in the body of the nation.”


The next year Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef, considered a political moderate, issued a religious ruling that copies of the New Testament should be torn out of any edition of a Bible owned by a Jew. Israeli scholar Yehoshafat Harkabi wrote that he was disturbed by “these manifestations of hostility-the designation of Christians as idolaters, the demand to invoke the ‘resident alien’ ordinances, and the burning of the New Testament.” Observed Harkabi: “Outside of the Land of Israel Jews never dared behave in this fashion. Has independence made the Jews take leave of their senses?”

Desecration of Christian property and churches—arson, window breaking, burning of the New Testament—had long marred relations between the two communities. A small but fanatical group of Jews wanted no Christians, whom they considered fallen Jews, in Israel. This virulent strain of prejudice had been present since before the Jewish state was founded.


For instance, after the capture by Jewish forces of Jaffa on May 13, 1948, two days before Israel’s birth, there was desecration of Christian churches. Father Deleque, a Catholic priest, reported: “Jewish soldiers broke down the doors of my church and robbed many precious and sacred objects. Then they threw the statues of Christ down into a nearby garden.” He added that Jewish leaders had reassured that religious buildings would be respected, “but their deeds do not correspond to their words.”

On May 31, 1948, a group of Christian leaders comprising the Christian Union of Palestine publicly complained that Jewish forces had used 10 Christian churches and humanitarian institutions in Jerusalem as military bases and otherwise desecrated them. They added that a total of 14 churches had suffered shell damage, which killed three priests and made casualties of more than 100 women and children.


The group’s statement said Arab forces had abided by their promise to respect Christian institutions, but that the Jews had forcefully occupied Christian structures and been indiscriminate in shelling churches. It said, among other charges, that “many children were killed or wounded” by Jewish shells on the Convent of Orthodox Copts on May 19, 23 and 24; that eight refugees were killed and about 120 wounded at the Orthodox Armenian Convent at some unstated date; and that Father Pierre Somi, secretary to the Bishop, had been killed and two wounded at the Orthodox Syrian Church of St. Mark on May 16.


Churches were again desecrated during the 1967 war when Israel captured East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza, completing the occupation of all of Palestine. On July 21, 1967, the Reverend James L. Kelso, a former moderator of the United Presbyterian Church and long-time resident in Palestine, complained of extensive damage to churches adding: “So significant was this third Jewish war against the Arabs that one of the finest missionaries of the Near East called it ‘perhaps the most serious setback that Christendom has had since the fall of Constantinople in 1453.’”

Kelso continued: “How did Israel respect church property in the fighting...? They shot up the Episcopal Cathedral [in Jerusalem], just as they had done in 1948. They smashed down the Episcopal school for boys...The Israelis wrecked and looted the YMCA...They wrecked the big Lutheran hospital...The Lutheran center for cripples also suffered...”


Nancy Nolan, wife of a physician at the American University Hospital in Beirut, who was in Jerusalem during and after the fighting, charged that “while the Israeli authorities proclaim to the world that all religions will be respected and protected, and post notices identifying the Holy Places, Israeli soldiers and youths are throwing stink bombs in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher.


“The Church of St. Anne, who crypt marks the birthplace of the Virgin Mary, has been severely damaged and the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem also was damaged. The wanton killing of the Warden of the Garden Tomb followed by the shooting into the tomb itself, in an attempt to kill the warden’s wife, was another instance that we knew first-hand which illustrated the utter disregard shown by the occupation forces toward the Holy Places and the religious sensibilities of the people in Jordan and in the rest of the world.”


“The desecration of churches...includes smoking in the churches, littering the churches, taking dogs inside and entering in inappropriate manner of dress. Behavior such as this cannot be construed other than as a direct insult to the whole Christian world.”


Desecration has occurred not only in times of war. As recently as 1995, an Israeli soldier, Daniel Koren, 22, entered St. Anthony Catholic Church in Jaffa and went on a shooting rampage, firing more than 100 bullets in the altar and the cross above it but causing no injuries. Koren said his Judaic convictions forced him to destroy all physical images of God, and admitted that he had staged a prior attack in Jerusalem’s Gethsemane Church.

