medical students boycotting lectures on evolution

[Wiccan_Child]

Sorry, where we only read "power" in English, God is talking about dynamite. And this was recorded well before 1867. (Before 70, but who's counting?) Those that are too dull to hear, will miss the point as well as be unable to put it in context in this thread.

So you claim, yet where's your evidence that God was specifically referring to a cylinder soaked in nitroglycerin?

 

[sfs]

Sorry, where we only read "power" in English, God is talking about dynamite.

Equally sorry, but this is gibbering nonsense.

 

[Tiberius]

Anyway there are several verses that use the word dunamis, from which we obviously got dynamite. This word is not used as much, so when and where it is used becomes significant. Here's 4 places, just to get you started:

Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Acts 3:12 And when Peter saw [it], he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?

Acts 4:7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?

Acts 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all."

For my benefit, could you go through each of those passages and highlight exactly which word refers to dynamite?

 

[sfs]

Anyway there are several verses that use the word dunamis, from which we obviously got dynamite. This word is not used as much, so when and where it is used becomes significant.

Not used as much as what? δυναμις is used 119 times in the NT.

Here's 4 places, just to get you started:

Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Acts 3:12 And when Peter saw [it], he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?

Acts 4:7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?

Acts 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all."

Here are two more:

I Cor 14:11 If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and the speaker is a foreigner to me.
("meaning")

Revelation 18:3
For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.
("excessive")

Just one more example of your comrades being incapable of discussing the Word of God in any relevant fashion, and would've been much better off sticking to medical students boycotting lectures on ToE, or something

I still don't know what your discussion of this word was getting at. δυναμις certainly doesn't mean "dynamite" in the NT.

 

[razeontherock]

So you claim, yet where's your evidence that God was specifically referring to a cylinder soaked in nitroglycerin?

Don't know how you can read that into what I said. Extra bonus points for creativity though

 

[razeontherock]

For my benefit, could you go through each of those passages and highlight exactly which word refers to dynamite?

Put 2 and 2 together, eh? The Greek word is what? Sounds like what? The point God is making is what?

Leave your anachronisms at the door and make a genuine effort to see what's actually being said?

 

[Tiberius]

Put 2 and 2 together, eh? The Greek word is what? Sounds like what? The point God is making is what?

Leave your anachronisms at the door and make a genuine effort to see what's actually being said?

Is this the extent of your argument? The fact that the greek word kinda sounds like a modern English word?

That's pretty weak.

 

[sfs]

Don't know how you can read that into what I said.

Because you wrote that God was talking about dynamite when the word δυναμις is used in the NT, and the word "dynamite" refers to an explosive based on nitroglycerin. So what you wrote means that God was talking about nitroglycerin in the NT. Perhaps you meant something else, but it seems a little silly to expect people to guess what you mean if that's the case. Why don't you just say what you mean?

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Because you wrote that God was talking about dynamite when the word δυναμις is used in the NT, and the word "dynamite" refers to an explosive based on nitroglycerin. So what you wrote means that God was talking about nitroglycerin in the NT. Perhaps you meant something else, but it seems a little silly to expect people to guess what you mean if that's the case. Why don't you just say what you mean?

Because if they make clear, unambiguous statements, they open themselves up to the possibility of being shown wrong. If you flabble around and never say anything definitive, you can semanticly tapdance your way out of anything, and claim to be correct.

E.g. evolution and "kinds"

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Don't know how you can read that into what I said.

From you: "Sorry, where we only read "power" in English, God is talking about dynamite."

You said the Bible referred to dynamite. Dynamite is an explosive device made from a cylinder of absorbent material (sawdust, etc) soaked in nitroglycerin.

If, as you claim, the Bible refers to dynamite, where's your evidence?

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Because if they make clear, unambiguous statements, they open themselves up to the possibility of being shown wrong. If you flabble around and never say anything definitive, you can semanticly tapdance your way out of anything, and claim to be correct.

E.g. evolution and "kinds"

Watch this space for forthcomming arguments about how dynamite doesn't mean dynamite

 

[Jamin4422]

they open themselves up to the possibility of being shown wrong.

That is what happens with the evos on here. Far to often they just blindly attack people. But they will not try to show any evidence where they can be shown to be wrong. It is one thing to tell people they are wrong and it is another to prove it. Far to often they are not able to produce any evidence or proof to back up their claims.

 

[46AND2]

That is what happens with the evos on here. Far to often they just blindly attack people. But they will not try to show any evidence where they can be shown to be wrong. It is one thing to tell people they are wrong and it is another to prove it. Far to often they are not able to produce any evidence or proof to back up their claims.

I'll give you a perfect example. When people claimed that you could just add up the dates in the Biblical genealogy to get to a 4004BC creation date.

When it was shown that you could not do this, because there were ages which were not included in some of the genealogy, they changed their stance and said something along the lines of "well, OF COURSE you have to take in some secular history accounts into consideration."

While it is true that they did not specifically say to add up the dates from the Bible ONLY, it was not initially claimed that the calculation included other sources, either.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

That is what happens with the evos on here. Far to often they just blindly attack people. But they will not try to show any evidence where they can be shown to be wrong. It is one thing to tell people they are wrong and it is another to prove it. Far to often they are not able to produce any evidence or proof to back up their claims.

Baloney.

I defy you to find a single claim made by "evolutionists" not supported by evidence?

 

[Jamin4422]

You said the Bible referred to dynamite. Dynamite is an explosive device made from a cylinder of absorbent material (sawdust, etc) soaked in nitroglycerin.

If, as you claim, the Bible refers to dynamite, where's your evidence?

Alfred Nobel got the word "dynamite" from the Greek word "dynamis" the same word that is translated power in the New Testament of the Bible.

 

[CabVet]

Alfred Nobel got the word "dynamite" from the Greek word "dynamis" the same word that is translated power in the New Testament of the Bible.

And that in no way means that the Bible predicted the discovery or use of dynamite.

 

[Jamin4422]

Baloney.

I defy you to find a single claim made by "evolutionists" not supported by evidence?

Thank you very much for proving my point first time to bat. NOW would you like to make more empty claims or would YOU like to present some evidence to back up what your saying?

 

[Jamin4422]

And that in no way means that the Bible predicted the discovery or use of dynamite.

Did someone say that? The Bible makes LOTS of predictions. BUT then so does Science. In fact Science ONLY has value WHEN they make accurate predictions. For example Noble wanted to stablize exposives to prevent accidents that were going to happen in the future.

 

[Jamin4422]

I'll give you a perfect example. When people claimed that you could just add up the dates in the Biblical genealogy to get to a 4004BC creation date.

A creation date for WHAT? I said Adam was born on 4004BC. Bishop Ussher did the math on that and it is has universal acceptance. This is NOT the board for unconventional theology. I AM NOT going to waste my time on a point that has universal acceptance. I would suggest you go there if you want to discuss revisionism or any other unconventional theology.

 

[Loudmouth]

In that last post you wrote, where your guilty of what you accuse me of. Projection is a very simple and easy to understand concept. It really should be no problem for you. Frauds Daughter Anne was the one that mostly takes credit for it although she just polished up what her dad started.

Baloney.

Your post made claims about Adam and Eve for which you have ZERO evidence. Your claims are no different than someone pointing to a tree stump in Michigan and claiming that Paul Bunyan chopped it down simply because the tree stump exists. That is the type of baloney you keep pushing. I am calling you on it.