Friends vs Family

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Ok this might come off as a vent but I think its kinda of interesting. I haven't posted lately seems like things are starting to pick back up here. But I saw a friend downtown while I was leaving a meeting. He asked me "what was going? Where had I been? I've gotten off facebook and twitter, and I'm always at my home or out with my family." This isn't the first time I've heard this from one of my friends and it make me feel like I neglect them but then I don't feel to bad. When I was broke and didn't have a dollar and I couldn't finish my undergrad they were the ones that made fun of how bad the clothes I had on were, wouldn't let me borrow 5.00 to go to an interview, the days I didn't eat they would eat in my face. The only person that was in my corner was my wife and my grandpa.

Now my grandfather has dymensia(or however its spelled I know someone is going to go that deep and spell it correctly for me not that serious) and I have a son. My wife is still beautiful and really my best friend and has been since my freshmen year in college.

So it's not like I don't have time to hang out with my so called friends its more so I don't feel like. Now don't get me wrong I have nothing but love for my boys but when its all said and done I'd rather have fun with my family, or get a babysitter and go on a date with my wife. When I do go out with them I make excuses just so that I can go home or take my grandpa for a drive.

My friends say I'm whipped but most of them have kids I wonder why they don't feel the same?


Personal experience welcomed, thoughts and comments this is kinda an open discussion on the topic
 

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I only have a second, so I'll just say those ain't friends. If my boys ever treated me like that, I'd stop hanging out with them outright.

I was fortunate to have had some very good friends in college that backed me up in some tough times (and vice versa) and we still keep up today. Had lunch with one the other day.
 
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When you have very small children (especially infant/toddler age) it can be hard to work around everyone's schedules to have a happy meeting place with friends that accommodates everyone's immediate needs/wants.

We have friends in the next town over with kids between our children's age, and one younger than my youngest. Their schedule is so vastly different from ours, and both of them work - we see each other maybe a couple times a yr, though we talk on the phone.

As far as dementia goes, it is an awful, horrid, life-sucking disease. My grandmother has it and Alzheimer's together. :( I have not seen her in a long time, and she's declining fast. She can't remember anyone's names or who we are, but she knows we are related.

It sounds like you're juggling a lot... and that these boys weren't really nice to begin with.:sorry:
 
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They don't sound like good friends....I would stop hanging out with them. I don't think it's wrong to have friends outside your family and even to spend appropriate time with them; but friends that are going to build you up- not pull your down or make you feel guilty for being a good husband , father , and grandson.
 
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You have a responsibility with your family not to friends. And these don't sound like good friends When you were down they weren't there so what can they expect from that. Also they sound like trouble and some psych game they playing when saying you're whipped. Now if you were running around while she completely runs over you then you're whipped. If not, you have to focus else where than being with the boys.
 
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Just in my experience with men and women, I have found that women (who like their husbands) seem to seek out 'girl time' with other women far more often than men (who like their wives) seek to hang out with the boys.

This is completely anecdotal, of course, but it seems like men are able to acquire more of their 'social needs' from their wives than women are from their husbands.

And it depends on actually still liking your wife, which it seems you do. ;)



Ok, go ahead and shoot holes in my theory now. :)
 
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Just in my experience with men and women, I have found that women (who like their husbands) seem to seek out 'girl time' with other women far more often than men (who like their wives) seek to hang out with the boys.

This is completely anecdotal, of course, but it seems like men are able to acquire more of their 'social needs' from their wives than women are from their husbands.

And it depends on actually still liking your wife, which it seems you do. ;)



Ok, go ahead and shoot holes in my theory now. :)

Naw I'm not going to do that I actually think you are for the most part correct. In a society where divorce is prevalant and the individual is celebrated more so then the "village" you would be right.

The thing is my wife her mother and father dated from 10th grade till the got married in Germany while he was in the army. My mother worked on wall street till I was born then she was my fathers business manager at his practice. They worked hard together and were constantly around each other. My parents didn't really talk to family like that my wife's family they live around the corner from each other. But they still did everything together I think my wife's mother loves to talk now because she has no one to talk to, he passed.