Perhaps the worst outbreak of organized desecration of Christian institutions came on Sept. 10, 1963, when hundreds of ultra-orthodox Jews simultaneously attacked Christian missions in Jaffa, Haifa and Jerusalem. (One has to say “perhaps because reporting on this sensitive subject in the U.S. media has been so poor over the decades.) At any rate, the attacks were a concerted effort to intimidate Christians in Israel by a religious vigilante group called Hever Peelei Hamahane Hatorati, the Society of Activists of the Torah Camp. In an attack on the Church of Scotland school in Jaffa, Christian children were beaten and considerable damage was caused to the school by at least 200 rampaging Jews.


Other attacks occurred at two nearby church schools, the Greek Catholic missionary school of St. Joseph and a Christian Brothers school. In Jerusalem, attacks occurred at the St. Joseph convent and the Finnish Lutheran mission school. In Haifa, the American-European Beth El Messianic Mission Children’s Hostel and School was attacked. No serious damage occurred in any of the attacks except at the Scotland school. More than 100 Jews were convicted in the attacks, none of them receiving more than small fines and suspended sentences.


The first half of the 1980s, with Likud governments in control, was a particularly active period for Jewish bigots. On Oct. 8, 1982, the Baptist Church in Jerusalem was burned down. Kerosene had been sprinkled on the church’s wooden chapel, constructed in 1933. Although no one was ever charged in the arson, the Baptist Center’s bookstore had been vandalized a dozen times in previous years, and Jews were suspected. When the Baptists sought to rebuild the church, Jews demonstrated against the project and the Jewish district planning commission refused to grant a building permit. In 1985, the Israeli Supreme Court advised the Baptists to leave the all-Jewish area.


On Christmas Day in 1983, a hotel in Tiberias where Christians held meetings was set afire, the latest in a series of attacks on a small group of about 50 Christians. Two Jews were arrested in the arson incident. Other attacks included stones thrown through windows at the hotel while the group was meeting and break-ins at the homes of members of the group. The anti-missionary group Yad Le’Achim complained that Christian missionaries were offering money, clothes, jewelry and tennis shoes to listen to Christian lectures.


Just over a fortnight later, on Jan. 11, 1984, suspected Jewish extremists stacked hymnals on a piano in a Christian prayer room in Jerusalem and set them afire. Also in the same week angry Jews protesting Christian proselytizing caused Beth Shalom, a Christian evangelical group, to withdraw its plans to build a multimillion-dollar hotel in Jerusalem. Beth Shalom took its action after about 150 Jews showed up at a city council meeting with placards reading “You can’t buy me” and “I didn’t immigrate to live next door to missionaries.” A leader of the protest, Rabbi Moshe Berlinger, compared Christian missionaries to Trojan horses.


Jewish infringements on Christian rights became so bad by 1990 that on Dec. 20 the leaders of Christian churches in Jerusalem took the extraordinary decision to restrict Christmas celebrations to protest “the continuing sad state of affairs in our land,” including encroachment by Israel on traditional Christian institutions. Among concerns expressed by the patriarchs and heads of churches were attempts by Jewish settlers to move into the Old City and an “erosion of the traditional rights and centuries-old privileges of the churches,” including imposition by Israel of municipal and state taxes on the churches.


The statement added: “We express our deep concern over new problems confronting the local church. They interfere with the proper functioning of our religious institutions, and we call upon the civil authorities in the country to safeguard our historic rights and status honored by all governments.”


Anti-Christian prejudice helps account for the fact that the number of Christian Palestinians in all of former Palestine had dwindled to only 50,000 in 1995. They no longer were a major presence in either Jerusalem or Ramallah, and they were fast losing their majority status in Bethlehem.

When Israel was established in 1948, the Palestinian Christian community had numbered 200,000, compared to roughly 600,000 Jews in Palestine at the time. Now the Christians are not even one percent of the population of Israel/Palestine. Of today’s estimated total 400,000 Christian Palestinians, most now are living in their own diaspora, mainly in the Americas.


