medical students boycotting lectures on evolution

46AND2 said:

What's priceless is that you can't show me how I'm wrong about anything I have said concerning belief. You just make these wild claims that I just can't understand your higher meaning...despite the fact that I was part of your secret club for the first 30 years of my life.

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If one truely believes in the truth, The Holy Bible is a beautiful book. Yes, liars against doubters, Im your enemy. I have already won.

TLK Valentine said:

I'll discuss scripture whenever it's relevant -- on the topic of moving a mountain, it's not. Use the dynamite.

Similarly, on the OP, scripture is utterly irrelevant.

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Scripture. Scripture is only rejected by those that refuse truth. So we have this clear, truth is all, the seen and unseen. The truth is, with faith, a mountain can be moved. Some rejoice in the fact with ease and some struggle, though with the truth itslef, all things are possible.

TLK Valentine said:

Looks like we can just leave you to argue with yourself at this point...

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Saying that one is for truth and rejecting scripture is like professing that one is for truth and for lies. It contradicts itself.

TLK Valentine said:

Indeed -- dynamite is only one of quite literally a million useful things on which the writers of scripture didn't know about.

meanwhile, you keep praying for the mountain to move -- people engaged in useful endeavors will actually move it.

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If a mountain moves and an unbeliever isn't around to see, does it move?

razeontherock said:

Because that's not what I said, or meant, and I don't see how anybody could honestly mistake that.

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One of the rules I've learned as a writer and editor: if a bunch a people misread what you've written, there's no point in complaining about your readers. Just write it more clearly.

Orogeny said:

It appears that my 'comrades' are correct: the bible does not mention dynamite.

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It does in fact. One has to be truthful in order for it to appear though. The Creator of all created all.

CabVet said:

Spiritual power = the Bible predicting dynamite! That is the most "creative" interpretation of the Bible I have ever read!

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Maybe you could quote it to give the believers a victory laugh.

someguy14 said:

Knowledge can be one thing, but the truth is eternal. In order to understand the Holy Bible, one must truely believe in it.

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Where did I read this before?...
Oh, that's right:
Baghavad Gita (Just replace the words "Holy Bible" with "Baghavad Gita" and you're good to go)

How do you know that you need to truly believe in the bible in order to understand it?

Blackwater Babe said:

Baloney.

I defy you to find a single claim made by "evolutionists" not supported by evidence?

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The Creator created all.

As insignificant as one may accuse it's intelligence, it defeats the heaviest of doubters as well as the lesser. Claiming that all exist's without the One that created it, fails the truth itself.

Elendur said:

Where did I read this before?...
Oh, that's right:
Baghavad Gita (Just replace the words "Holy Bible" with "Baghavad Gita" and you're good to go)

How do you know that you need to truly believe in the bible in order to understand it?

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One that claims to be truthful and rejects truth itself, contridicts themself.

someguy14 said:

One that claims to be truthful and rejects truth itself, contridicts themself.

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You didn't answer my question.
How do you know that you need to truly believe in the bible in order to understand it?

Jamin4422 said:

Did someone say that? The Bible makes LOTS of predictions. BUT then so does Science. In fact Science ONLY has value WHEN they make accurate predictions. For example Noble wanted to stablize exposives to prevent accidents that were going to happen in the future.

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Finding truths is good, rejecting the Creator is a cult.

Elendur said:

You didn't answer my question.
How do you know that you need to truly believe in the bible in order to understand it?

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Rejecting facts doesn't make them less so.

someguy14 said:

Rejecting facts doesn't make them less so.

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You still didn't answer my question.
Third try:
How do you know that you need to truly believe in the bible in order to understand it?

Elendur said:

You still didn't answer my question.
Third try:
How do you know that you need to truly believe in the bible in order to understand it?

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lol, do you get a third try? Let me consider....

someguy14 said:

lol, do you get a third try? Let me consider....

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You're obviously a troll who won't post anything of substance. Feel free to provide evidence of the opposite by answering my question.

someguy14 said:

Knowledge can be one thing, but the truth is eternal. In order to understand the Holy Bible, one must truely believe in it.

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Wiccan_Child said:

Circular reasoning at its best.

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Elendur said:

You didn't answer my question.
How do you know that you need to truly believe in the bible in order to understand it?

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I wouldn't put it that way. And the classic example of why not, is the phenomenon of a PFC (professing former christian) What if they actually were a believer, and are no longer? I don't think any and every understanding they ever had magically "poofs" away. (Neither have I found one with a good understanding of Scripture, which suggests to me this is connected to their apostasy. I would like to know more about that but I digress)

Rather, Faith is something that grows, like anything else that is alive. I have encountered people of great Faith, who had almost not read Scripture at all. Of course, when such a person begins taking in the Word of God, their Faith grows rapidly. I have also encountered people who have read a TON of Scripture and a tiny minority even demonstrate a good understanding of much of it, and had very little Faith.

So I wouldn't make the statement Someguy did that I'm quoting here. before I try to paraphrase it, maybe he would like to attempt a more accurate improvement of what he was trying to convey?

someguy14 said:

Jesus walked on water and rose the dead and healed the sick and withered the fig tree. How many can still doubt that a rock, that is creation, cannot be moved. A rock can be moved in the glory of the Creator.

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Way to avoid what I said.

I am asking for a verifiable instance of someone praying for a mountain to move and then that mountain moved due ONLY to the fact that they prayed. You give me unverifiable stories of a guy doing something completely different.

Not what I asked for at all.

someguy14 said:

That's the beauty of the Creator, the Creator created all of it.

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Geez, more slogans? I thought I spoke to you about this...