I think the way we treat our friends is more so learned behavior. Also since 2005 we have been each others best friend and at times only friend. Add that to seeing each other everyday since 05 and we are clowns to be around its always fun. I go home to hang out with my wife and have fun with my best friend. She comes home to the samething. We have friends that stop by visit but I'm happy when they go home my wife more then me.


She probably does more then me because she will hang out with my grandma, nails hair ect because she wants some of her wisdom as an older Christian woman. But that's probably still more then me.

I do value my alone time to but I get that on the road at the barbershop or on an errand run. But I never yearn to be friends with anyone. She mostly likes family time vs alone time(hates being alone) but likes a little family time(extended).
 
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I agree with what has already been said. They don't really sound like friends I would want to have. My husband feels as you do, he would rather be at home with me and our three young children than be anywhere else. My brother often teases him that he is whipped and that I don't allow him to go out. (A whole other story - in short, brothers married, second baby due any day and he still behaves as a single man, never home, goes out drinking 3-4 time a week.) Anyhow, my husband says all the time, he just doesn't understand why some guys just don't grow up when they have a family. He always says that a man should be home taking care of his family and spending time with them, however, we have seen many relationships where the husband and wife do their own thing. My husband and I have been best friends for almost 12 years and we love spending time together. Now, don't get me wrong, we enjoy hanging with friends, but only once in a while, really. When we do get together with friends, it's always together.

I think what you are doing is very honorable and most women look for that in a husband. I know I did and I feel like the luckiest woman in the world and I bet your wife and son feel the same. :)
 
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I find it so sad when a man's friends rib him for being "whipped" simply because he's considerate of his wife. For the record, none of my husband's friends do, and he'll even hold my purse for me while shopping, and everything. I think it may make a difference that I have physical disabilities and use a cane to walk, so effectively I'm short an available hand to carry my own purse. Still, a man shouldn't have to justify that. Despite the lyrics of that Brad Paisley song that I actually find offensive, holding a purse for his wife does not make a man less manly. In fact, it does a lot to elevate his masculinity in my mind, because he is being the caretaker and protector. In my opinion, those men who don't treat their wives as well, because they're afraid their friends are going to call them "neutered" and "feminized" like that song says, THEY are the wimps. You go right on being brave enough to be good to your wife and your grandpa no matter what they say.
 
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A man who prefers his wife and family to 'hanging out' with friends is a man of integrity. God smiles upon this and will bless this. Women truly and deeply desire this.

Kudos to you!

I wish that were true, but I can say that my wife doesn't desire this.

I really haven't had much in the way of friends since my early twenties. When I moved away I lost contact with most of my childhood friends and didn't make anymore. I was focused on my girlfriend and our children (wasn't a Christian at that time). When that relationship ended, I moved to Florida and nine months later met my wife. I still didn't have any friends when we met.

She tells me quite a bit that she wishes that I had friends. Wishes that I would meet some friends and go hang out, but for me finding friends to hang out with aren't a priority. I am perfectly fine not hanging out anymore and only want to hang out with my wife and our baby who will be born in November.

She doesn't seem to understand that that I am fine with not having to hang out with friends. The times that her friends invite us both over to do something, such as watching PPV Wrestling a couple weeks ago is good enough for me to fill my "hang out tank" to the brim.
 
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Just in my experience with men and women, I have found that women (who like their husbands) seem to seek out 'girl time' with other women far more often than men (who like their wives) seek to hang out with the boys.

This is completely anecdotal, of course, but it seems like men are able to acquire more of their 'social needs' from their wives than women are from their husbands.

And it depends on actually still liking your wife, which it seems you do. ;)



Ok, go ahead and shoot holes in my theory now. :)

I agree with you and I think my reply before this one will show that your theory is accurate, at least in regards to me.
 