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Proselytizing is legal in the country and missionaries of all religious groups are allowed to proselytize all citizens; however, a 1977 law prohibits any person from offering material benefits as an inducement to conversion. It was also illegal to convert persons under 18 years of age unless one parent were an adherent of the religious group seeking to convert the minor. Despite the legality of proselytism, the government has taken a number of steps that encouraged the perception that proselytizing is against government policy. For example, the MOI has detained individuals suspected of being “missionaries,” and required of such persons bail and a pledge to abstain from missionary activity, in addition to refusing them entry into the country. It maintained denunciations of such activity from antimissionary groups like Yad L'Achim in its border control databases. The MOI has also cited proselytism as a reason to deny student, work, and religious visa extensions, as well as to deny permanent residency petitions. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) promised the Knesset in 1986 to refrain from all proselytism voluntarily in conjunction with receiving a building permit for its Jerusalem Center following protests from the Orthodox community.


Some ultra-Orthodox groups that proselytize secular Jews, encouraging them to adopt ultra-Orthodox practices and beliefs, enjoyed government funding. The Ministry of Education funded a special network of schools aimed at promoting Orthodox Judaism to non-Orthodox Jewish children, and funded other organizations that hold similarly motivated activities.


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Ambassador Oren Thanks Christians for Supporting Israel

Israeli envoy Oren thanked 300 Christian leaders for backing the Jewish State. He later said that the issue of Messianics is "very sensitive."
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Michael Oren, Israeli Ambassador to the United States, thanked 300 pastors and Christian leaders for supporting Israel but noted Israeli "sensitivity" to Messianics. His audience gave him a warm welcome, in contrast to the raucous anti-Zionist reception at the University of California's Irvine campus. University police last week arrested a dozen protesters who at one point prevented Oren from speaking for 20 minutes.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Oren said he came to address a meeting of southern California Christian evangelists "because the Evangelical community in the United States is a very prominent and crucial component of the United States-Israel relationship. It is a component that has proven vital to Israel’s security and well-being in the course of Israel’s existence over the last six decades.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]In an interview with the Christian Telegraph, Ambassador Oren said that Israel remains sensitive on the subject of Messianics. Proselytizing in public is illegal in Israel, but the prohibition increasingly has been violated.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]"I have no statistics on the size of the Messianic community, but I think certainly that the State of Israel wants the Jewish people to remain Jewish and greatly values its relationship with the evangelical community and other Christian communities in the world,” he said.[/FONT]
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“[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]But the State of Israel, because of our particular history, we are very sensitive to the notion of proselytizing -- very sensitive.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Oren diplomatically ducked taking a firm position on several political positions. Asked if he thinks Christian Evangelists should support building for Jews in Judea and Samaria, Oren replied, “Evangelical Christians have every right to express their political beliefs as do American Jews."

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But it is not the strong delusion because it has no bearing on whether a person is saved or not believing in that eschatological view.

However, if a person believes the Antichrist man of sin is God - then certainly they have rejected the truth and salvation through Christ Jesus.
That's the strong delusion that God sends by bringing the slain Antichrist back to life - that them who believed his claim to be God in the first place will believe the lie.

In the New Testament, it is the new covenant Jesus made with the 12 disciples representing 12 tribes of Israel at the last supper. But all Israel was not saved, in the early years, just a small percentage. In the last days, God brings Israel back into the land, that all Israel will be saved.

In Isaiah 66, Israel before her pain delivered Jesus. Then for 2000 years has gone through the pain of the diaspora and will go through the pain of the time of the Antichrist. Out of which, Zion will deliver her children; that is, all Israel will be saved. It will happen when she is made a nation again in one day. May 14, 1948.

Isaiah 66:7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
Here's your problem Doug. First...Israel was in no pain when they delivered Christ...THEY WERE STIFFNECKED AND IN UNBELIEF! Stephen told them that and they stoned Him!

Second, God is not saving Israel out of obligation or promise...but by His gracious choice. That's why Jesus told Peter to forgive 70 x 7...which is 490!

Jesus knew after He fulfilled the 70 weeks, He would start His church in Jerusalem. The twelve are the beginning of the remnant!

Also don't jump past Isaiah 65!
 
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All old news. As a matter of fact, about 2000 years old:
"As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance."

4 who are Israelites, to whom belongs the adoption as sons, and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the Law and the temple service and the promises, 5 whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.

15 Yet on your fathers did the Lord set His affection to love them, and He chose their descendants after them, even you above all peoples, as it is this day. 16 So circumcise your heart, and stiffen your neck no longer. 17 For the Lord your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe. 18 He executes justice for the orphan and the widow, and shows His love for the alien by giving him food and clothing. 19 So show your love for the alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt. 20 You shall fear the Lord your God; you shall serve Him and cling to Him, and you shall swear by His name. 21 He is your praise and He is your God, who has done these great and awesome things for you which your eyes have seen. 22 Your fathers went down to Egypt seventy persons in all, and now the Lord your God has made you as numerous as the stars of heaven.



What are you suggesting that we turn a blind eye to the injustices suffered by the Palestinians including Christian Palestinians?
 
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4 who are Israelites, to whom belongs the adoption as sons, and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the Law and the temple service and the promises, 5 whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.



What are you suggesting that we turn a blind eye to the injustices suffered by the Palestinians including Christian Palestinians?

Of coarse not. We, who are called by His name should do as He would do.
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust."
 
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Was above my paygrade all the time, ie, I set the record in our small town, ie, the only one kicked out of school for fighting repeatedly in the 3rd grade. This is 5th grader stuff hence not accountable. ;) However:

Too literal my friend, ie, Rev.1:1, "...to show....he signified.." matches the visions - symbolized.

Rev.11:1, "Up and measure the Sanctuary" The vision of Chapter 10 continues into Rev.11, ie, John does not start anew with "I saw," but proceeds with a narration fo this own participation in a further symbolical act.

Prophesying extends and maintains the Church Lamad. Thus in Chapter 10 we have the little book (Not as in Rom.1:16, but 1:18) John's eating it and prophesying to many people, nations, tongues, kings, ie, miss any?; and now we see him measuring the result (The Sanctuary, the altar, the worshippers -composite my friend), ie, the Church that gets through the Seals and the Trumpets - marking the boundry line between the Church and all those who are without.

Jack putting for a higher paygrade :D

Sorry, double post.

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Of coarse not. We, who are called by His name should do as He would do.
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust."

And you are a Christian Zionist? Meaning you do not believe the Palestinian have human rights even though they have called Palestine their ancestral home for generations upon generations, just to raise a Jewish secular government in order for the majority of the Jews to die and proselyte the remaining remnant to Christ?

That is insane!
 
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Was above my paygrade all the time, ie, I set the record in our small town, ie, the only one kicked out of school for fighting repeatedly in the 3rd grade. This is 5th grader stuff hence not accountable. ;) However:

Too literal my friend, ie, Rev.1:1, "...to show....he signified.." matches the visions - symbolized.

Rev.11:1, "Up and measure the Sanctuary" The vision of Chapter 10 continues into Rev.11, ie, John does not start anew with "I saw," but proceeds with a narration fo this own participation in a further symbolical act.

Prophesying extends and maintains the Church Lamad. Thus in Chapter 10 we have the little book (Not as in Rom.1:16, but 1:18) John's eating it and prophesying to many people, nations, tongues, kings, ie, miss any?; and now we see him measuring the result (The Sanctuary, the altar, the worshippers -composite my friend), ie, the Church that gets through the Seals and the Trumpets - marking the boundry line between the Church and all those who are without.

Jack putting for a higher paygrade :D

Signified...symbolized WRONG!
Notice how this same Greek word was used elsewhere:

Jhn 12:33
This he said, signifying G4591 what death he should die.​
Just literal SPEECH

Jhn 18:32
That the saying of Jesus might be fulfilled, which he spake, signifying G4591 what death he should die.​
just literal SPEECH

Jhn 21:19
This spake he, signifying G4591 by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.​
Just literal SPEECH

Act 11:28
And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and signified G4591 by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.​

Undoubtedly again SPEECH, even if Prophetic speech

Act 25:27
For it seemeth to me unreasonable to send a prisoner, and not withal to signify G4591 the crimes laid against him.​
How about "let it be known?" Was it written down or spoken?