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Based on what you said in the opening post, it sounds like your friends really stink. You're not whipped, you care for the ones who care most about YOU: your wife, your child, and your grandfather. I think since you are already have the gut reaction that you just don't want to hang out with these people, you should continue-- they didn't care to help you out in the past and they clearly do not have the same goals as you do (if they're talking badly about how you treat your family), so forget them.

I had a college roommate who was I friends with and we did everything together-- mainly because I was too shy to try making other friends, but I did enjoy spending time with her. I finally broke off the friendship after she moved out because I found out a few things:
1) She was very jealous of me-- for the wrong reasons
2) She was telling her "friends" about how my boyfriends abused me (when I never told her it was okay to open her mouth)
3) She was happy to back-stab me at any chance and preferred to boss me around than really encourage me to do well in life.

I dumped her and I never looked back-- I have a wonderful husband, I love my family, I have a few friends with the people I work with, and I still have my best friend from 4th grade. I'm satisfied and have no need to go hang out with other people.
 
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Based on what you said in the opening post, it sounds like your friends really stink. You're not whipped, you care for the ones who care most about YOU: your wife, your child, and your grandfather. I think since you are already have the gut reaction that you just don't want to hang out with these people, you should continue-- they didn't care to help you out in the past and they clearly do not have the same goals as you do (if they're talking badly about how you treat your family), so forget them.

But not it's not like they aren't my friends. I mean we have come up together I grew up with them, we went to school all the way to highschool together. There have been situations were my boys have really held me down all the way, there have been times that they haven't. They are just people with their own selfish fleshy faults just like me and everyone else. So I forgive them they are still my boys they can stop by grab a plate if their hungry. But I've been like this since high school, I am what I would like to call a popular lone wolf. Growing up I really liked walking by myself, going to park playing ball and not knowing no one, going downtown to walk around and et out of the bronx for a minute. But everyone knew me but I always valued my time more so then hang out time.

I had a college roommate who was I friends with and we did everything together-- mainly because I was too shy to try making other friends, but I did enjoy spending time with her. I finally broke off the friendship after she moved out because I found out a few things:
1) She was very jealous of me-- for the wrong reasons
2) She was telling her "friends" about how my boyfriends abused me (when I never told her it was okay to open her mouth)
3) She was happy to back-stab me at any chance and preferred to boss me around than really encourage me to do well in life.

I dumped her and I never looked back-- I have a wonderful husband, I love my family, I have a few friends with the people I work with, and I still have my best friend from 4th grade. I'm satisfied and have no need to go hang out with other people.
For me I'm satisfied with my wife and son. I really don't need friends, and its crazy I guess to most people I encounter.

You know how everyone talks about peer pressure I never really felt that. It was more so hmmmmm I wonder then I would do.
 
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My husband appreciates time to hang out with his friends, or to work in his workshop. We have friends who have one night a week in which they do their own thing (we all don't have children yet, though I am pregnant - it will be interesting to see what I say a year from now, lol). My husband has expressed appreciation that our marriage doesn't work like that, as he does see it as being "whipped." But to be honest, he only spends one night a week without me on any given week as it is. For the most part, he chooses to be home with me, and if he wants to hang out with friends, he invites them over to our house or asks if I want to come with him to their house.

I don't think he's any less of a husband for wanting time with out me. But on the other hand, I don't think you're any less of a man for just wanting to be with your wife. Different marriages work differently.
 
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For me I'm satisfied with my wife and son. I really don't need friends, and its crazy I guess to most people I encounter.

You know how everyone talks about peer pressure I never really felt that. It was more so hmmmmm I wonder then I would do.

Then what purpose would having these friends in your life have? I'm not saying that we have friends to serve our needs~ however, for me at least, I've chosen to have one or two friends I'm very close to and talk to daily and then a few that are friends but I don't necessarily hang out with often. Anybody who has brought any strife into my life is gone~ I don't need them because I have enough to handle (and I'm a happier person because of it).

Just sayin'... two cents into the bucket.
 
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