To be sure, SOME of Revelation is symbols but NOT ALL. Does it make sense in the literal sense? Then take it as LITERAL, or you end up with nonsense....exactly what we see a plethora of here on this forum.

Rev 10
5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

This is VERY LITERAL. NO symbolism here at all.

Did John literally "eat" the book while seeing these visions? Why not? I think he did.

11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

WHY take this anyway other than literal when it makes perfect sense in its literal sense? John is told to measure the temple. Why is it hard for you to believe this is literal? The timing here is the midpoint of the week. It is my guess at WHEN this time comes, THEN John will be told to measure the real temple that will exist at that time.

11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days

They are not here now, but they WILL be. They will show up as soon as the man of sin enters Jerusalem just before the midpoint.

Sorry friend, but it is a HUGE mistake to take away the literal sense and make it nonsense.

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And you are a Christian Zionist? Meaning you do not believe the Palestinian have human rights even though they have called Palestine their ancestral home for generations upon generations, just to raise a Jewish secular government in order for the majority of the Jews to die and proselyte the remaining remnant to Christ?

That is insane!

I don't really understand what it is you think is insane. For all readers who THINK there should be a state of Palestine:

WAKE UP! God gave that land to Abraham and his descendants FOREVER. God has never changed His mind.

Next, before Israel became a nation (1948), the land of Israel was a WASTE LAND, not even a million people over the entire land west of the Jordan. Some were Jews, some were Arabs. It was not until Jews began to plant and raise crops that Arabs came for JOBS. In other words, IT WAS NEVER THEIRS! The millions that claim it belongs to them are mostly IMMIGRANTS from other Arab nations.

When David reigns as King (again) Israel will own MUCH MORE than they have now. It belongs to them and one day they will have it. Palestine used to be ISRAEL, and will be again. It is not insane, it is LAW.

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And you are a Christian Zionist?

Am I?

Meaning you do not believe the Palestinian have human rights even though they have called Palestine their ancestral home for generations upon generations, just to raise a Jewish secular government in order for the majority of the Jews to die and proselyte the remaining remnant to Christ?

No. I just don't attempt to direct God to rule over His creation according to my understanding of what should be.

That is insane!

No. That is humility.
 
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I don't really understand what it is you think is insane. For all readers who THINK there should be a state of Palestine:

WAKE UP! God gave that land to Abraham and his descendants FOREVER. God has never changed His mind.

Next, before Israel became a nation (1948), the land of Israel was a WASTE LAND, not even a million people over the entire land west of the Jordan. Some were Jews, some were Arabs. It was not until Jews began to plant and raise crops that Arabs came for JOBS. In other words, IT WAS NEVER THEIRS! The millions that claim it belongs to them are mostly IMMIGRANTS from other Arab nations.

When David reigns as King (again) Israel will own MUCH MORE than they have now. It belongs to them and one day they will have it. Palestine used to be ISRAEL, and will be again. It is not insane, it is LAW.

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I am sick of this bogus Jewish Zionist propaganda! There were as many as 400,000 Arabs in Palestine as early as 1860. In 1919, there were 700,000 Arabs in Palestine. In 1931, for example, the Jewish population was 174,606 against a total of 1,033,314 Arab Palestinians.

Tell Me Again, Who Made The Desert Bloom?

In December 1945 and January 1946, the British Mandate authorities carried out an extensive survey of Palestine, in support of the work of the United Nations Special Committee on Palestine. The results were published in the Survey of Palestine, which has been scanned and made available online by Palestine Remembered; all 1300 pages can be read here.



One of the subjects investigated in the Survey of Palestine is land use; specifically, which crops were Palestine's leading agricultural products at the end of the British Mandate, and whose farms were producing them.

So, according to the Survey of Palestine, who really made the barley fields of Beersheba bloom?


The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 210,000 tons of grain.
About 193,400 tons of that grain were cultivated on Palestinian farms; about 16,600 tons were cultivated on Jewish farms.
See the precise numbers, from a scan of the relevant page of the Survey of Palestine, here.
Who made the melon patches of Jaffa bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 143,000 tons of melons.
About 136,000 tons of those melons were cultivated on Palestinian farms; a little over 7,000 tons were cultivated on Jewish farms.
See the precise numbers, from a scan of the relevant page of the Survey of Palestine, here.
Who made the tobacco fields of Safad bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 1,683 tons of tobacco, on 28,169 dunams of land. Virtually all the land under tobacco cultivation was Palestinian.
Who made the vineyards of Hebron bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 40-50,000 tons of grapes, and between 3-4 million litres of wine. About 86% of the land that produced these products was owned and cultivated by Palestinians.
See a scan of the relevant page of the Survey of Palestine here.
Who made the olive groves of Tulkarm bloom?


The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 79,000 tons of olives.
About 78,000 tons of those olives were cultivated on Palestinian farms; a little over 1,000 tons were cultivated on Jewish farms.
See the precise numbers, from a scan of the relevant page of the Survey of Palestine, here and here.
Who made the banana groves of Tiberias bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 8,000 tons of bananas.
About 60% of the land that produced these bananas was owned and cultivated by Palestinians.
See the relevant page of the Survey of Palestine, here.
Who made the vegetable fields of the coastal plain bloom?

The British government survey found that in 1944-45 Palestine’s farmers produced approximately 245,000 tons of vegetables.
About 189,000 tons of those vegetables were cultivated by Palestinian farmers; about 56,000 tons were cultivated by Jewish farmers.
See the precise numbers, from a scan of the relevant page of the Survey of Palestine, here.
So, on the eve of the partition resolution, in which the United Nations proposed to allocate 55 percent of the land to Jewish Palestine (including those parts that produced most of Palestine's leading crops, with the sole exception of the olive crop), and 45% to Arab Palestine, Palestinian Arabs were producing:
92% of Palestine’s grain
86% of its grapes
99% of its olives
77 % of its vegetables
95% of its melons
more than 99% of its tobacco
and 60% of its bananas.
Palestine's agricultural produce at that time had an annual value of approximately 21.8 million pounds sterling; 17.1 million of which was produced by Arab cultivation, and 4.7 million by Jewish cultivation. (See the exact numbers here).


So, who made the desert bloom? The Palestinians made the desert bloom.

http://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/news/2010/03/palestinians-made-the-desert-bloom.html



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From the early stages of Zionism to the present, Zionists have propagated the myth that the most important land-bridge in human history (Palestine) has been empty and destitute for two thousand year until it was later developed by the Israeli Jews. To facilitate such disinformation, the Zionists adopted the following slogan to entice European Jewry to emigrate to Palestine:
"A land with no people is for a people with no land".
Had the Zionist leadership admitted the existence of an indigenous people, then they would have been obliged to explain how they intended to displace them. To disprove this baseless myth, let's quote Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) who stated as early as 1918 that "Palestine is not an empty country". According to Shabtai Teveth (one of Ben-Gurion's official biographers), Ben-Gurion stated in an article published in 1918 that:
"Palestine is not an empty country . . . on no account must we injure the rights of the inhabitants."
Ben-Gurion often returned to this point, emphasizing that Palestinian Arabs had "the full right" to an independent economic, cultural, and communal life, but not political. (Shabtai Teveth, p. 37-38)



To destroy this baseless myth, click here to view a page that was scanned from a book which was conceived and edited by Ben-Gurion himself, stating that Jews made up 12% of the total Palestinian population as of 1914. It's not only that the majority of the Jews in Palestine were not Zionists (by Ben-Gurion's own admission), but they were also not even citizens of the country since many had recently fled anti-Semitic Tsarist Russia.

As the Ottoman census records show Palestine was widely inhabited in the late 19th and early 20th century, especially in the rural areas where agriculture was the main profession. According to Justine McCarthy (p. 26), an authority on the Ottoman Turks, Palestine's population in the early 19th century was 350,000, and in 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews (including many European Jews from the first and second Aliyah).



So the Jewish population in Palestine as of 1914 were under 8% of the total population, which was much smaller than the Palestinian Christian Arab population. It should be noted that our source, Justine McCarthy was quoted by many Israeli Jewish scholars like Benny Morris and Tom Segev. In that regard, it's worth quoting one of the most ardent Zionists, Israel Zangwill, who stated as early as 1905, that Palestine was twice as thickly populated as the United States. He stated:
"Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews ..... [We] must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us." (Righteous Victims, p. 140 & Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 7-10)
In other words, Palestinians were recognized by the Zionist leadership as "humans" who populated Palestine, however, that was not good enough of a reason to "grant" them the same political rights as Jews, who mostly lived outside of Palestine. Consequently, this ideology was the prelude to the wholesale DISPOSSESSION and ETHNIC CLEANSING of the Palestinian people during the 1948 war.

Soon after the first Zionist Congress in Basel (Switzerland) in 1897, a Zionist delegation was sent to Palestine for a fact finding mission, and to explore the viability of settling Palestine with persecuted European Jews. The delegation replied back from Palestine with a cable that stated:
"The bride is beautiful, but she is married to another man."(Iron Wall, p. 3)
Despite that many Zionists were aware of this happy marriage as early as 1897, they have deliberately chosen to terminate this relationship since they think that Jewish rights are more important than Palestinian rights. The forcible divorce of Palestine from its indigenous people was eloquently articulated by Ze'ev Jabotinsky, the founder of the Israeli political Right, in 1926 who explained that:
" ... the tragedy lies in the fact the there is a collision here between two truths .... but our justice is greater. The Arab is culturally backward, but his instinctive patriotism is just as pure and noble as our own; it cannot be bought, it can only be curbed ... force majeure."(Righteous Victims, p. 108)
 
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I don't really understand what it is you think is insane. For all readers who THINK there should be a state of Palestine:

WAKE UP! God gave that land to Abraham and his descendants FOREVER. God has never changed His mind.

Next, before Israel became a nation (1948), the land of Israel was a WASTE LAND, not even a million people over the entire land west of the Jordan. Some were Jews, some were Arabs. It was not until Jews began to plant and raise crops that Arabs came for JOBS. In other words, IT WAS NEVER THEIRS! The millions that claim it belongs to them are mostly IMMIGRANTS from other Arab nations.

When David reigns as King (again) Israel will own MUCH MORE than they have now. It belongs to them and one day they will have it. Palestine used to be ISRAEL, and will be again. It is not insane, it is LAW.

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Yes. It is God's land, and He has given the Title Deed to the seed of Jacob, forever, and even though He scattered them for not knowing their Messiah in His times, He is bringing them back to reveal Himself to Them and cleanse His people and establish Israel as the Capital City of the world, for the Millennial reign, and the borders God promised to them forever go all the way over to the Euphrates and to the Mediterranean Sea and up into Labanon and over to the Nile River and down into the Arabian Peninsula.




Soon and very soon, the Church is removed form the midst of the earth, and through many troubles, God will bring Israel back to Himself and they will know their Messiah. Those who try to divide His land and His city will know His wrath.
First on the list of destroyed peoples around Israel who come against Israel to seek to make her cease from being a nation are listed in Psalm 83.


Psalm 83
Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:
10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.
11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:
12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.
13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.
14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O Lord.
17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:
18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is YHWH , art the most high over all the earth.
 
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I am sick of this bogus Jewish Zionist propaganda!

Tell Me Again, Who Made The Desert Bloom?

God!

92% of Palestine’s grain
86% of its grapes
99% of its olives
77 % of its vegetables
95% of its melons
more than 99% of its tobacco
and 60% of its bananas.



So, who made the desert bloom?

God!
"Who has preceded Me, that I should pay him? Everything under heaven is Mine."
The grain is the Lords, the melons are the Lords, the tobacco is the Lords, the grapes are the Lords, the wine is the Lords, the olives are the Lords, the bananas are the Lords, the vegetables are the Lords.

 
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